Got Hacked, Recovered Account - What Now?

jack99

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2011

P/W

Hey all,


My account recently got hacked. After going through the steps with NCSoft to recover it, I logged in only to find all my gold, ectos, armor sets, weapons, and miscellaneous items gone and missing. I'm e-mailing NCSoft to see whether they can do anything to help me in light of the fact that their infamously weak security is what led to the hacking.


Has anyone had this happen to them? Did NCSoft do anything about their losses?




Signed,

A disgruntled player

Calista Blackblood

Calista Blackblood

Permanently Banned

Join Date: Oct 2007

Northern Ireland

Nowhere To Run Nowhere To [Hide]

N/

Anet's line from day one has been "we cannot return stolen items"

Sagittario

Sagittario

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2010

Czech Republic

The Dragonfly Effect [Phi]

Rt/

Be glad you have all your toons, titles and archievments.
Possiblities:
1) Take a break, quit GW for a few months and start over
2) Start over now, farm, farm, SC, farm,....
3) Quit GW (perma)

There's no way of restoring items theft.

Way2dead

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2010

Me/

^ that

same happened to me, nothing to do about it, it would be very easy to abuse if they would do something like giving back items.

If you really think the security is that weak comparing to other games, i would say make a suggestion. You can always try.

Bristlebane

Bristlebane

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

Mo/

Sorry to hear, all you can do is just rebuild your characters again. If you got a SoS rit you could go feather farm in Jaya Bluffs (you can even do that completely naked), sell the feathers and runes and build up a character for farming, say UW farming. Then UW farm some ectos until you can get your characters all the armor/weapons again they need.

wilebill

wilebill

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mt Vernon, Ohio

Band of the Hawk

W/Mo

Actually jack99, this is unacceptable. ANet and NCSoft have had years to work on this issue. And now all they can do is say, "tough luck, all your stuff is gone, be grateful you have your account back."

This is absurd. Now if you had been playing WoW and had your account hacked, they would have returned all your stuff, all your gold, all your weapons and armor. And I know in some cases they have sent out one of their hardware security keys for free to make sure it does not happen in the future.

Unless NCSoft and ANet work to improve account security, it will be a game breaker for me on Guild Wars 2. No use buying into a game where the risk of getting hacked back to the stone age is always there.

NCSoft and ANet take note. You can do better than you are doing with hacked accounts. Making the players take the brunt of the hack attack is no longer acceptable. You are lagging behind industry standards, not setting them.

Jk Arrow

Jk Arrow

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2008

WI

Dark Phoenix Risin [DPR]

R/

^ Agreed.

While it might seem like more work on the front end to program account rollback or item tracking, it would solve a lot of the back end issues that everyone complains about.

Account rollback needs to be in GW2.

Xsiriss

Xsiriss

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2008

This is indeed something they need to heavily,heavily improve for GW2. With them fully utilising a cash shop model for things like transmutations stones and such, you'd basically be wasting your money. It's partly Anets fault to begin with and entirely their fault if you get hacked without revealing your details.

powerslave

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Calgary Canada

I was in a similar situation as the OP. My account got hacked and I contacted Anet and they recovered it. All my gold and my valuables were gone. It was very frustrating, and it pretty much killed the game for me. Right now I only log on rarely to play some PvP while waiting for Diablo 3 or Guild Wars 2 to come out.

Lithril Ashwalker

Lithril Ashwalker

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2008

Alabama

A/

thats RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed up TBH- friend got hacked in gw and sent loads of tickets , lost q8s and everything, they ROLLED back his account and he got everything back, so why not other players...this is BULL

SpecialOpsNox

SpecialOpsNox

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2011

Lisbon, Portugal

Shinigami Demons [kami]

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by wilebill View Post
Actually jack99, this is unacceptable. ANet and NCSoft have had years to work on this issue. And now all they can do is say, "tough luck, all your stuff is gone, be grateful you have your account back."

This is absurd. Now if you had been playing WoW and had your account hacked, they would have returned all your stuff, all your gold, all your weapons and armor. And I know in some cases they have sent out one of their hardware security keys for free to make sure it does not happen in the future.

Unless NCSoft and ANet work to improve account security, it will be a game breaker for me on Guild Wars 2. No use buying into a game where the risk of getting hacked back to the stone age is always there.

NCSoft and ANet take note. You can do better than you are doing with hacked accounts. Making the players take the brunt of the hack attack is no longer acceptable. You are lagging behind industry standards, not setting them.
I don't think giving away gold, items and free accounts is the right choice, would be sooo easy to make it on purpose. Next time avoid using the same email address and passwords on forums or other registrable places.
Although I am sorry for what it happen to you, donno if you have friends in game, maybe they could help you starting over? good luck

Darcy

Darcy

Never Too Old

Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

Order of First

W/R

@Lithril Ashwalker - your 'friend' is pulling your leg. ArenaNet set up their game so that you CANNOT create things on the live servers. This was to prevent GM favoritism which was prevalent in MMOs of the time. They also do not have any way to rollback an account only the whole server. What they have done in the past is, if the thief had not sold off the items, to RETURN the items. This, of course, was usually when an account was stolen for use and not for stripping by the gold sellers.

@OP - I am sincerely sorry for your loss. This happened to my son and, unhappily, he didn't even bother to reclaim the account. He was too angry about the hoops he would have to jump through to get the account back, when the thief simply had to ask for a password change. He is now playing Rift.

jack99

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2011

P/W

Well, there goes one less reason to go with GW2.


No account rollback, and no stated commitment to instituting it. I completely understand the potential for abuse as the rationale behind not introducing it, but heck, if Blizzard has it available on WoW, why can't Arenanet? Arenanet locked my account down when they through their own means detected that my account was being accessed by an unauthorized user. If they knew that an unauthorized access was taking place without my permission, then they must know beyond a reasonable doubt that an actual theft, and not a planned transfer of virtual items, was taking place. Keeping in mind their current means for tracking unauthorized access, they shouldn't have too much trouble doing account rollbacks. But they choose not to, and they're daring enough to introduce a cash for items scheme in GW2. Not a smart move at all.


The EULA no doubt binds us in terms of what we can and cannot do with our accounts. But it doesn't change the fact that we're all still customers. This "Sorry, but tough titties" approach is a huge turnoff from the point of view of a customer who had earlier planned on jumping aboard the GW2 franchise, which brings me to my last point.


I have to say I'm surprised at the general attitude here. Most don't seem to mind that Arenanet doesn't care about the amount of time we put into playing this game, only to have many hours of our lives virtually erased by some thief who took advantage of Arenanet's weak account security (Google articles on waves of Guild Wars account hackings that have happened within the past 3 years alone). And yes, before someone interjects with a red herring that Arenanet is a corporation and not a charity group, please do keep in mind that in a crowded world of MMOs, it's customer satisfaction combined with the power of the internet hivemind that can determine how large a game's fanbase can become.


If it is the case that they're not doing account rollbacks but still encouraging real money to be spent on items, I'm afraid I can't recommend this game to my friends who may use money once in a while to purchase items in game. It's just not worth the risk.


Well, that's that. I think I may give Diablo 3 a more serious look. And Anet, please remember that in a tight race between D3 and GW2, it's the finer points such as this one which can push someone over the fence. I've gotten over my anger over this incident, but I'm skiddish of investing my time and money in a game that could any day turn into a vortex for it all.

gremlin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

GWAR

Me/Mo

would like them to set the game up to make it much harder for hacking to happen.

I access the game from my computer at one location in one country I have used the same isp for years.

It would be good if such playing trends were treated like online purchases where a person always uses their credit card at a fairly standard rate then suddenly someone in another country starts accessing the card for very unusual purchases,Red flags go up and the card is blocked.

Credit card company usually takes the hit and money is returned, so please anet if you get a password change request from somewhere very suspicious talk to me first before assuming all is well.

Sierraa

Sierraa

Supastar~ ???

Join Date: May 2006

USA [GMT -7]

Sierraas Asian Harem [love]

Me/

Start over or quit. Those are really your only options and you should decide if it's worth it to you to go on. My advice is ask to borrow money from a guildie/friend and start doing zquests and sell the coins. It's still ultimately up to you and if you've already gotten your HoM achievements they'll still be there even if your armor was deleted.

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