why cant we hav 15k knights??

Dogman

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Bringers of Misery [BoM]

R/N

I've got a little theory.

There's 15k version of every ranger armour expect leather, and that seems to be the base for the FoW ranger armour. There's 15k version of every warrior armour except Knights, and that too seems to be the base for the FoW armour.
I'm not exactly sure on the other classes but if they follow the same formula as ranger and warrior armour, a they all have a type of armour that doesn't have a 15k version, but instead is a base for the FoW version.

domidizzle

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Claire Wolf
Warriors have more 15k than any other classes.. I don't know maybe they have some in the works, but I think thats a bit unfair.
For all the chars i've made ther have been 4 sets of 15k armor. This goes for warriors also.

Quote:
I've got a little theory.

There's 15k version of every ranger armour expect leather, and that seems to be the base for the FoW ranger armour. There's 15k version of every warrior armour except Knights, and that too seems to be the base for the FoW armour.
I'm not exactly sure on the other classes but if they follow the same formula as ranger and warrior armour, a they all have a type of armour that doesn't have a 15k version, but instead is a base for the FoW version.
I have no idea what you mean by base FoW armor. But what I do know, if i'm remembering correctly, each piece of warrior FoW comes with one set of mods from one of following sets: dragon's mods, gladiator's mods and ascalon's mods. All FoW armor no matter the type, all look the same for any given class. This is the advantage of having it.

Rabid Weasel

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Welsh Legion

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dogman
I've got a little theory.

There's 15k version of every ranger armour expect leather, and that seems to be the base for the FoW ranger armour. There's 15k version of every warrior armour except Knights, and that too seems to be the base for the FoW armour.
I'm not exactly sure on the other classes but if they follow the same formula as ranger and warrior armour, a they all have a type of armour that doesn't have a 15k version, but instead is a base for the FoW version.
I see what your getting at, the FoW ele armour does look like the standard ele armour (I.E. none of the *mancer ones) for the female charecters. The Monk collector and FoW could be argued as well... but Necro's look completely differen't!

Papi Chulo

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Legends Of The Hidden Temple

W/R

I think they dont have knights armor is because Andy is the only stupid person to ask...

BBoy_Manchild

BBoy_Manchild

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

dayton ohio

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by domidizzle
Glads with 15k ascalon helm > both of those armors.
The 15k ascalon helm gives damage reduction, I much rather have a nice complete gladiator's then make it look like patchwork. At worse you could always hide the helm.
your stuck with a boot or glove with damage reduction if you use a weapon mastery helmet

Dogman

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Bringers of Misery [BoM]

R/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by domidizzle
For all the chars i've made ther have been 4 sets of 15k armor. This goes for warriors also.



I have no idea what you mean by base FoW armor. But what I do know, if i'm remembering correctly, each piece of warrior FoW comes with one set of mods from one of following sets: dragon's mods, gladiator's mods and ascalon's mods. All FoW armor no matter the type, all look the same for any given class. This is the advantage of having it.
By base I mean the base for the looks, what the armour is modeled after.

Andy the Mad

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

legen of th hidden temple

W/Me

well papi chulo nice reply ur a very good cousin

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

I wouldn't mind seeing a set of 15K Knights as there is a set of Platemail.

Omega X

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by King's Spectre

I'd even been pleased with a 1.5k chainmail. Why do all the graphics work if you're not going to make it useful for an end-game character?
A 15k Chainmail set would be awesome. I was disappointed when I couldn't get a better version later on. Hell they don't even need to change the graphics, just put in the old graphics.

Fungus Amongus

Fungus Amongus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare] | [Rare] Alliance

Quote:
Originally Posted by MistressYichi
Great a 15k version of all the horrible wammo's ive been in PUG's with...

Ouch.

Fluffyx

Fluffyx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Courtney PantsuLand

Death By Teazu [TEA]

W/Mo

There are many duplicate sets.
Dragons > Platemale
Boncelace > fanatic
tormentor > necrotic
The list goes on.

I'm not sure why they wouldn't make a 15k knight, It was the best looking set of regular armor. Perhaps its just that they didn't want to waste time making more duplicates or who knows. But I would have loved to see a 15k knights. It would probably look something like dukes in piken square which would be pretty hot. :]

tuldor

tuldor

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

EXIL

W/N

I know exactly what you mean. I've been expecting this set for 7 months now... They just have to use the one they made for Duc Baradin, which is great and probably the best looking set of armor for warriors, my opinion. I would gladly trade it for my FoW set.

And who cares that this set would be the exact stat replica from the ascalon armor ??? Never would I buy this set which is the ugliest in the whole game, again my opinion. And if u look closely at all the pieces of armor in the game, there are many doppelgangers when it comes to stats. Do not forget that some players favor both looks and protections, which is my case.

Let's hope...

Shadowfox1125

Shadowfox1125

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2005

PST

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Diabloâ„¢
pfffft. Nude FTW!
Nude Guild Battles FTW!!

Wow.. now that would be interesting..

15k Knights?
Eh.. I've never liked the Knights armor 'cept the tunic and boots. Can't stand the helm.

Nevin

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

I'm pretty sure Guild Wars/Anet has always stated the 15k armors aren't done yet, eventually they'll all be implented someday... And they'll stop cutting corners (THATS RIGHT! MOST 15k ARMORS ARE JUST RETEXTURES, I WANT NEW MODELS!!! NEW MODELS!!!)

What ever happened to this armor http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/pc/g/u/guwapc006.jpg seemed perfectly fine to be implemented.

BBoy_Manchild

BBoy_Manchild

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

dayton ohio

N/Mo

I GOT IT, I FINALLY FIGURED IT OUT
i think anet realized they made a mistake making knights/ascalon less effective then the other armor types, they probably only made the 15k ascalon to keep all the newb wammos from rioting in the streets

SilentAssassin

SilentAssassin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

Remnants of Ascalon, KT alliance

R/N

yeah Nevin I found it weird to that in some screeny's there were armours who I've never seen and no it weren't screeny's from chapter2...

That armour looks pretty nice

about 15k knights? who needs it??

Star Gazer

Star Gazer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Zerohour Enterprises [ZHE]

W/

have*, and dragon's suppliment the abscence of Knight's armor. Thanks for playing

SyR1S

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by I pwnd U
because of 15k ascalon armor. knights armor is the same thing as ascalon armor. both have absorbtion built in. if u check the 15k ascalon to the 15k knights u will find out they are the exact same. no need to have too kinds of armor that are the EXACT same but look different. sides i would stil stick to 15k ascalon armor instead of 15k knights.
No your completely wrong, there is a reason to have 2 armors that LOOK different but are the same, Why? you see theres these things in your head called eyes... eyes can see different things, some things look more apealing and some people like the look of different things better then others..


Now. Theres these people called gamers, some of them play a game called guildwars which you can get different kinds of armor... Some people like to look cool and badass.. Why?? because its apealing and thats just how the human brain works. Now do you understand why theres a reason?? Because they look different and some people "like" to wear a full set of armor, one that looks like knights armor. But maybe they'de like to spend a little more money and get a more unique version of it just like the other armors.. Hmmmm....

The Real Roy Keane

The Real Roy Keane

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Dublin, Ireland

I wouldn't recommend knights myself. Decent players will discount you immediately sine you're wearing an armour thats essentially broken.

Unkemptwolf

Unkemptwolf

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

I mustve missed something. My warrior wears knights armor and is absolutely fantastic. In PuGs, I'm almost always the last tank standing (though I'm also usually the first one in), and I've even had people compliment me on how hardy (if you will) my character was, in Sorrows Furnace no less! Does this mean I could switch to another (not broken) armor, and be even more powerful? Cause that would be cool.

Main Question: What is broken about knights/ascalon?

SyR1S

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

its underpowered

snapp

snapp

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Real Roy Keane
I wouldn't recommend knights myself. Decent players will discount you immediately sine you're wearing an armour thats essentially broken.
Bull.

in PVP I can understand the benefits of mix n match knights + glads, but in PVE it doesn't matter. I've been playing for months finished the game a looong time ago, done countless FoW and Underworld Runs, all in FULL knights armor.

Why? because the other armors are ugly and I refuse to let my warrior run around in a skirt. 15K plate would be awesome except I can't get over how illogical it is to have GIANT shoulder fins blocking the warriors field of vision. It's a personal preference and I really couldn't care less about the "decent" players that would exclude an experienced player from their group just because of the armor they are wearing. There's always another group somewhere else.

Trelon Burg

Trelon Burg

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

Oklahoma

Uphill Battle [uB]

I'd rather them release a whole new type of armor, then waste their time reskinning an old one. But chapter 2 is coming for a reason, so maybe you should just bide your time and be ready to pounce on a new set, instead of worrying about a prolithic wammo skin. I'd like to see armor that actually does something special like the lieutenants helm that reduces hex duration, it'd be awesome at a max armor rating. But thats my 2 cents.

Andy the Mad

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

legen of th hidden temple

W/Me

well of the armors that r alrdy here i prefer 15k plates and glads and i hav both of em but really i would luv it if they took out ascalon and put in knights

Fatty Fatty Boomballati

Fatty Fatty Boomballati

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Colorado

True Foundation

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dahnel
erm call me stupid but is'nt that the point of 15k armor ???
Wow said so perfectly...

BBoy_Manchild

BBoy_Manchild

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

dayton ohio

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by snapp
Bull.
Why? because the other armors are ugly and I refuse to let my warrior run around in a skirt. 15K plate would be awesome except I can't get over how illogical it is to have GIANT shoulder fins blocking the warriors field of vision. It's a personal preference and I really couldn't care less about the "decent" players that would exclude an experienced player from their group just because of the armor they are wearing. There's always another group somewhere else.
cmon dude, pick your battles, the shoulder pads are blocking the warrior's view more then this helmet? nothing illogical about wanting something to keep a swift chop to the neck from lopping off your head

Raxxman

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

TEOC

W/N

It's such a shame that knights and ascalon armour are effectively broken.

would be nice if the chest piece didn't stack, so that a full suit would have double absorb and not be so utterly inefficient.

Problem I have is every Wammo who uses Knights I've seen just gets hammered when tanking. My Warr/Nec is much more effective at soaking it up, and I only ware platemail, so I assume that the extra +5 is making all the difference

The Real Roy Keane

The Real Roy Keane

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Dublin, Ireland

Quote:
Originally Posted by snapp
Bull.

in PVP I can understand the benefits of mix n match knights + glads, but in PVE it doesn't matter. I've been playing for months finished the game a looong time ago, done countless FoW and Underworld Runs, all in FULL knights armor.

I meant in Pvp..i should've specified.

snapp

snapp

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by BBoy_Manchild
cmon dude, pick your battles, the shoulder pads are blocking the warrior's view more then this helmet? nothing illogical about wanting something to keep a swift chop to the neck from lopping off your head
ok I'll submit that the helm would be a problem as well, but I mean seriously if you gotta choose between the Platemail helm and the knights helm, the platemail helm looks a lot cooler. The only time I wear the knights helm is when I am using the lieutenants helm.

looks kinda like a teddy bear

SirJackassIII

SirJackassIII

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Belgium

none

N/E

Quote:
15K plate would be awesome except I can't get over how illogical it is to have GIANT shoulder fins blocking the warriors field of vision.
I think the fins on the 15k Platemail are similar to the armor worn by knights during joust tournament, to protect the head, since a full blow the the head with a long wooden pole pretty much equaled death. The fins protected the head because the pole would slide off to the side or to the top, causing more of a whiplash effect. It also didn't really hinder the view of the knight because all they had to do was run forwards, but they were still very accurate at positioning their pole.
But, since there are no mounts, polearms or jousting duels, I might be wrong about the tru reason behind the fins...

snapp

snapp

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

W/

my guess is...Aerodynamics :P

munkieix

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

where ever u want me to be

Gangsters in the Hood

15k knights = fow i think.

Papi Chulo

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Legends Of The Hidden Temple

W/R

Andy, Why do did ju even ask this stupid question?

Donut Zeke

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

I would love a set of 15k knights, as long as it looked like Justiciar Hablion's armor. That would be pimp.