Still possible for a returning player to get all 50 HoM Points?

Hi i used to play GW back in the day of 05-06 and was wandering if it would still realistic be possible to go from 12ish points to 50 in the matter of say 5-6 months? I recently lost my job so you could say i have a lot of time on my hands and am willing to put in the hours if it is still possible with hardcore play.

I'm thinking that getting all the points for miniatures will be the hardest for me to accomplish. Do you also think getting 50 miniatures will be impossible even with the cash nowadays?

Thanks.

It's certainly possible, people have done it in even less time, but... wouldn't it be a better idea to go seek a new job?

As for minis, they may be an issue, but then - you get a guaranteed black Moa chick and a practically guaranteed Canthan new year gold pet. And ater all, 30 points is easily achievable without a single mini, and material rewards stop at 30.

Yeah i know 30 points is more than doable from what i have read and from looking at other threads but 50 really is my goal.

About the job thing i recently only lost my job last week and i do take a couple hours out each day to browse for jobs but unless your in the same boat as me with hardly much job experience (was in the same type of work for 4 years) and from the UK i doubt you would understand how painful it is to even get interviews nowadays. No offence.

Thanks for the reply

I wouldn't say that you are practically guaranteed to get a new cathan new year pet. Some people have shitty luck and gone through 300+ fortunes without getting one. It's better to say that each year, most birthday minipets go down in value...

Theres even a sticky!

What i should have asked is it possible to get 50 miniatures? Because I'm guessing not many people have much more whites to sell? Oh and do they need to be undedicated for them to count towards getting the 50 mini achievement?

Yes, they have to be undedicated. It is certainly possible to get 50 minis, though, if you have the cash. Many people have multiple characters, possibly on multiple accounts. Since duplicate minis do not count in the HoM, then there is nothing that they can do with duplicate birthday presents except sell them. Just take a look at some of the recent mini threads in the Buy/Sell forums here and you can see that minis of all colors from all years are available, not to mention other minis (Canthan New Year, WiK, Strongboxes, etc.).

not only is it fairly cheap to get white minis ~5-10k/ea but if u still had your caras from 05-06 u should have a few extra minis from those birthdays.

Yes, it's going to be expensive to get all 50 minis, but it's also going to be very expensive to get say, Obsidian/Vabbian Armor, and the Zaishen title, (unless you're a master of PvP.) Tbh, I would say getting the minis is NOT going to be one of your largest difficulties.

Getting 50 minipets is very easy, if you buy from trading and auction websites. If you have the money. Don't bother with ingame looking for minipets - it's too tedious, since your minipet collection must contain only distinct minipets - no duplicates allowed.

Make yourself a list of all affordable minipets, start with http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Minipet. Exclude all rare, event or asia minipets. Focus on the yearly birthday minipets, excluding the green ones. As green minipet, create yourself the Black Moa Chick. As gold minipet, buy some cheap 1st or 2nd year gold. Check all you already got.

Focus on these:
There are 8 white minipets for 5 years = 40 minpets
There are 3 purple minipets for 5 years = 15 minipets
+ 1 cheap gold (1st/2nd year) + 1 cheap green (Black Moa Chick)

I just finished buying approx. 35 for my secondary account (I already had 15). It took about a week.

About prices: first I browsed the websites and noted offers in my list. This gave me an overview over the price levels. Then I began to buy from the cheaper offers and ignored the expensive ones.

From my observation, the prices were currently (last week of Oct 2011) like this, more or less:

year	color	count	price
1	white	8	1-2k
1	purple	3	8-10k
1	gold	2	30-40k
2	white	8	2-5k
2	purple	3	23k
2	gold	2	30-40k
3	white	8	8-10k
3	purple	3	25k
3	gold	2	don't buy
4	white	8	18-22k
4	purple	3	30-35k
4	gold	2	don't buy
5	white	8	25-33k
5	purple	3	30-70k
5	gold	2	don't buy

It's only an indication, of course. Prices change every hour, and this list is probably already outdated. I bought from german communities. US communities may have other price levels.

Building your hom-points with minipets is dirt cheap, if you compare it with the consumable titles.
If you buy all 50 minipets, the total prices may be like 92k (1st year)+101k (2nd year)+140k (3rd year)+250k (4th year)+200k(5th year)=783k for 8 of 50 hom-points, which is much much much cheaper than any of the consumable titles (buy all 10000 points with 100g per point=1000k).

Well the good thing is i can get the Gladiator title a lot easier than Zaishen one for the PvP statue. For Obsidian i have worked out how many ectoplasm and obsidian i can farm each hour on average and it should take a bit of time but I'll get it eventually. Cheers.

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Wow! This was a massive help, thank you!

Maybe you have some rare old weapons, in that case I might be able to make you a few hundred ectos if that is the case.
If your not sure about it I'll be glad to help you.
ign: Coast Monk

You can get a cheap gold minipet during the Canthan New Year, with just a little luck. Just saying, that might save you a few hundred platinum.

And you can increase your odds (because it does depend a lot on luck) by doing the quests on all available characters. So if they're not already, fill your character slots and get those characters to level 10 by February.
It doesn't hurt to wait on your gold mini until you give this a shot. Unless some major new development happens (like GW2 being released in the next 3 months [highly doubtful]), which causes another HoM panic and prices to spike, mini values should continue to fall.

Other random advice:
Take advantage of the daily Zaishen Quests, which will award you bonus cash, experience, and reputation for doing things you'll probably be doing anyway.

Consider farming for weekly Nicholas the Traveler Gifts. That could be a good source for consumable points (or cash, if you sell the gifts).

And brush up on the latest farming builds to take advantage of the upcoming Special Treats Weekend and Wintersday events (Snowball Dominance is really where it's at).

Dude, I am so sorry you lost your job. I am unemployed as well, and decide to go for 50 for the same reason. The employment situation is far better in the U.S. but still sucks hard. As for the time, 5-6 months can easily be made to happen without too much pvp if you wish. completing masters in all campaigns + skill hunter titles is an easy 11 points. If you start a character in pre ldoa is an easy point. Bringing that character into post will usually net another 100-3000 points in the consumption titles without counting festivals. (using gifts of the traveler). Holidays = synergy title events. The wisdom title can be pursued while farming festive drops. You can stock up now on decayed orr emblems and feathered avirica scalps for wintersday collectors and to get spare materials for consets. This is by far the best time of year to make Gwamm or 50 HOM points. (it also helps to keep your mind off of the boredom of unemployemnt) Good luck on all fronts man.

Sorry, I sometimes forget not everyone has 10 characters to farm the lunar fortunes from quests with.

I did 50/50 gwamm in four months without fuss, depends if you put time in and work methodically.

Even with 10 toons to farm fortunes, it's still possible not to get one. The year of the tiger had great odds (I got three), last year just plain sucked. Went through all of them and didn't get one until resorted to farm tokens.

Yeah being unemployed isn't fun but atleast i have something to get me through the boring times ahead.

Cheers everyone for all your help.

Realistically best place to start is PvE land.... brush up on you hero builds and do all the missions in NM and HM. From here I would advise going on and doing Vanquisher and Cartographer simultaneously by vanquing a zone and scraping it using texmod. (You could even do these 1 per day with the Zaishen Vanquish/Mission) This should give you plenty of seed money and elite tomes (which you can sell) to get you started. Like others said take advantage of farming events and the weekly nicholas the traveller scavenger hunt to get consumables to build up your 3 consumable titles.

The odds are the same every year you need luck. Year of the tiger I got 0 Tigers from like 800-900 fortunes. Usually the drop rate is around 0.33%

Yep it's definitely possible; I quit the game about 3 years ago and only just came back 3 months ago when someone mentioned the HoM calculator had come out because I'm looking forward to GW2.

I'd never cared too much about my HoM when I was playing because it was only there as a trophy thing but when there actually became a benefit to it I started looking seriously into kitting it out.

In 3 months at a slow/steady pace (with a 2 week break for a holiday OS in the middle) I've gone from 0/50 to 16/50 and that's not even really trying. I was working 10 hour days and only devoting 2-3 hours a night to playing when I got home afterwards.

For someone with a lot more time on their hands, even if it's for a disappointing reason like a job loss, I'm sure you can get through your HoM in no time at all.

Also, are you in a guild and / or alliance? Don't be afraid to ask your guildies and allies for help or if they have items that you can use - I won't say everyone does, but many people will do discounts on trades for ally members or will just give away items for free that could advance you through your HoM further.

Then what do you have to say about this?
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Talk:...une#Drop_rates

Since you said you play from way back in the day I would suggest not selling any weapons you have from back in the day until you get them price checked on guru. I saw someone who wanted to get 50/50 after not playing from about the same time period as you (if i recall correctly) and made a few thousand ectos off a single weapon chances are slim but you never know what you have lying around in storage after such a long period away.

I went from 0 points to 45/50 points in just 2.5 months of playing from scratch.

I didn't continue any further because I needed 25 more maxed titles to hit 50 points, and I find titles too troublesome so I just stopped there.

As for minis... Don't pay over 30-35k for one. Like the guy above, I made a list when I went out for mine. Checked the price guide on this, and another site. On average, it's gonna cost about 15k each x50= 750,000.

I filled my Hero Monument first, because it was obviously cheapest- being able to cap/train all the pets myself, and farm/buy the remaining hero armor sets myself, or cheaply.

Then I filled my Minipet, because it's the 2nd easiest/cheapest one to fill. Just sit inside the Eye of the North and that's where the mini traders are.

First I got all first year whites for like 10k total.
Then all 2nd year whites.
Then all 3rd years whites.
Then all 1st year purples.
Then all 4th year whites.
Then all 2nd year purples.
Then all 3rd year purples and 5th year whites, because they are about the same price.

I had maybe 5-7 mini's in my account when I started, from the characters I created ages ago and then quit playing gw.


Go to the guildwiki and create a list of every mini. Categorize first by year, then color. (Ignore all golds and greens). Make your own Moa once you've played enough of the game to be able to, and New year the gold, like everyone said, or hopefully be lucky like me and get a Prince Rurik, lol.


Hero and Mini's are DEF. the best/easiest monuments to fill first. 16/50 for less than 900,000 gold. (Some single points, or in the case of consumeable titles cost around that for 1 solitary TITLE).


Weapons is what im 'working' on atm. Bought a cheap destroyer for 50-65k, and have farmed war supplies for a half dozen or so oppressors. Im not worrying on it too much, because I still 15 or so titles Im also working on to get the Title monument filled.

Armor is pretty much filled organically. I had 4-5 suits before i ever heard of the Hom. 2 for my main, and sets for a few characters I don't even really play. I'm not even concerning myself with it for the nonce, because Obsidian armor is gonna be ridiculous to buy. (Figure ill Jade Quarry for a few weeks to end up getting it. I like JQ and Zkeys are a pretty decent source of income if you don't like farming ectos or gemsets).


As for the Titles monument... It's a grind. Period. My suggestion, and path actually, is/was to just beat all 3 campaigns all the way through, pretty easy. Then, go back and master the normal and hard modes. Do the normal mode mastery if you didnt get it through the organic playthrough, then the hardmode right after because you now know the mission map and its fresh in your mind.

For 'hard' missions... Wait for the zaishen quest, or visit the 'services offered' page on this site, and hire someone to run it.

Vanqs are time consuming, but all of 'em are doable. Do the zaishen vanquish with a group every day +1 other on your own with hero's to speed it along.



Really didn't mean to write all this, meant to just talk about my Mini's strategy/experience. But oh well. Good luck. See ya at the top.

Build a toon for farming and practice farming asap. There's 2 events coming up. The small special event drops pies and booze. The massive xmas one does wintersday stuff. allocate extra time to farm and play during those events if you can. There are plenty of farming guides for most character types.

Vaettir, Snowman, Raptors are some the fastest. Theres a wintersday event guide to help with wintersday gifts. If you do enuff of it, you can get drunkard, sweet tooth, and party titles. Those are usually minimum 1k platinum, but will be more if you have to buy later.

In the mean time buy up tots if you can. Try not to pay more than 30k a stack now. Theres tons. I bought another 100 stacks this week. But they will dry up. In fact cookies are a great buy for 15k or so a stack. You can death spam them.

If you don't have money, check your inventory. If you have any old weapons and equipment from year 1. Everything including some runes and mixed dyes could worth nothing to a small fortune now. Screen it and pc it in the pc thread. Especially things like max r7/r8 weapons and other stuff that can no longer drop.
Don't do pm's cuz you might get scammed.

If you don't have much, no worries. Just focus and follow existing guides to get titles. Read before doing and it will save you time in the long run. Try to Vanquish, hunt skills and do carography at the same time. Join a good guild if you havent.

Get your heros up to speed so you don't have to ask people for help. Most all of the game is doable with heros and you won't have to wait. Between them and wiki for info on missions etc, you should be fine.

You can msg me if you need basic weapons and stuff for you and your heros. Idk what I have, but I find useable stuff daily. Nothin fancy but serviceable is all you need for now.

IGN Guild Death