January 2012 Flux
Ariena Najea
Xinrae's Revenge - When you successfully activate a skill, it is disabled for 3 seconds for all members of your party and the opposing party who are in the area and also have it on their skill bars.
Update on RBR and DA:
Update on RBR and DA:
Olle
"nerfing" the ele's before the update eaven hits?
nice
nice
hitsuji182
Go W/Mo
Take Guardian and Patient Spirit
Fight Monk
TROLOLO
Also, imagine snowballs with this flux, lmao
Take Guardian and Patient Spirit
Fight Monk
TROLOLO
Also, imagine snowballs with this flux, lmao
urania
does it make one lose adren by reseting the skill?
Ariena Najea
DiogoSilva
You have to go for diversity, or get trolled by/ troll the other players.
urania
that is not ok.
Still Number One
At first I thought this was dumb. After looking at some builds ran last mAT, I think I am starting to like it.
Dual Invoke teams and Dervs with similar bars are now useless, especially for spiking. Teams will now need 8 different skill bars in order to be effective which promotes build diversity and limits gimmicks. 3 seconds doesn't seem long enough to try to build your skillbars around trying to shutdown enemies (warriors/dervishes bringing monk skills, which is a dumb idea regardless because it effects your monk too). You could make cool plays shutting down an opponent running a similar build though (invoke ele for one team using invoke in anticipation of an enemy spike, thus limiting enemy damage).
Overall it seems like it could be frustrating, but it has potential to do more positive effects than negative I suppose. Random formats, like RA, JQ, and FA will be annoying however with bad teammates with similar skillbars completely limiting your effectiveness.
Dual Invoke teams and Dervs with similar bars are now useless, especially for spiking. Teams will now need 8 different skill bars in order to be effective which promotes build diversity and limits gimmicks. 3 seconds doesn't seem long enough to try to build your skillbars around trying to shutdown enemies (warriors/dervishes bringing monk skills, which is a dumb idea regardless because it effects your monk too). You could make cool plays shutting down an opponent running a similar build though (invoke ele for one team using invoke in anticipation of an enemy spike, thus limiting enemy damage).
Overall it seems like it could be frustrating, but it has potential to do more positive effects than negative I suppose. Random formats, like RA, JQ, and FA will be annoying however with bad teammates with similar skillbars completely limiting your effectiveness.
Olle
FA&JQ will be fun.
StormDragonZ
So let's say I use Arcane Larceny/Thievery and steal a Monk spell. If I then use that Monk spell, it would cause the flux effect, right?
Also, are NPCs affected by this?
Also, are NPCs affected by this?
Fluffy Kittens
probably the best flux so far
/me gusta
/me gusta
makosi
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So let's say I use Arcane Larceny/Thievery and steal a Monk spell. If I then use that Monk spell, it would cause the flux effect, right?
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Edit: Now it's clear why they waited until Snowballing was over....
Mr Markiisi
The sad thing about this flux is that it will nearly completely destroy Dragon Arena. The arena is just too small for this flux, since the effect is "in the area." In addition it discourages close-range dodges, so longballs might get popular.
And... the saddest part is that when your team wipes and the enemy team has surrounded your res shrine, you have no way to defeat the enemy team with only 1 dragon blast + 1 winds every 3 seconds. It's not enough to push the enemy team away. If the enemy team happens to be a sync team, it's instant defeat.
After the december flux I certainly was not expecting an even more horrible flux. The flux ruined snowball and the ats was a joke. Last 2 days were pure nostalgia. Gotta give Anet a little credit for trying so hard to defile event games.
Dragon Arena is already ruined, so now I'm looking forward into April. Then will be the next Dragon Arena event and HOPEFULLY anet has realized, by then, how silly these fluxes are in special event minigames.
1st post btw. And you may wonder why.
And... the saddest part is that when your team wipes and the enemy team has surrounded your res shrine, you have no way to defeat the enemy team with only 1 dragon blast + 1 winds every 3 seconds. It's not enough to push the enemy team away. If the enemy team happens to be a sync team, it's instant defeat.
After the december flux I certainly was not expecting an even more horrible flux. The flux ruined snowball and the ats was a joke. Last 2 days were pure nostalgia. Gotta give Anet a little credit for trying so hard to defile event games.
Dragon Arena is already ruined, so now I'm looking forward into April. Then will be the next Dragon Arena event and HOPEFULLY anet has realized, by then, how silly these fluxes are in special event minigames.
1st post btw. And you may wonder why.
Martin Alvito
Good job trashing Rollerbeetle Racing, ANet. Every race will start with people mashing 2 and 3 at start.
CE Devilman
so..no z-trapping the next 30 days
lemming
makosi
Oh, Chinese New Year is 23rd January and Canthan New Year always falls in alignment with it. So, as already mentioned, Dragon Arena and RBR will be worse than ever.
Martin Alvito
Polgara Val
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It's a great idea, but the timing of its implementation is terrible. RBR already has enough ping wars problems at the start, and DA will be straight up unplayable.
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Its unreal how bad the ping is during Canthan New Year, the flux is a good idea but heck theres no big events happening in February why not do it then? Obviously Anet are trying to make Dragon Arena, Rollerbeetle Racing and PvP more of a challenge but in truth its going to be awfull and downright unplayable/frustrating, if isint that already for most players because of ping issues.
Well see how things pan out but its completely ruined that event from both the DA and RBR players perspectives. Great timing Anet.
Pol
coil
wilson
It looks bad at first but played some and turns out it is actually very fun. Gives the game a new "dimension" really.
Skyy High
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It's a great idea, but the timing of its implementation is terrible. RBR already has enough ping wars problems at the start, and DA will be straight up unplayable.
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First thought: "Wow, this sounds fun!"
After reading thread: "RBR and DA are gonna get f***ed..."
Vincent Evan
Very interesting flux.
jazilla
This just promotes botting in RBR more. You can't be annoyed for what you aren't at your computer for.
Shayne Hawke
lursey
nice flux direction~!
Horace Slughorn
Anet held off on implementing the january flux until after snowball ATs were finished. Perhaps this means they are sensitive to the festival game-playing community and will address flux as needed during canthan new year... we can only hope
Kunder
Anet can certainly selectively disable/enable fluxes for whatever minigame they like. I don't think we should start worrying about that TOO much.
Its certainly an interesting change for PvP. Is it going to affect AB properly since there are 3 separate teams for each side though?
Its certainly an interesting change for PvP. Is it going to affect AB properly since there are 3 separate teams for each side though?
Mr Markiisi
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Anet held off on implementing the january flux until after snowball ATs were finished. Perhaps this means they are sensitive to the festival game-playing community and will address flux as needed during canthan new year... we can only hope
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+ https://forum.guildwars.com/forum/fo...s/Flux-missing
They said it was a bug/error/whatever. It was not intentional.
Shayne Hawke
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Anet can certainly selectively disable/enable fluxes for whatever minigame they like.
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You say that like the Flux we had for Snowball was a bad thing.
Mr Markiisi
jazilla
Would you rather be annoyed by skills being disabled in RBR while playing, or would you rather have your bot that can't get annoyed because it's a bot deal with it? I don't know why I care actually as I stopped doing RBR a few years back. My ping isn't good enough to crack the top ten. I got Numchuck Skillz and stopped.
Kunder
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What they can do is not always what they will intend to do. People should certainly continue to make a fuss about this.
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Oh yes it was. The flux was just so awful. It rewarded people who got lucky spawns and people who didn't know how to DnD. Also Dwayna was clearly too overpowered with the flux.
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It might not advantage bots in a specific match (though bots can certainly spam their skills faster to lock out humans if need be). The main concern I have (or would have if I cared about rollerbeatles) is that random skill disabling makes the final race time even more random. Increased randomness = increased advantage to those who race more times, and Bots are of course able to race 24/7 until the rare odds win out. You can therefore expect getting into the leaderboards without botting to be even harder and require more luck/team stacking.
Polgara Val
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Would you rather be annoyed by skills being disabled in RBR while playing, or would you rather have your bot that can't get annoyed because it's a bot deal with it? I don't know why I care actually as I stopped doing RBR a few years back. My ping isn't good enough to crack the top ten. I got Numchuck Skillz and stopped.
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Incidentally if you dont care about RBR then there is no reason to complain about it no?
Pol
MisterB
I hardly think Zaishen arenas are a concern for Flux effects, but regardless, only one trapper is necessary for blowing up Zaishen Elite with traps. Flux will have no effect on the single trapper in the team. Other 3 party slots are free, and may even be filled with Zaishen hench.
Fluffy Kittens
This flux obviously wont be in the rollerbeetle, simply because it would make it unplayable.
So, since they have to disable it for rollerbeetle they'll probably disable it for DA too. There's no need to panic.
So, since they have to disable it for rollerbeetle they'll probably disable it for DA too. There's no need to panic.
jiggles
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This flux obviously wont be in the rollerbeetle, simply because it would make it unplayable.
So, since they have to disable it for rollerbeetle they'll probably disable it for DA too. There's no need to panic. |
Anet don't care.
Polgara Val
St??phane Lo Presti
I discussed with the Live Team to clarify the matter and can confirm that January's flux will not impact Dragon Arena and Rollerbeetle Racing.