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Chicomalo
Hi guys new to the site and guild wars. I been debating on purchasing gw from offgamers website the trilogy plus eye of the north expansion. You guys think is worth getting it for the achievement before gw2 is out? My wife and I will get a copy.
Thanks.
Thanks.
Pinkest One
There's still plenty of fun to be had for a new GW player.
Just don't expect scores of people standing in outposts waiting to do the mission/quest you need to accomplish.
Heroes(and a wife) will be more reliable than Random people anyway.
Just linking an account in the Hall Of Monuments will get you some Gear for GW2 with lots of other goodies not far behind that.
It's cheap,its big,its pretty and its a very different playstyle than any other games ive played.
Buy!
Just don't expect scores of people standing in outposts waiting to do the mission/quest you need to accomplish.
Heroes(and a wife) will be more reliable than Random people anyway.
Just linking an account in the Hall Of Monuments will get you some Gear for GW2 with lots of other goodies not far behind that.
It's cheap,its big,its pretty and its a very different playstyle than any other games ive played.
Buy!
gremlin
Another Husband and wife team posted here recently doing exactly what you propose and they seem to be having a great time.
Still a fun game and many people still play.
In recent times the multiplayer aspect has dropped off being confined to new players still working their way through the basic storyline quests.
As you can understand players who have been in the game a long time are kind of been there done that, so they tend to play with ai teams of heroes to complete their hall of monument tasks.
This is not a problem a team of two live players is well placed to complete the game and have fun doing it.
If you can find a guild that can help you even better if not there are plenty of people on the forum who will guide you if your stuck.
Still a fun game and many people still play.
In recent times the multiplayer aspect has dropped off being confined to new players still working their way through the basic storyline quests.
As you can understand players who have been in the game a long time are kind of been there done that, so they tend to play with ai teams of heroes to complete their hall of monument tasks.
This is not a problem a team of two live players is well placed to complete the game and have fun doing it.
If you can find a guild that can help you even better if not there are plenty of people on the forum who will guide you if your stuck.
Chicomalo
Nice! and thank you for the info guys. Will it make it easier if I had the Trilogy and Eye of the North over having just Prophecies and eye of the north?
Masseur
Yeah, you definitely want to get them all, including Eye of the North
Queen Of Recovery
if your getting the trilogy, i suggest you start in nightfall.
that campaign goes faster then prophecies and you get your heroes.
it makes the game easier and more fun.
that campaign goes faster then prophecies and you get your heroes.
it makes the game easier and more fun.
gremlin
Its useful to have all in the series because then you have access to every skill and all the character classes.
Each of the games let you create the original guild wars character classes, the 2 follow up games give you those and let you create 2 more classes.
Factions gives you the Assassin and Ritualist.
Nightfall gives you Paragon and Dervish.
In addition its not much of a spoiler to say that there are many powerful "elite" skills to find and these are scattered across all the games should you need one of these to set up a particular build its very annoying to find its in a game you do not own.
Each of the games let you create the original guild wars character classes, the 2 follow up games give you those and let you create 2 more classes.
Factions gives you the Assassin and Ritualist.
Nightfall gives you Paragon and Dervish.
In addition its not much of a spoiler to say that there are many powerful "elite" skills to find and these are scattered across all the games should you need one of these to set up a particular build its very annoying to find its in a game you do not own.
Thrilla Killa
For sure, get all the games. Not being able to have certain skills from certain campaigns will hurt you in the long run.
cosyfiep
there is plenty to do, and yes, get all 3 (the trilogy)..probably cheaper than just getting one right now anyways....and yes, playing with your spouse (my hubby got me started on gw) is a lot of fun.
so welcome to guildwars!
so welcome to guildwars!
Chicomalo
Thank you guys, I purchase all of them for my wife and I. We should be rolling here soon questing. =)
drowze
Definitely worth it, and welcome to the wonderful world of GW
On a side note; why do people always recommend starting in Nightfall? Heroes are good, only if you can give them decent builds (the gear doesn't matter much in Normal Mode, I agree with that). You can't expect new players to have a lot of skills unlocked. And even if they have their skills unlocked, a new player usually doesn't have the experience to make a good build for every profession.
So I suggest you start in Prophecies. Sure, it's slow paced, but since everything is new to you, that shouldn't be problem^^. After prophecies you should have some more experience with builds and team synergy, so then you can start Nightfall to get your heroes and tweak them to your playstyle. Well, that's just my 2 cents
On a side note; why do people always recommend starting in Nightfall? Heroes are good, only if you can give them decent builds (the gear doesn't matter much in Normal Mode, I agree with that). You can't expect new players to have a lot of skills unlocked. And even if they have their skills unlocked, a new player usually doesn't have the experience to make a good build for every profession.
So I suggest you start in Prophecies. Sure, it's slow paced, but since everything is new to you, that shouldn't be problem^^. After prophecies you should have some more experience with builds and team synergy, so then you can start Nightfall to get your heroes and tweak them to your playstyle. Well, that's just my 2 cents
LifeInfusion
Having someone to play with will stave off the self harm boredom (Doctor Who reference).
30/50 isn't that bad. There's plenty of guilds working on Hall of Monuments (HoM) or what you uninitiated lot call "achievements".
My advice is to use henchmen in Eye of the North (EoTN) unless you have proper hero builds and to use monk heroes from Nightfall in Prophecies and Factions. Factions' henchmen monks are particularly bad.
If you ever need any help whatsover PM me ingame, Vital Infusion. I don't do handouts (tried that) but I can definitely help you with stuff like builds ("skillsets" for heroes) or Black Widow Spider/ Black Moa capping (+1 point for HoM).
30/50 isn't that bad. There's plenty of guilds working on Hall of Monuments (HoM) or what you uninitiated lot call "achievements".
My advice is to use henchmen in Eye of the North (EoTN) unless you have proper hero builds and to use monk heroes from Nightfall in Prophecies and Factions. Factions' henchmen monks are particularly bad.
If you ever need any help whatsover PM me ingame, Vital Infusion. I don't do handouts (tried that) but I can definitely help you with stuff like builds ("skillsets" for heroes) or Black Widow Spider/ Black Moa capping (+1 point for HoM).
Chicomalo
I think people were recommending me to start with Nightfall just to make sure that we are able to do runs and difficult quest with our heroes. Not sure how many hard quest I might have before I get my M.O.X. the Golem hero. But most likely I will be with my wife questing too so maybe just the two of us can handle things right. Normally I play the tank version and she plays the healer type but who knows what she might decide to play in this game.
Showtime
yep prophecies... all you get now are people who want to speed thru things. start with propheices.. it's the only part with a decent storyline. once you get to lions arch, you can get to other places and unlock heros. then finish prophecies, factions, nf and eotn in that order. just the 1st time thru and then play whatever to unlock whatever you want to try next. also join a decent guild. guilds will help you a lot that will make things go smoother. remember... /wiki xxxxx
in game type /wiki armor for info on armor etc.
in game type /wiki armor for info on armor etc.
Chicomalo
Ic, cool, then =) Wife went with Elemetalist might end up E/M who knows. I am debating which route to take as a Warrior.
gremlin
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Ic, cool, then =) Wife went with Elemetalist might end up E/M who knows. I am debating which route to take as a Warrior.
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Firstly character class choice, your secondary class you can eventually change and in fact can change it at will once you have reached a certain point in the game.
Try out all the secondary classes even if your sure of what you want to take.
its free experience points and unlocks skills.
When you have tried them all then make your semi permanent choice this one will be with you for quite a while.
Prophesies first game in the series western european style slow character development eases you into the game quite well.
Factions second game Asian in style faster development
Nightfall North African imo style game even faster development and the Hero system.
Henchmen ai help with preset skills and equipment.
Heroes start with a basic skill set and weapon you can customise their skills and weapons from any skills you have unlocked on your own character.
Initially they will be worse than henchmen later on they will become a collection of max level ai heroes fine tuned for your use.
Chicomalo
Ic nice info bud, that should help a lot, I just pass the info along to the wife so she knows what we will be getting into.
Sirds
Normaly I agree, but not now. Today I recommend start in Nightfall so you can participiate Halloween fest http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Halloween_2011 and see Mad King appearances in Kamadan.
If you start in Prophecies this can take several days to travel to Lions Arch for first time player.
If you start in Prophecies this can take several days to travel to Lions Arch for first time player.
gremlin
Good idea Sirds they could start a character in Nightfall to have some halloween fun today.
Still start another character in game of choice to play the game and the nf character isn't wasted as they have 8 character slots each.
in fact nothing wrong with starting several characters they can have one that they always use together and another that is good when only one is playing.
Still start another character in game of choice to play the game and the nf character isn't wasted as they have 8 character slots each.
in fact nothing wrong with starting several characters they can have one that they always use together and another that is good when only one is playing.
Chicomalo
Ic that is good to know, however; bein Halloween day I dout we will be gaming much. Maybe next year if gw2 gets delay.
Silmar Alech
I recommend Nightfall, because this way you learn how to use, control and equip heroes. In the beginning, this is a bit more difficult than taking the pre-made henchmen, but later you are familiar with heroes and you are much stronger for the final missions.
I know many fellow guildmates who started in Prophecies (when Prophecies were the only campaign). Some didn't learn how to use heroes yet. They unlocked all of them, but they don't know which build are good for them, which hero to take, and how to equip them. If they go with me, I am often the only one who fills the group with heroes. I started in Nightfall myself, and for me using self-skilled heroes to fill the party was the natural play style right from the start. It was fun to make out builds not only for myself, but also for them.
I know many fellow guildmates who started in Prophecies (when Prophecies were the only campaign). Some didn't learn how to use heroes yet. They unlocked all of them, but they don't know which build are good for them, which hero to take, and how to equip them. If they go with me, I am often the only one who fills the group with heroes. I started in Nightfall myself, and for me using self-skilled heroes to fill the party was the natural play style right from the start. It was fun to make out builds not only for myself, but also for them.
drowze
Yeah, I agree heroes are great, and I myself think making a 7 hero team build and tinkering around with it through trial and error is one of the most fun things in GW. However if you just start with the game you won't have alot of skills unlocked to give to your heroes. Playing through the slowpaced prophecies storyline will help you get used to the game mechanics and give you the opportunity to learn about what skills there are around you, without having to trouble yourself with thinking up builds for your heroes (henchmen do the job just fine).
That being said, I didn't start in nightfall myself (got GW 1 or 2 weeks before factions came out) so I don't know if it makes any difference at all to have no skills for heroes other than their basic setup. If others say they didn't have problems with that, then who am I to say they should have started in proph
Whatever you decide to do, Chicomalo, is to have fun. And GW will guarantee you will have fun no matter where you start your adventure
You are always welcome to contact me ingame to help play through a mission or quest, or just ask questions (IGN: Drow Ze)
That being said, I didn't start in nightfall myself (got GW 1 or 2 weeks before factions came out) so I don't know if it makes any difference at all to have no skills for heroes other than their basic setup. If others say they didn't have problems with that, then who am I to say they should have started in proph
Whatever you decide to do, Chicomalo, is to have fun. And GW will guarantee you will have fun no matter where you start your adventure
You are always welcome to contact me ingame to help play through a mission or quest, or just ask questions (IGN: Drow Ze)
Chicomalo
Thank you guys, I can see both side of the story about getting heroes right away or not getting them. I figure since my wife and I play together that we can manage it for now until lvl 10 were we get the M.O.X Golem. Then go from there. If I was playing by myself I would had gotten the nighfall route.
Sirds
Even starting in Prophecies you can get 2 more heroes fast. When you arrive Lions Arch talk Len Caldoron and take quest "What Lies Beneath" this and "The Beginning of the End" take you to the first EoTN city Boreal Station and reward is 2 new heroes: Ogden Stonehealer (monk) and Vekk (elementalist). In next EoTN outpost Eye of the North you can craft maximal armor. After then my suggestion is map back to Lions Arch and continue Prophecies storyline because EoTN is designed for lvl 20 players.