Why is everything Kurzick?

gteddie

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2011

The Incredible Edible Bookah

E/

Been waiting for ages to ZV Gyala Hatchery but the only entrance, deep in Luxon territory, is permanently Kurzick so I cant get the Luxon blessing.

Whats happened to cause such a Faction bias last for so long?

AngelWJedi

AngelWJedi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2008

orlando,florida

Society of Souls [Argh]

Rt/E

i know right. ive been waiting forever myself. makes it hard when you're going for either side when part of it is in a different faction.

I Pwn Brownies

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

*Insert where I live here*

None.

Me/

Start fighting on the Luxon side of AB.


And win.

Venganza

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2011

Fire

Quote:
Originally Posted by I Pwn Brownies View Post
Start fighting on the Luxon side of AB.


And win.
Amen, no one who doesn't work to push boundries back, has zero right to moan.

Spiritz

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

DMFC

Tbh the idea of the boundries was great a few years ago when ab was busy but with less players doing ab it now screws up pve.
Yes - us who have been on gw for longer than a year can remember times when the ab maps been stuck on neutral grounds or even in kurz lands for ages - but at least it gave the pve players a chance to vq the relevant zones.
I know it wont ever get done but anet did split HA away from favor an into world favor - why cant they also do the same with ab and its maps.Have the pve side seperate from the pvp side.Heck im sure gw had and still has many pure pvper`s who dont do pve and cant see why pve should get affected.

Im sure that if things changed where what we did in pve affacted pvp mapes im sure the pvpers would be up in arms over it.
Bottom line - anet please seperate the kurz/lux boundries from pvp or at least set pve where in jade sea its always lux shrines/bounty and same for kurz side.Im sure this would be on many a players dear santa list to anet.

Lil Leena

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2009

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by I Pwn Brownies View Post
Start fighting on the Luxon side of AB.


And win.
Good luck with that, AB died. People only play when its Zaishen combat day.

turbo234

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

WI

Mo/

get 11 other guildies/allies together
win alliance battles
???
profit

aspi

aspi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2010

eeew

N/Rt

Damn pvp influence on pve. Some weird shit there.

Spiritz

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

DMFC

Quote:
Originally Posted by aspi View Post
Damn pvp influence on pve. Some weird shit there.
Its always hit me as weird that pvp affected pve ( favor and boundry in cantha ) but pve didnt have any effect on pvp.
In a way anet are forcing pve players to either settle for less faction via vq in lux/kurz lands or a side effect of stopping us vq till lands return to 50/50.

Showtime

Showtime

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

WTB Q9+5e Bows/Q8 14^50 Weapons

R/P

It wasn't well thought out imo and people seem to prefer Kurzick overall. I kinda wish the title was a lot less faction but only doable through pvp or after a certain point.

Quaker

Quaker

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Aug 2005

Canada

Brothers Disgruntled

I don't see this as a big deal. Yes, it would be nice to get Luxon points for the vanquish, but that doesn't stop you from getting the Zaishen coins or completing the vq titles.
It simply means that you will need to do something else to get Luxon points. QQ

Martin Firestorm

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Louisiana

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by gteddie View Post
Been waiting for ages to ZV Gyala Hatchery but the only entrance, deep in Luxon territory, is permanently Kurzick so I cant get the Luxon blessing.
Same here. It moved a little toward lux a week ago, but the outpost has been in kurz territory since long before this ZV.

Meow Ren

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2011

Black Hand Gang

R/

er, this might be taking the original thread further off course, but if you take the (Kurz) priest blessing from the shrine outside Lev pits, you'll rack up Kurz points for every red dot, true. But the reward at the end for *completing* the vanquish will be Luxon points, if I recall. Gyala is Luxon territory, even if the only town with a blessing shrine outside is currently Kurzick. Coupled with the Zaishen VQ rewards, you'll still end up ahead on Luxon for vanqing. Other option is to just not take a priest blessing and simply vanq (yes, though it goes against our lab-mouse training to always talk to the priests :P)

Showtime

Showtime

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

WTB Q9+5e Bows/Q8 14^50 Weapons

R/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by Meow Ren View Post
(yes, though it goes against our lab-mouse training to always talk to the priests :P)
I forgot to grab priest while vqing. Decided that was the last of farming that title. So began my greatest quest... the vq'ing of grind titles and bs titles.

So far we've won (kinda) one battle (drunkard), but have lost the grind war.

That is what this thread boils down to isn't it? Arenanet making grind even more difficult for poor luxons.

D....

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

I'm waiting until the Rhea's Crater comes up as the ZV on Dec 30th and doing them both at once. From the Rhea's Crater portal, go north up the right side of Gyala and get the Luxon Blessing from the priest outside of Gyala Hatchery. That will minimize the "lost" luxon faction from kills.

EDIT: This won't work - there's no shrine or priest there, dagnabit!

chuckles79

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2009

FILA

P/

It goes in waves. When I started factions in '07 it was balanced but it quickly went towards the luxons. Then in late 08 and 09 it was heavy on the Kurzick side, then it went back to Luxons until the last 8 months.
It'll swing back and forth.

When I went for my VQ title earlier this year/late last year it was impossible to get Kurzick VQs in Luxon land except on AB weekends (there are more Kurzick players than Luxon, but it used to be that most of them did not PvP).

Meow Ren

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2011

Black Hand Gang

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~ View Post
I'm waiting until the Rhea's Crater comes up as the ZV on Dec 30th and doing them both at once. From the Rhea's Crater portal, go north up the right side od Gyala and get the Luxon Blessing from the priest outside of Cavalon. That will minimize the "lost" luxon faction from kills.
Er....Cavalon is north of Rhea's Crater? I thought it was Northwest...as in THROUGH Gyala outpost, then Maishang Hills and thru a swirly to get there? I could be wrong...it's been a while since I've been in Gyala Explorable carto-ing and all.

Unless you mean the priest outside Gyala?...because there isn't any priest outside Gyala. Only shrine with NPC's in Gyala explorable is outside Lev Pits I believe?

Jk Arrow

Jk Arrow

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2008

WI

Dark Phoenix Risin [DPR]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spiritz View Post
Tbh the idea of the boundries was great a few years ago when ab was busy but with less players doing ab it now screws up pve.
Yes - us who have been on gw for longer than a year can remember times when the ab maps been stuck on neutral grounds or even in kurz lands for ages - but at least it gave the pve players a chance to vq the relevant zones.
I know it wont ever get done but anet did split HA away from favor an into world favor - why cant they also do the same with ab and its maps.Have the pve side seperate from the pvp side.Heck im sure gw had and still has many pure pvper`s who dont do pve and cant see why pve should get affected.

Im sure that if things changed where what we did in pve affacted pvp mapes im sure the pvpers would be up in arms over it.
Bottom line - anet please seperate the kurz/lux boundries from pvp or at least set pve where in jade sea its always lux shrines/bounty and same for kurz side.Im sure this would be on many a players dear santa list to anet.
I find it odd with the introduction of Imperial Faction that this should even take place any longer. Lux fight on Kurz side and Kurz fight on Lux side since you earn Imperial Faction rather than Lux/Kurz. Why would boundries need to shift?

Hephaestus Ram

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

None

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by gteddie View Post
Been waiting for ages to ZV Gyala Hatchery but the only entrance, deep in Luxon territory, is permanently Kurzick so I cant get the Luxon blessing.

Whats happened to cause such a Faction bias last for so long?


Can't you bribe the priest for the blessing anyway? 50 gp isn't that much.

chuckles79

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2009

FILA

P/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hephaestus Ram View Post
Can't you bribe the priest for the blessing anyway? 50 gp isn't that much.
You get the blessing for that faction. If you are Kurzick, you may not want Luxon faction, and vice-versa.

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

Quote:
Originally Posted by Meow Ren View Post
Er....Cavalon is north of Rhea's Crater? I thought it was Northwest...as in THROUGH Gyala outpost, then Maishang Hills and thru a swirly to get there? I could be wrong...it's been a while since I've been in Gyala Explorable carto-ing and all.

Unless you mean the priest outside Gyala?...because there isn't any priest outside Gyala. Only shrine with NPC's in Gyala explorable is outside Lev Pits I believe?
Yes, I meant Gyala Hatchery, not Cavalon. And No, I didn't realize there wasn't a preist there, not even a shrine. To which I say: Curses! Foiled again!.

wilebill

wilebill

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mt Vernon, Ohio

Band of the Hawk

W/Mo

When Factions came out everyone it seemed complained. ANet did not listen having at that time a vision of contentious, combative players. As it turned out what they got was frustrated complaining players. But did they revise their own thinking? No, that was too much like work. Good point to keep in mind about GW 2. What you see release day is what you will get: the good, the bad, the ugly.

The faction dependence in Factions goes under the ugly category.

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

Hah, last I bothered checking, Kurz spent a few months with the line deep in their territory, and every AB match was played on a Kurzick map. I'm not sorry that the line has shifted.

Frankly, considering the state of AB, I think they should just link the line to a timer and be done with it.

firadesunna

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

The Ruby Knights of Ascalon [Ruby]

Mo/E

Or they could link the boundaries to competitive mission wins aswell??

ruksak

ruksak

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2009

INDY

PvE

P/W

I would be interested in knowing how many people play (actively) on either side. Because I get the feeling that more people play Kurz. As fickle as it may sound, I believe the Kurz are perceived as "cooler" than the Lux.

Juggernaut = cool

Turtle = meh...not so much

I've been Lux since day one, but have always gotten the notion that they are kinda gay.