Remove exclamation marks from Zaishen Scouts
Sagittario
I see there no reason them to have exclamation mark above them any longer.
MrKGado
Not signed
They're useful for new players or players returning to the game after a long absence to discover Embark Beach
They're useful for new players or players returning to the game after a long absence to discover Embark Beach
Sagittario
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Originally Posted by MrKGado
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They're useful for new players or players returning to the game after a long absence to discover Embark Beach |
Skyy High
/signed
Precisely because of what Sagittario said. It happens all the damn time.
Precisely because of what Sagittario said. It happens all the damn time.
Mireles
/signed for Sagittario reasoning... ive seen this happen to noobs...
Fluffy Kittens
what are zaishen scouts? Oo
MisterB
Zaishen Scouts are intended to help players find people outside of the outpost to complete missions, and the exclamation mark draws their attention. They aren't really the problem. The problem is that new players are not given an explanation upon arrival to Embark Beach on where to go to return to where they were before if port travel is unavailable.
Bristlebane
Orrrrrr.. let exclamation point only show until you zaishen travelled for the first time.
They can remain in Embark Beach though.
They can remain in Embark Beach though.
Sagittario
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Originally Posted by Bristlebane
Orrrrrr.. let exclamation point only show until you zaishen travelled for the first time.
They can remain in Embark Beach though. |
Stimm
totally signed, i cant even count how many times Ive been in an outpost and saw an " ! " and thought oh look a quest and realized it was the travel guy.
I agree simple fix have them until you use them once and then their purpose is full filled, new or returning players learn about the map travel and its done with
I agree simple fix have them until you use them once and then their purpose is full filled, new or returning players learn about the map travel and its done with
MithranArkanere
I think they should have a single introductory quest, like the Zaishen guides for PvP, to let you get there, meet the people in there and leave, and then stop having the exclamation.
cosyfiep
/signed x100
how many new people have stood in one of the mission towns in ascalon and hit the "!" on the stupid scout, only to wind up in embark beach--from where they have no idea how to get back---
(have you ever stood in embark and listened on the chat channel for these poor souls?)
The scout can stay...the "!" has to go!!!!!
how many new people have stood in one of the mission towns in ascalon and hit the "!" on the stupid scout, only to wind up in embark beach--from where they have no idea how to get back---
(have you ever stood in embark and listened on the chat channel for these poor souls?)
The scout can stay...the "!" has to go!!!!!
Sagittario
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Originally Posted by cosyfiep
have you ever stood in embark and listened on the chat channel for these poor souls?
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). I can do it every day and there are always plenty.----------
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Originally Posted by Stimm
totally signed, i cant even count how many times Ive been in an outpost and saw an " ! " and thought oh look a quest and realized it was the travel guy.
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Cuilan
The players who become trapped in Embark Beach will still land there even without exclamation marks.
WarcryOfTruth
One solution I always thought should be implemented would be an NPC near the very middle of Embark, maybe on top of the giant hill where the Helicopter was on April Fools' Day. And this NPC will return players to the last PvE Town/Outpost/Mission they were in. This would probably be a much better solution. This way, if people in Embark hear "how do I get out of here?", we can all say "talk to <said NPC's name> on top of the hill". Just a thought 
I Rahavan I
/signed simply because it annoys me
LanaDarkess
/signed
This has always annoyed me, but I agree with having a mission OR having the exclamation removed after travelling there for the first time.
This has always annoyed me, but I agree with having a mission OR having the exclamation removed after travelling there for the first time.
AngelWJedi
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Originally Posted by Stimm
totally signed, i cant even count how many times Ive been in an outpost and saw an " ! " and thought oh look a quest and realized it was the travel guy.
I agree simple fix have them until you use them once and then their purpose is full filled, new or returning players learn about the map travel and its done with |
oh and /signed
wilebill
Stuck in Embark Beach. Lost in the Airport. Hysterical. I could point out some analogous moments from other mmo. Point is, I think players are capable of dealing with this. Most are going to figure it all out on their own.
Showtime
/signed because the voices told me to
JEVillen
/notquitesigned
Removing the exclamation point and just leaving them that way will be a little awkward, because they'll then receive the status of the extras - little kiddies, Kournan slaves, and Canthan peasants. I suggest instead that they be marked in some other way that doesn't scream "quest".
Idea 1: Different icon
There's lots of possibilities that can be recycled from the /zrank emote or any one of the Zaishen-specific items.
Idea 2: Name + square brackets
This is similar to every single other normal service NPC in towns. Just give them the format of "Joe IsMyName [Zaishen Scout]".
Removing the exclamation point and just leaving them that way will be a little awkward, because they'll then receive the status of the extras - little kiddies, Kournan slaves, and Canthan peasants. I suggest instead that they be marked in some other way that doesn't scream "quest".
Idea 1: Different icon
There's lots of possibilities that can be recycled from the /zrank emote or any one of the Zaishen-specific items.
Idea 2: Name + square brackets
This is similar to every single other normal service NPC in towns. Just give them the format of "Joe IsMyName [Zaishen Scout]".
Swingline
There needs to be an in game description for embark once the player gets there for the first time.
Green Sscythe
/signed because the force told me to
mrseasonalt
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Originally Posted by JEVillen
/notquitesigned
Removing the exclamation point and just leaving them that way will be a little awkward, because they'll then receive the status of the extras - little kiddies, Kournan slaves, and Canthan peasants. I suggest instead that they be marked in some other way that doesn't scream "quest". Idea 1: Different icon There's lots of possibilities that can be recycled from the /zrank emote or any one of the Zaishen-specific items. Idea 2: Name + square brackets This is similar to every single other normal service NPC in towns. Just give them the format of "Joe IsMyName [Zaishen Scout]". |
Make it a different symbol just like they do for Nightfall missions
Sagittario
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Originally Posted by JEVillen
Idea 2: Name + square brackets
This is similar to every single other normal service NPC in towns. Just give them the format of "Joe IsMyName [Zaishen Scout]". |
Missing HB
/signed but well, i don't believe it's really needed and will have a big incidence on the gameplay...
On the same resort, a big list of similar problems could be made..
On the same resort, a big list of similar problems could be made..
MithranArkanere
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Originally Posted by Sagittario
They'd rather be named Zaishen Scout [Embrak Beach Travel].
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Hanok Odbrook
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Originally Posted by JEVillen
/notquitesigned
Removing the exclamation point and just leaving them that way will be a little awkward, because they'll then receive the status of the extras - little kiddies, Kournan slaves, and Canthan peasants. I suggest instead that they be marked in some other way that doesn't scream "quest". Idea 1: Different icon There's lots of possibilities that can be recycled from the /zrank emote or any one of the Zaishen-specific items. Idea 2: Name + square brackets This is similar to every single other normal service NPC in towns. Just give them the format of "Joe IsMyName [Zaishen Scout]". |
Hanok
roachsrealm
just make them a different color or something.
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FalconDance
/notsigned
Come on, folks. You don't get instantaneous travel when you click on a Scout. There is a dialogue and you choose to travel or not.
All you have to do is pay attention.
Come on, folks. You don't get instantaneous travel when you click on a Scout. There is a dialogue and you choose to travel or not.
All you have to do is pay attention.
Outerworld
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Originally Posted by FalconDance
/notsigned
Come on, folks. You don't get instantaneous travel when you click on a Scout. There is a dialogue and you choose to travel or not. All you have to do is pay attention. |
MithranArkanere
Yup.
Just like the account-wide Zaishen Guide quests you can make just once, the Zaishen Scouts should have such a quest too.
Just like the account-wide Zaishen Guide quests you can make just once, the Zaishen Scouts should have such a quest too.
Black Metal
/signed
the convention with the green ! is that they are giving a quest. When I scan an outpost and see them, I'm expecting to pick up a quest. Since the mechanic is different for the scouts, so should the !
the convention with the green ! is that they are giving a quest. When I scan an outpost and see them, I'm expecting to pick up a quest. Since the mechanic is different for the scouts, so should the !
PsyBuster
/signed
Every time I'm in an outpost and see the " ! ", I get excited because it's a quest I didn't see before! But it's not...
Furthermore, once a player has traveled to Embark Beach, there could be a "Leave Embark Beach" button somewhere, that would transport them back to wherever they came from, similar to the "Leave Guild Hall" button.
Every time I'm in an outpost and see the " ! ", I get excited because it's a quest I didn't see before! But it's not...
Furthermore, once a player has traveled to Embark Beach, there could be a "Leave Embark Beach" button somewhere, that would transport them back to wherever they came from, similar to the "Leave Guild Hall" button.
Kada
/not signed
I've never once had any issue with being "accidentally" flung to Embark because of the Scouts, for the very reason that FalconDance posted.
If people are too silly to read what they're clicking when they see an exclamation point, well then maybe next time after they're inconvenienced they'll learn.
I've never once had any issue with being "accidentally" flung to Embark because of the Scouts, for the very reason that FalconDance posted.
If people are too silly to read what they're clicking when they see an exclamation point, well then maybe next time after they're inconvenienced they'll learn.