Idea for AFK Legendary Survivor

pvp joda

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

it still works did it a day ago

Hine

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2011

Me/Rt

Hi people,

I haven't tried it yet but I'd like some info.

If it is possible to do it in 4.5h, does that mean that there's a way to do it faster while not being afk ? (in any area I mean)

pvp joda

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

fastest way would be too use cons... then vaettir, then afk i would guess

tempest thyme

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2011

Australia

YUM

hmm well it is me then, my connection does weird stuff. i did notice that the LB did not display on all heros, and other things, i was missing team chat sometimes with others so i din't see text (have had screen shots mailed to me to prove someone was actually answering lol)
got Survivor done anyway, it was just a matter of the old fashioned careful way.

kipni

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2010

W/A

Can someone post the non-merc build here, video is to blurry to see the build, and can someone draw a drawing in paint (or some other drawing program) with the correct position of every hero?

Hine

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2011

Me/Rt

Doubt it still works with the new update

pvp joda

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

why shouldn't it??? too lazy atm to try it out but it should still be easy

kipni

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2010

W/A

I tried this but after i closed the 4th portal (so still the last left), i place myself and my heroes on the right place, but nothing spawns... only the three portal wraits are there?

What do i do wrong?

DeathPardon

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2010

ON

Copy

W/

http://www.reddit.com/r/GuildWars/co...ld_wars_i_can/

credits: From The Blackness

kipni

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2010

W/A

I tried this but after i closed the 4th portal (so still the last left), i place myself and my heroes on the right place, but nothing spawns... only the three portal wraits are there? Nothing is stated in the previous post,

What do i do wrong?

kipni

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2010

W/A

Ok, found now the right spot, mobs spawn, but i got wiped even in NM !!!!
what do i do wrong?

Think everything is set up right, i use the life barrier bond, ...
Have a look at my screenie

pvp joda

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

hmmmm don't know what went wrong on your screen but most likely your bip got too much agro and they killed him --> enemies run in your mesmers and the whole party gets bustet

the first thing i would change would be the mesmers change them to kss so you won't need a bip which makes it a lot safer
before the ele patch 2kss would kill em in HM so if you have 3 kss in NM you shouldn't be ever able to fail^^
the SoS isn't realy needed i would trade him vor a ST rit

last of all try the build where you solo tank gives much faster xp

meneer123

meneer123

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

X-Universe [XU]

I used Tlam's method last night, worked perfectly. Was a bit afraid that it might not be so easy to fight your way there, but those keystone mesmers really bring a punch, so I had no problems at all.

broncomania

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/

Thanks, folks. I'm buying the idea and will try after the event weekend (hate lags during the events).

Wonder if this can be done for LB title too in theory? Did anyone tracked the lb pts increase?
Got many characters with LB5 - 7 and thinking about waiting until the double LB pts weekend (think it's around last weekend of March) and take care of 2 titles at the same.

Anyway, thanks again!!

Cheers!!

meneer123

meneer123

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

X-Universe [XU]

You need a blessing to gain lightbringer points, you can't get one inside a mission, only during normal instances. So, no.

broncomania

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/

LOL.. Forgot about blessing to get LB pts.. I'm such a noob =)
Thanks for clarifying.

Hine

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2011

Me/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tlam View Post
I have been improving my team, achieving LS in 4 hours 48 minutes on the last attempt. That time could be improved by using a single damage dealer, and I have an idea for such a hero but doubt it'll work

Anyway, I have written up a team build in my sandbox on gwpvx, hopefully it covers everything and is easier to read than a forum post.

http://www.gwpvx.com/User:Tlam/Sandbox

YouTube
video and screenshot of the /age.

@Plutoman, I tried taking additional leechers on an earlier attempt, its time could be better (using the set up similar to above) -
3 AFKers. Tried this one and died died and died again.

saria neptune

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2008

Greener Pastures [DVDF]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hine
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Tried this one and died died and died again. I know exactly what you mean! I tried Deasu's setup too but still ended up being pooned.

Now, with a bit of tweaking I have fixed it.

Placement and DPS are what your after. Rather than just having two Hero Mesmers next to you for damage, I had 3 and Magrid. Behind them, up on the hill, where Tlam put his 3rd mesmer, I put my Rt healer, she has a spirit of recovery which she pops when the odd derv titan gets through which counters their burning conditions a bit.

Off to the left, where Tlam put everyone but the mesmers in his setup, I have just put the Bonder and Mending healer.

This means that all my heroes are now working in some way, whereas before magrid was just popping EoE and QZ. This has really increased my dps output and seems to be much safer.

Heres a picture of whats going on when its all up and running:

NOTE: Look how many skills I have had to disable so as to get the hero's to focus on what they are doing.

Also I had to change the bonding setup a little bit as I had more front line dps'ers. You can tell from the image whats up on who. I have no bonds up on my Rt, she doesnt seem to catch aggro.

2 more thins to note

1. I did not use a grail of might.
2. I am still using Lightbringer title (which I was not doing before)

I hope that helps people.

*Sorry about the poor pic quality, im running GW off my netbook!

saria neptune

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2008

Greener Pastures [DVDF]

Me/

It seems people are charging 45e a run for this now in the services forum. I cant believe people are paying so much for something they can do themselves.

Nock

Nock

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2012

Knights of Caelo

P/

Yes, a hassle free, half the cost (or more) of Kath hammers, no required skills or anything, professional run of survivor rank 3 for 45e is surprisingly popular. You might think it's too expensive, but 30 people and counting disagree with you.

Nock's Legendary Survival Run

Also, I would like to add that all the money I am making from these runs is going toward buying HoM points for my friends and guildies, I'm not just amassing wealth for no reason or for my own jollies.

Now, on to the relevant stuff. You guys are really over-complicating things. The fact that I can run this with a leech and have no problems with aggro or dps means this can be done safely and reliably, and I only ever use the 2 mesmers as dps. More dps than that and the waves can die TOO fast which will cause the scroll to have a chance of falling off. I also use half the buffs that you guys have listed. I do use grails, however. My run takes 20min of setup and 8 hours of AFK farming in normal mode, with 2 people gaining xp. Throw in a 3rd mesmer for Hardmode and doing this Solo should take a lot less time. (4hours ish?)

Anyway, I may adjust my service to have a cheaper alternative where I teach people how to run this themselves, but it is far from hassle free as it requires a specific team build, all the heroes runed, grails, scrolls, and the two proccing items. Until then, I hope my hints helped, and those that have problems with this run, you have the means to get this title from my service.

Peace!

Edit: Now doing runs in HM with same build as NM!

Whatway

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2011

WTB Q11-13 Str -2e/-2s Eternal Shields

A/Me

I've set up Tlam's version perfectly twice. It works all the way up until the first couple titans respawn while one or two dervs remain, and my energy as a warrior cannot regenerate fast enough to maintain enchantments. I'm fairly positive this can be done with any class with higher regen (ie: every other class but war), but 2 pips just isn't enough.

Whatway

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2011

WTB Q11-13 Str -2e/-2s Eternal Shields

A/Me

Maybe I spoke too soon.

Tlam's version works just fine when I as a warrior don't try enchanting everything and its brother too.

Plutoman

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2010

E/

Set this up, I've done a single run with my own self, and a run for my girlfriend. The latter took significantly longer as I varied up the build and used 3 mesmers for damage, dropping QZ. This had the secondary effect of having 5 chars inside the aggro bubble for XP, though. Going to roll back to dual keystones for running others, run the original ranger + bonds to prevent aggro breaks (vital blessing, others), along with the BiP on the Rit.

Got an alternative to run people that's promising. All in all, with the core premise of Tlam's setup, it's amazingly easy to get this rolling..

Djoser Tosarthros

Djoser Tosarthros

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

USA

W/Rt

This is another way to do Legenday survivor but it is not as nearly as fast as HM Vaettir farm with scrolls it takes you 38 zone in zone out with scrolls ANY proffession. Very simple and very fast.

Whatway

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2011

WTB Q11-13 Str -2e/-2s Eternal Shields

A/Me

...Do you plan on sharing this secret method?

loopysnoopy

loopysnoopy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2010

England

The Ministery Of Cookies (MC)

W/Mo

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Originally Posted by Whatway
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...Do you plan on sharing this secret method? Which part you after the method for if its vatiers a simple search on google,bing,yahoo and the many other search engines yields about 40 videos on how to do it.

Whatway

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2011

WTB Q11-13 Str -2e/-2s Eternal Shields

A/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Djoser Tosarthros View Post
This is another way to do Legenday survivor but it is not as nearly as fast as HM Vaettir farm with scrolls it takes you 38 zone in zone out with scrolls ANY proffession. Very simple and very fast. Emphasis mine.

Daesu

Daesu

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Whatway View Post
Emphasis mine. Look under a vaettir farming build for your profession: http://www.gwpvx.com/Category:Great_...farming_builds

Comparing an AFK build against an active farming build is like comparing an apple against an orange. They each have their pros and cons. Vaettir farming is faster but you have to INVEST your own time into it rather than AFK and time is money. With this, I can use my sleeping time (I assume you guys need sleep too ) to gain the title. I can use my awake time for something else more profitable.

Whatway

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2011

WTB Q11-13 Str -2e/-2s Eternal Shields

A/Me

You missed the point Daesu. Neither Djoser's post nor my response to it had or have anything to do with vaettir farming. He hinted at a specific method of easily farming xp and used vaettirs as a time comparison, nothing more. I only prompted him to share his super-secret method (a method apparently useable by any class, is slower than vaettirs, and which requires zoning 38 times into and out of... somewhere).

mauirixxx

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2008

Island of Maui in the State of Aloha!

I'm not old, I just got [LAG]

W/Mo

I know this is an old thread, but I just came across it yesterday and gave Tlam's way a half assed attempt in normal mode. took me 2 runs to figure out the placement in normal mode and to remember the grail :P once I popped the grail everything just worked. took longer then 4:45 though - took a little over 6 hours in normal mode with a Berserkers Insight scroll (3696 xp / minute VS the 4800+ in HM).

Didn't expect to be getting a constant 0 damage - and the degen from bleeding & fire only does about 30 dmg.

Thank you everyone for figuring this out, and posting the details. With my play style, I'd NEVER hit R3 (I tend to kilroy everything, even on my magic users).

Mahalo & aloha!

T1Cybernetic

T1Cybernetic

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Wakefield, West Yorkshire, Uk, Nr Earth

Alternate Evil Gamers [aeg]

N/

Congratulations It's been a while since I last tried this method and failed miserably I had to get survivor killing Vettir's but it is great to know there are still other methods still working!!!