Frog Scepter Solo Farm

What about an R/A with whirling?

And the 1 hero thing, makes me cringe cuz I feel we are heading to 600/smite.

The point we are trying to make is that a solo run is just not worthwhile due to the time it would take, pcons used, and the headache of the randomness of Stormcloud spawns. I know that having multiple accounts is a luxury, but I believe that is the only way to do it in a fast and reasonable manner.

With that being said, if you were to continue down this line of thought I do not think you would be able to do enough damage to the Patriarch like Matt (Schnell) has said. The boss group has major interupts in the form of warmongers weapon, so a perma blind will be needed( unseen fury+smoke powder) to keep the melee from ruining your day. Just not enough skill slots for a solo runner......

What about the DL solo UWG build? It was some sort of tanking beast, with spammable dmg. Assuming you can get past the stormcloud, that might be possible, but you guys are avoiding the 1 hero idea. Y could you not bring one hero specc'd to help kill the final grps around Khaabus?

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[QUOTE=Genius Was Revrac;5610849]The point we are trying to make is that a solo run is just not worthwhile due to the time it would take, pcons used, and the headache of the randomness of Stormcloud spawns. I know that having multiple accounts is a luxury, but I believe that is the only way to do it in a fast and reasonable manner. QUOTE]

That is a matter of opinion sir.

This was obviously the wrong place to take the idea. I was expecting to have people bouncing ideas off each other, not people shooting it down at every turn. But it is the internet, should've seen it coming.

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What if you say party run you and your heros to stormclouds, then pull them away while ghost flagging heros past. Then run heros to next shrine, wipe, kill boss and proceed to Khaabus. I remeber ghost running my hero's to speedbook ATC, awhile back and it seemed that no monsters would spawn if you were dead. That true? I know they added pop-ups to that mission to prevent it from being done, but can you apply those same tactics to this? Just wondering....

With the DL UWG build I don't see it happening. Warmonger's at the end will interrupt, and Stormclouds will still strip enchants. If you do manage to get past the stormclouds, I still don't think there will be enough damage to kill anything.

I'm trying to not be so negative, but I don't think that this is a dungeon you can solo.

It is possible with A/Me.
Assasine Badarka (Ectoplazma TV from youtube) soloed that dungeon while I was leeching.It needs a lot of cons and pcons so its not profitable.
Ask him for details,but I think he wont give you build.

as others have already noted...soloing boggy takes more cons/pcons than it is worth....ie..even if you get a froggy 1-20runs...chances are you spent more on cons than the froggy and time are worth...there really are only 4 foes one needs to kill for chest....patriarch...khabuus and his 2 war buddies..ebon sniper and hexes say hi

that being said..you could alway use the lame dungeon running build for boggy and charge ppl for the run....ie...have them pay for your cons...and tbh they do the dmg...kinda a cheap way to do it but it works..only need 1 person to make it free for u

*edit just noticed the build in the vid is this cheap way...not the true solo

I agree about the run not being cost effective, but neither is solo DoA. I'm looking for a new challenge. TBH I'm not exactly pro or anything, but I noticed that almost all dungeons could be run by yourself, with bogroots being the exception. I guess the title is a little misleading by saying solo farm, but I look at it now as a matter of intrigue. Still hoping for people to bounce some ideas around..

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What about bringing a bonder? I've never done the 600/smite thing, but is it possible to apply that concept to this dungeon? i.e. You run te shrines and wipe when appropriate, have your smiter bond u up with the norm stuff and SoJ and jump into the boss grps (or small pulls) and add a little damage of your own, like wastrels and others? That possible without the bonder grabbing aggro?

Ok Daddy you are getting around to the idea that this is not a solo dungeon by suggesting bringing a bonding hero and you are correct about that aspect. However, bringing one hero still will not solve your problems. If you wanted to solo though with a full hero team, you can and should be able to do it. When you get to Khabuss just pull each of his individual groups away, and finish them off seperately. As far as only one hero and yourself, I dont see it as being possible. If you want to talk on TS/vent sometime and brainstorm, hit me up in game-Genius Was Revrac

Unless you want to run other people, I see no reason not to bring heroes. They don't steal Chest drops .

But yeah, Stormclouds shouldn't be the biggest problem, running past them is entirely possible.

That is exactly what I was thinking. Running people could pay for the cost of the cons used, but I was also looking for something to do by myself. My long-time SC guild has died, and my new one is good, but just not the same. I will be GWAMM and 50/50 Jan 1, by doing ZMissions, and I am looking for a little something to do. Last night I received the name of a guy who claims he can run all the dungeons, so if I can catch him online tonight I will see what he has to say on the idea, and I will surely pay him to run so I can watch and learn.

BTW: Getting past the incubi is now fairly easy. It sometimes takes 2 or 3 tries, but with only one cover enchant and a cupcake its much easier than advertised.

I give you props Daddy for being so persistent in trying to find a solo Froggy build, but I will continue to to dual account it with my buddy, and we will continue to finish the 2nd floor in 7 minutes, and we will keep bringing the Frogs to market. GL Daddy and I hope you have fun running ppl who sometimes wont pay, the overabundance of pcons, and the sheer time it will take you to complete the dungeon, in conjunction with the leechers leaving you high and dry.

Oh I also wanted to point out that you will have to get at least 50% of your party to the next shrine on floor 2 if your bringing pugs and charging for the run. So good luck getting them off the shrine on time and to the next one.......Daddy your in for a lot of angst and anger if you contiinue down the path of Solo running Froggy.

We don't care what you do. Talking about farming a froggie by yourself. Good for you that you have 2 accounts and are a gw god! My goodness you started this guild and now your in that other guild and that makes you awesome. Can I get back to theory crafting?

So anyone have legitimate ideas? And not personal stories?

Daddy your just not getting it are you.....YOU CANNOT SOLO RUN IT, and if you can it will not be worth the time and money spent. There is a reason NO ONE is responding to this thread because there is nothing to respond with. If you want to jump on my TS or vent server and talk like an adult, then hit me up in game. If you want to continue being ignorant of the situation, then by all means continue your futile effort.

Might work. Can ignore derv while running second floor (I think) til you get to the key boss. Will have to micro him heavily though. Pious haste is so he can run in and spike fast once he uses mop. Mop would be better on you so he could bring a shadow step, but I doubt you can kill the Khabuus then (that's what empathy is for).

Might want shadow santuary over dark escape depending on how well you can avoid incubus.

This'll use two essences, one each floor. You'll also probably use a bunch of clovers for the derv's dp. As such, it's unlikely this'll be a profitable farm, but could be fun for the sheer challenge.

I doubt a true solo farm is possible. Incubus are annoying, but warmongers and melee attackers are what really limit your choices.

Daddy - revrac is pointing out something , its something most players who do the dungeons know.Especially when it comes to runs - ive done in the past small runs like consulate docks and toa/Sc and every runner will tell you the same - Sometimes you get idiots who refuse to pay or vanish as soon as outpost/dungeon is done.
If you are prepared to post questions etc then be prepared for tons of critiscism off other players.

To Daddy :Revrac is not being arrogant, he is one really helpfull and skilled GW player. Simply pointing out to things that you do not see can be a bit tiresome.
Take his advice and bring in the froggies, because I have no doubt he is telling the truth that soloing cannot be done.

I might be missing the point here but why attempt soloing the dungeon it's not as if heroes nick your drops from the end chest!!!

Also with having 7H as your combo now you can afford to have 4 heroes running fall back. I have done this dungeon many times not fast 15mins for a HM run but I still average 1 froggy every 22 runs Also any tricky point I have a large damage output.

JUST DROP THE SOLO IT'S NOT WORTH THE HEADACHE

Finally someone has some helpful input. Might not be profitable to Solo it, and farm was definetly misleading, but I was looking for a new challenge. Thank you for the input, and I like the mini MoP spike... Its no problem to bring MoP for yourself... possibilities

But some of the comments lead me into a 7hero setup designed specifically for Bogroots. I would not be quick to say, just load the current meta and gg. There are tons of hexes and conditions to be found, as well as the opportunities for mega ball and spike around the bosses... Assuming you are playing a sin and run the first level, I'm wondering what could be quick and efficient as far as heros.

your gonna need atleast half a team of heros. kabuus has a high regen and lots of damage so you and 1 or 2 heros whacking on him is not going to take him down. try that 1 hero idea you find helpful and report back to us with your findings. then keep adding 1 more hero each time it fails untill you have enough to kill him and let us know how many it takes

even that video brought up earlier the guy says right at the begining SOLO. but its not look he has 5 heros and 2 other people running with him

Another alternative.

Should be easy to do boss key spike and big khabuus spike with the above. You will NOT be able to kill khabuus with just the mop spike. You'll have to micro the mesmer to cast empathy etc while she's under sf then move her back while you hold khabuus' aggro.

Recall on the heroes is to help you pull them far enough to activate the next shrine (in theory).

Bear in mind, with more than one hero, the shrine ressing could be a big problem.

Any more heroes than this and you might as well bring a full team. Heroes do NOT run well so you'll probably have to kill a few groups along the way, though if you have recall you might be able to "hold" aggro for them in a few places. Good skills to bring: incoming/fallback, we shall return, many copies of mop, barbs, eoe, explosive growth+aura of the lich, unyielding aura. On the plus side, you won't need cons.

I dont know why you dont just start a boggySC in vlox. Just grab 7 other sins (usually pretty easy if you say you have bu) and give them these builds:

http://www.gwpvx.com/Build:Team_-_Bogroots_Sinway

I know you dont have that solo feel but its more reliable to finish. No one can leech your chest drops either.

i would love to see this solo and ill even use the cons free for you to do it i added you ingame


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he showed me the "solo" even though he did not complete it i guess it is possible but definitely not worth the time/cost/headache of bad spawns. and still not possible to run people unless they dont want chest or you get lucky and have decent pugs who can shrine hop

Is soloing this even worth the effort? I had it down to around 25 total minutes with heroes and no cons.

there are many ways to do this dongeon with heros

here is a way i prefer to play becauste you can do it with every class without bus or cons and any sweets

it´ll take you about 15 min for the hole dongeon

it also works perfect for a frontliner vos or 100b instad of sos if you give

hydra mop(or self mop)