Flux - December 2011

lemming

lemming

The Hotshot

Join Date: May 2006

Honolulu

International District [id???]

Courier's Haste

You move 25% faster while carrying a bundle item. While carrying the bundle, hexes and conditions on you expire 33% faster.

Still Number One

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2008

W/

Sounds dumb. Slowing flaggers probably wont be a viable strategy without body blocking and it really seems like it was implemented with only snowballs in mind (assuming this effect counts for holiday arenas).

WarcryOfTruth

WarcryOfTruth

Site Contributor

Join Date: Nov 2009

Atlanta

[LIFE]

P/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Still Number One View Post
Sounds dumb. Slowing flaggers probably wont be a viable strategy without body blocking and it really seems like it was implemented with only snowballs in mind (assuming this effect counts for holiday arenas).
Minion Apocalypse counted for Costume Brawl, so I assume it will be no different here.

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

Holy RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing hell, this will teach me to not miss the Flux discussion next time a festival arena comes around. This is going to warp Snowball in ridiculous ways.

hitsuji182

hitsuji182

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2008

Poland

The Autonomy [?????????]

Mo/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by lemming View Post
Courier's Haste

You move 25% faster while carrying a bundle item. While carrying the bundle, hexes and conditions on you expire 33% faster.
LOL. Snowballs gonna be fun this year!

Da Kenster

Da Kenster

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

A shoebox

The Boat Crew

W/E

Hmmm, intriguing

lursey

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

d2

R/N

no one thought of ritualist?

StormDragonZ

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by lursey View Post
no one thought of ritualist?
The only thing I can muster an idea over is an overwhelming wave of Destructive Was Glaive (DwG) bots attempting to bombard Jade Quarry.

Better yet, maybe Mighty Was Vorizun will be Elmira loved.

ErrantVenture

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2010

Social Darwinism [SaD]

A/W

So basically it's just a not-allowed-to-push-flaggers month. Which means dervspike and AP spike are AGAIN going to have the advantage over balanced (whatever that means in 2k11) builds.

zzz.

master of spiriz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2009

Finland

Rt/

Wow. This flux goes perfectly with my rits GwK build.

HigherMinion

HigherMinion

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2008

East Anglia, UK

Order of [Thay]

N/

Item spells needed a buff. But here's the question; does using an item spell purely for the flux more beneficial than 4040 set?

ErrantVenture

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2010

Social Darwinism [SaD]

A/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by HigherMinion View Post
Item spells needed a buff. But here's the question; does using an item spell purely for the flux more beneficial than 4040 set?
No, most items spells are pure garbage.

Zakarr

Zakarr

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Finland

Kurzicks gonna love this flux. Free 25% speed boost while carrying amber and kurzick monks gonna love it even more. 33% hex dur reduction with 25% speed while preserving amber for green repair.

gg anet

AndrewSX

AndrewSX

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2010

Italy, Turin

Lake

E/

Does it apply to Juggy/Turtles in JQ?

Btw yeah, seems waay too focused on snowball fights imo.

Missing HB

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2010

Anna

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke View Post
Holy RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing hell, this will teach me to not miss the Flux discussion next time a festival arena comes around. This is going to warp Snowball in ridiculous ways.
Exactly my point... In fact, i don't really get the point of it as it's also going to make relic run in hall of heroes map a complete joke ( i.e free win for blue in 1v1, as red way is stucked anyway and 3v3 entirely on luck...) and aswell lead to some joke situations in Snowball especially...

papryk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Nancy

The Autonomy[?????????]

Quote:
Originally Posted by hitsuji182 View Post
LOL. Snowballs gonna be fun this year!
+1
will be funny

Raven Wing

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

The Imperial Guards of Istan [TIGI]

N/

vengeful was Khanhei says hello

Jeydra

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2008

I may be wrong but aren't the presents in Snowball not bundles (i.e. they slow you down, unlike Kaolai ashes for example) and so won't be affected by the flux?

Seems like a rather meaningless flux to me otherwise.

hitsuji182

hitsuji182

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2008

Poland

The Autonomy [?????????]

Mo/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeydra View Post
I may be wrong but aren't the presents in Snowball not bundles (i.e. they slow you down, unlike Kaolai ashes for example) and so won't be affected by the flux?

Seems like a rather meaningless flux to me otherwise.
This whole flux is dedicated to snowballs, don't you guys see that?

Bristlebane

Bristlebane

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by lemming View Post
... hexes and conditions on you expire 33% faster
Why not take advantage of the reduced hex durations?

Wastrel's Worry @14
(2 seconds.) End effect: causes 95 damage to target and adjacent foes. No effect and ends early if target foe uses a skill.

Enduring Toxin @14
(3 seconds.) Causes -5 Health degeneration. Renewal: if target foe is moving when this hex ends.

Lightning Surge @14
(2 seconds.) End effect: deals 94 lightning damage and causes knock-down.

Shatterstone @14
(2 seconds.) Initial effect: deals 95 cold damage. End effect: deals 95 cold damage.

Bloss

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2009

Me/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeydra View Post
I may be wrong but aren't the presents in Snowball not bundles (i.e. they slow you down, unlike Kaolai ashes for example) and so won't be affected by the flux?

Seems like a rather meaningless flux to me otherwise.
Flags count as bundle and slow you down (less but still slow you down)

and yes snowball snowball snowball, should be fun.

Besides wasn't GvG push flag, push flag again, push some more the tactic for idk, ages now? Atleast some change.

Bristlebane

Bristlebane

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

Mo/

Chase flag runners with GWK and DWG's lol,
hit them with Recurring Insecurity so they have to stop to remove it,
knock them out with GWK.

How about Muddy Terrain and Wastrel's Worry to kill off runners, since WW will trigger 33% faster on bundle holders.

Fluffy Kittens

Guest

Join Date: Dec 2009

make monk hold the seed on druid isle = win?

Jeydra

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bloss View Post
Flags count as bundle and slow you down (less but still slow you down)

and yes snowball snowball snowball, should be fun.

Besides wasn't GvG push flag, push flag again, push some more the tactic for idk, ages now? Atleast some change.
You mean ANY held item counts as a bundle (repair kit, Kaolai, flag, Res Orb in AB, etc)?

fowlero

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

England, UK

We Are The One And Only [rR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeydra View Post
You mean ANY held item counts as a bundle (repair kit, Kaolai, flag, Res Orb in AB, etc)?
That would be correct.

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

Even if this Flux was designed for the purpose of doing something for Snowball, I don't think that this Flux is as harmless to other formats as Minion Apocalypse was. The more I read this thread, the more I feel like things are going to be shaken up a little bit more than intended/desired.

ErrantVenture

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2010

Social Darwinism [SaD]

A/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rezz Anna Nicole View Post
make monk hold the seed on druid isle = win?
Rather have my monk getting +30 armor from shield set + spear

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

This is hilarious and terrible and I don't even frickin' care because it'll be fun to screw around with for a month.

chuckles79

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2009

FILA

P/

I'm so going to abuse my rit this weekend. CM bonus weekend with my rit, oh the humanity.

Coast

Coast

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

Belgium

Whats Going On [sup]

Mo/

so its actually only hex+conditions gone slower(as u'll run not faster as normal speed)

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

oh...cant wait for snowball...I might actually PLAY this year with this implemented!

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

Actually, if the tournament format stays as it did last year, with neither side having Avalanche, this almost makes it to where present carriers are as fast as normal players, isn't it?

ErrantVenture

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2010

Social Darwinism [SaD]

A/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke View Post
Actually, if the tournament format stays as it did last year, with neither side having Avalanche, this almost makes it to where present carriers are as fast as normal players, isn't it?
Depends on the slow rate of presents, it's more than 25% I think

Leohan

Leohan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2009

R/

Let's see how people play the game with this area of effect before we load the guns.
This could be fun or cause major problems. If the issues out weight the pros, Anet are not the kind of people to just leave it alone. At least I hope not...lol

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

I don't know if the effect of this flux on GvG will be good, but it's not going to be huge. Bigger changes have been whined about and had virtually no effect before.

Snowball OTOH is going to be totally different.

Reverend Dr

Reverend Dr

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Super Fans Of Gaile [ban]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ErrantVenture View Post
Rather have my monk getting +30 armor from shield set + spear
Really depends upon the build you are facing tbh.

Jeydra

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2008

Maybe some more Rit midliners (or midliners with /Rt) using the longest-lasting item spell out there would be viable, maybe even Rit backliners but then the Restoration line is completely devoid of cheap prots and hex removal not to mention a good spot heal (Spirit Light involves health sac) so it probably won't work ...

Wyndy

Wyndy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2008

in the know

Chronic Chaos

N/Me

Will Wastrel's Worry work or not? I am confused......

Dark-NighT

Dark-NighT

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Stygian Veil

Shoop Da Woop [Lolz]

N/Mo

Nice flux, should speed up snowball fest then, cus imo it takes to long already.

Coast

Coast

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

Belgium

Whats Going On [sup]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ErrantVenture View Post
Depends on the slow rate of presents, it's more than 25% I think
There is no slow rate