Hall of Monuments Titles

Hey guys,
I recently acquired 39/50 in my HoM (yay for me). Unfortunately, this cost me about 300e (all of my jingle) on top of what I already had (20/50).

In my honest opinion, the titles for GW2 are awkwardly made... I would say the following:
God Walking Amongst Mere Mortals > Legend of the Mists > Champion of the Gods > Ghostly Hero > Rift Warden > Flameseeker.
Flameseeker is a terrible title for 40/50! It makes me really not want to get 40/50.

I was never a title grinder and thus don't have GWAMM... in fact, I have like 8 statues in my HoM, one of which was Zaishen Supporter--this puts me on 11/18 at the moment (two more statues can get me to 40/50 overall).

My point is this... is it worth trying for Legend of the Mists (something I will find REALLY hard. I mean, 15 statues I can probably achieve... but 20 is impossible for me without serious help)...

I would need 10 more minis (easy really, just need to save up 100k for the fourth years :\), eight heroes, a phoenix and widow spider (not too hard, though the spider gives me pause)...

SO this is what I'm thinking: 10 more minis + 8 heroes + phoenix + widow spider = about 150k plus several hours of grinding (and UW runs).
15 statues (+2 to my HOM) = guardian for each, legendary guardian, prot of elona, lightbringer, sunspear titles (like a LOT of hours really)
So that's +4 which puts me to 43.
Now I need... OBSIDIAN? FML. It would be easier to get all vanquishers and delver... neither of which I have started.

Seriously, Obsidian? I hate my life...
So, getting to 45 is impossible for me without maybe a hundred, possibly two hundred hours of grinding.
8/8, 8/8, 14/18, 8/8, 7/8...

My question is this, really. I think it will be tough for me to get 45/50 with my lack of titles as it is--though it is possible if I'm given several months. I'm at 39/50 and I prefer Ghostly Hero FAR MORE than Flameseeker (wtf? Lame).

IN Guild Wars 2, will I be able to switch between Flameseeker (8) and Ghostly Hero (7), or will it be like the GWAMM system, where it overtakes the previous title? I would hate to get 40/50 and not be able to further progress and then be stuck with crappy Flameseeker :\ that said, I do want 40/50 for the prestige of 40/50... which is stupid...

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Alternatively, check my name out in the HoM (if you have time)
http://hom.guildwars2.com/en/#page=m...AAAhKEIAAAAAAA

and let me know if you can think of the easiest ways to get 6 more! (please don't suggest Obsidian or I will die inside.)

I don't know the answer to your question, but you can always just work towards your HoM (collecting titles and minis/pets/heroes) but don't dedicate them in the Hall yet until you're confident you can jump from 39 to 45, which you want.

Then once GW2 releases and you find out if we can choose the title to display, you can always just dedicate stuff into your Hall to maximize points -- whether 40/50 or 44/50 or whatever.

True... didn't think of that. It just seems so hard to get what you need unless you previously had at least a rank in the GWAMM title (which I do not).
Another question... is it possible to complete UW, Urgoz, DoA, etc. quickly with just heroes? Or is it something you need to have a group for and if you don't have a certain build they rage at you (lol)?
I just want to finish all those, add SS and LB (im r9 SS and r8 LB so I'm close-ish)
Possible or not?

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HoM is like the richter scale... getting a 2.0 on the richter scale is easy. 3.0 is ten times as hard. 4.0 is a hundred times as hard... 5.0 is a thousand times as difficult.

There will be lots of titles in GW 2. Do any of these HoM titles compare with Veteran Chipmonk? No, everyone will want the VC and will not even know what the HoM titles mean.

Regarding displaying any rank, they haven't said. BUT many people in gw have asked about being able to show previous ranks, just with your true rank number displayed next to it. Although we don't know how gw2 titles/achievements will work, I'd surprised if they didn't allow such a thing. Considering all the rank are reminders of gw1 etc, I'm sure everyone has a different favorite regardless of their rank. e.g. I'm sure people may want to display "Guild Warrior" at 10pts but still want all the reward items, and I doubt ANet will force them to make the choice of what they want more. As mentioned, you could always wait to dedicate the stuff, as I am sure they will tell us more in the coming months.

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Looking at what you have I would say:
+10 mini's =(+1) = 40pts
+10heros =(+1) = 41pts
2 cheap eotn armors = (+1) = 42pts

12 more title statues = (+3) = 45

For the titles do:
- leg guardian. Can do the daily ZQ with others, earn cash etc. REMEMBER that there is rep bonuses for NF missions now and there are also rep books for NF and the Young hero handbooks. This can get you (from prot NF, guardian NF + young hero's handbook) about 20k rep point for either...

-LB & sunspear. Do both, but hopefully the rep from the above books + missions will take care of one (sunspear would be my pick).

-Do all the remaining elite areas. Sorrows is an easy 2hrs henching NM. Urgoz/deep both have zbounty days. DoA you can do with glaiveway. It will also earn you some nice rep for your LB title hence why i suggested using books on SS. UW is pretty much meta or no go, but you could just buy a run if you can't run/don't have the required builds.

Strangely, I just tried and can't get Normal books for NF... maybe because I'm above r8 on both? (Can't get SS or LB bounties in normal mode :\). Thanks though, I will do the rest you said.

Wilebill has it on the nosey. We will all run around for a week or two with our noses in the air, showing off our accomplishment in GW2. We will see someone with a NEW title and all of a sudden our old and busted isn't good enough anymore.

FAQs are your friend... http://hom.guildwars2.com/en/faq/

According to the FAQ each title accomplished Via HoM is a separate title in guild wars 2... To all the accomplishment goers out there this is important to note they may count each title as a max title in a max title track.

Hopefully they do, as it would give us an advantage by (up to) 11 max titles (GWAMM + 50 HOM) over new players in the GW series.

Hey there

I was in the same boat as you almost a year ago. I bought the GW Trilogy simply to earn HoM points. After hitting 30 points, I figured I could get 35 points fairly easily. The question was whether it was possible to obtain 45 points or not. If the answer was no, then I would have just stopped at 35, because I felt the title for 40 sucked.

How did it turn out in the end? Well I managed to obtain my 45 HoM points, and it took me a total of 2.5 months starting from scratch. Here's my advise:

10 more minis, 10 more heroes, and 2 more armours. I'm sure you figured out this part by now. You also have the choice of either 7 more titles + Obsidian, or 12 titles. I went the Obsidian route because I used to farm 60k / hour, and I figured Obsidian would only take me 20 hours whereas 5 titles could potentially take longer. But in hindsight, 15 titles would have been easier to obtain

Here are the quickest 12 titles you should aim for:

These 5 titles can be obtained by finishing the dungoen
Eternal Conqueror of Sorrow's Furnace
Eternal Conqueror of the Deep
Eternal Conqueror of Urgoz's Warren
Eternal Conqueror of the Underworld
Eternal Conqueror of the Domain of Anguish

These 4 titles don't need to be maxed:
Eternal Lucky & Eternal Unlucky (About 90k and 40 hours AFK during Canthan New Year)
Eternal Saviour of the Luxons (4.5 hours on double faction weekend)
Eternal Saviour of the Kurzricks (4.5 hours on double faction weekend)

Remaining 3 titles (any 3)
Guardian of Cantha
Protector of Elona
Guardian of Elona
Guardian of Tyria

You can take a look at my HoM here too: http://hom.guildwars2.com/en/#page=m...AAAkUMIAAAAAAA

I only have a total of 5 maxed titles, but 15 total HoM titles.

^^ Nope, they are merely STATUES, and NOT titles.

In any case, titles are there to pursue or not as an individual sees fit, so do them or don't

I agree with the above... it's not that big of a deal. I got 50/50 by going from
one to the next as I had time.

I was planning on 30/50, but once I got there I thought "What the hell" and went
for the other 20 (actually 23 and working on 2 more). You just go from one to
the next. If it's too much trouble.... just don't do it.

It's not like "OMFG" I spent all my ectos, which are just pretend game money...
now I have to spend my retirement in poverty. The game is almost over. Spend your
resources to get what you want.

I was able to do UW and DoA with heroes. There's a useful UW thread in the Elite End-Game section of the forums, which enabled me to finish UW quite easily for the statue. Urgoz has a max party of 12, so it's hard (but I heard doable) to do by yourself. I waited for Urgoz to appear on ZBounty and partied with people.

SS and LB can be completed solely through vanquish (and books and ZQuest rewards to supplement). The same goes for the 4 EoTN allegiance titles. No need to go out of your way to farm points, in my opinion. Only Kurz/Lux (sigh).

Put that way, kinda makes me want the HoM titles more :P

I'd be interested to find out how titles will change in GW2, actually. I think the GW community has already made enough noise as to how title hunting is such a grind, which GW as a game wants to avoid. Specifically, the Kind of a Big Deal track. Or is its prestige as an accomplishment scale for "veterans" (a.k.a. people with loads of time on their hands) still worth having it? Anyway, OT.

lol really? what noise?... must of missed that day... and yes... if you enjoy playing the game, yes it is worth having.... if you don't enjoy it you don't have to have it.... if your patient and smart about it... there is not a single title that you HAVE to grind out... play smart not hard.

I've made it to 46 just play playing and aquiring things over the past 6+ years. Only things left on my list are Money sinks like the PvP Zaishen Keys & Obsidian Armour (never was into Power Trading or SC's so don't have alot of cash).

Just play the game rather than focusing on the titles and you will find it much eaiser.

Even if you don't finish your HoM you can still add to it after GW2 is released.

I think I'll be wayyyy too busy aiming for the top GW2 titles.
It's a pity that GW2 probably won't come out until my school year is near close and I start my Gap Year in the ADF--I probably won't have time for GW2

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Also, I assume PvP and Obby are the only things you need? In which case, I actually recommend you try for the Zaishen title (if you don't already have a PvP title)...
Obsidian Armour is stupid unless you like the look and are willing to pay for it (I wouldn't, except maybe for the ele male armour)...

But Zaishen Supporter was actually fun for me. I got it slowly, and probably only ended up spending a few hundred plat on it (as opposed to if you bought the whole thing straight up).
I got most of that back when I found a q9 voltaic spear...

Remember, you only need rank 3 (200 keys)! So, yes, that sounds like over 100e, but it's possible to find some decent stuff to get most of that back (if not more)!

3 things as explanation:

-Why titles are named as they are: Tastes differ. Someone at Anet ranked the title names "by awesome" as above, not everyone will agree. Hell, I remember my own dislike for the GWAMM title names (named after quotes for a movie I had never seen and don't like...) Remember that you can always display a lesser title.

-Why such high requirements: Law of diminishing returns. Anet don't want to force us into hard grind, so they gave most rewards for a certain amount of work, attainable by most, some more for those who are willing to work hard and then they made the last rewards titles only so people don't feel forced to grind forever for them. Power to the masses. (whether this is a good thing or a bad thing will be a matter of opinion).

-I got to 50/50, and the thing I wanted most, I got way earlier - the raccoon

I finally got my 50/50 in HoM. I am 3 titles away from my GWAMM, but I doubt that I will get it anytime soon, no biggie at least I have my 50/50

This is why they should add more cosmetic rewards in the HoM 'till 50.
(pets, hats or clothes)

They've taken up so much time to create a HoM system since before EoTN came out, just to put up non-title rewards for 30 simple points.

Why did they even make a 50 points HoM instead of cutting it at 30 ?

I really wish they would change their mind on this.