If you haven't heard it, it might be the end of desktops as we know it! Microsoft as we know it is introducing windows 8 as an operating system with touch mechanisms meant for tablets and laptop hybrids. I am not sure what's going on with desktops.
see more: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/upgrade-...181655490.html
My question to the guild wars community is what do you think? would you play guild wars on your current desktop or on one of these hybrids?
If I had a poll what would you prefer windows 8 should be on:
A) Desktop
B) Laptop (Hybrid)
C) Desktop and Laptop (Hybrid)
D) Tablet
How touchy Microsoft windows 8 going to be?
Junato
rb.widow
Your worrying about nothing, MS dominates home computing for software, and will for many years to come, but it only makes sense as 1 of the biggest software developers to get into a market that is up and coming, and tablets are all the rage at the moment, hense there windows 8 ( touch screen )
I dont see tablets doing away with home desktops/laptops any time in the foreseeable future.
I dont see tablets doing away with home desktops/laptops any time in the foreseeable future.
enter_the_zone
I can see touchscreens eventually replacing the mouse as the pointing device of choice, but it won't be widespread for at least a decade for home PC's due to the cost implications.
cosyfiep
I can only hope it dies the same horrible death that vista did.
I for one wont be using them...I have a keyboard and know how to use is as well as a mouse! (not to mention my hubby is in IT--he has expressed concerns that we are backtracking with these kinds of things).
I for one wont be using them...I have a keyboard and know how to use is as well as a mouse! (not to mention my hubby is in IT--he has expressed concerns that we are backtracking with these kinds of things).
enter_the_zone
Touchscreens have a place. Admittedly, it's mostly in kiosks, EPOS, smartphones and tablets. What I actually expect to happen in the next decade is a much refined version of something like Kinect, coupled with 3d screens. Or, and this is at the very fringe of likelyhood currently due to cost, 3d holographic projection.
Junato
I've started reading more into windows 8 and yeah there will be no business software for windows 8. It's software is purely for the consumer. It's a flop compared to apple.
Microsoft has no taste or culture when developing new software.
Microsoft has no taste or culture when developing new software.
Franco Power
Have any of you used Windows 8 yet?
There's a free image available for anyone to download right now which is aimed at Software developers. Microsoft has not done away with desktop style OS, you can have both, you can have the option of using your operating system like a tablet or you can switch to desktop view and keep using it like you have before. Windows 8 is a very good operating system at the moment and it's still very early to determine it's final product.
I thought hating on Microsoft wasn't cool any more.
There's a free image available for anyone to download right now which is aimed at Software developers. Microsoft has not done away with desktop style OS, you can have both, you can have the option of using your operating system like a tablet or you can switch to desktop view and keep using it like you have before. Windows 8 is a very good operating system at the moment and it's still very early to determine it's final product.
I thought hating on Microsoft wasn't cool any more.
Junato
Hate is too much of a strong word. It may sound like I hate Microsoft, but really I just don't like their style. I will continue to use their products like the xbox and OS.
Bottom line, there is two ways of knowing what you like about the company. One way is the products and services. The other, is their approach and philosophy. Apple has these ways secured like peanut butter and jelly. Microsoft, well Microsoft is just Microsoft.
Bottom line, there is two ways of knowing what you like about the company. One way is the products and services. The other, is their approach and philosophy. Apple has these ways secured like peanut butter and jelly. Microsoft, well Microsoft is just Microsoft.
Franco Power
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Hate is too much of a strong word. It may sound like I hate Microsoft, but really I just don't like their style. I will continue to use their products like the xbox and OS.
Bottom line, there is two ways of knowing what you like about the company. One way is the products and services. The other, is their approach and philosophy. Apple has these ways secured like peanut butter and jelly. Microsoft, well Microsoft is just Microsoft. |
Do you even know what you're talking about? Apple is probably one of the worst technology companies in the world, from law suits, touchy user agreements, trade secrets, conspiracies of torture, etc, they are pure evil, not to mention they're so called leader has never given a penny to charity.
Microsoft on the other hand, is the opposite of that... Stop living in the 1980s/90s please.
Bishop200
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You must be joking right?
Do you even know what you're talking about? Apple is probably one of the worst technology companies in the world, from law suits, touchy user agreements, trade secrets, conspiracies of torture, etc, they are pure evil, not to mention they're so called leader has never given a penny to charity. Microsoft on the other hand, is the opposite of that... Stop living in the 1980s/90s please. |
Junato
Franco I wasn't even born or knew how to use computers at that time frame. Maybe, you know too much about what you know about that time with Apple, but I don't. If you do bring up the articles I would love to read them to prove your side of the story.
Did I say anything offensive that is due from lack of knowledge? Microsoft is run by Steve Ballmer now. I have respect for Bill Gates, but when he left, he left with his vision and design. I have no clue what the effect of Steve Ballmer will have on Microsoft. As for windows 8 it's hard to explain.
If they do come out with touch screen monitors for desktops I rather have the mouse and keyboard and a plain monitor. I am not a fan of touch screens. Do you know how many people don't wash their hands after using the washroom, bite their fingernails, pick their nose, scratch their behind, cough on their hand etc. and touch these devices?
I am not bias when talking about technology, but when it comes to ergonomics and cleanliness there is certain technology i stay away from.
Did I say anything offensive that is due from lack of knowledge? Microsoft is run by Steve Ballmer now. I have respect for Bill Gates, but when he left, he left with his vision and design. I have no clue what the effect of Steve Ballmer will have on Microsoft. As for windows 8 it's hard to explain.
If they do come out with touch screen monitors for desktops I rather have the mouse and keyboard and a plain monitor. I am not a fan of touch screens. Do you know how many people don't wash their hands after using the washroom, bite their fingernails, pick their nose, scratch their behind, cough on their hand etc. and touch these devices?
I am not bias when talking about technology, but when it comes to ergonomics and cleanliness there is certain technology i stay away from.
Draca
Windows 8 is 100% enhanced for touch until you flip the switch and make it just like Windows 7. The base inter face makes no sense at all with mouse a example is clicking and swiping up to log in.
Viiralicious
You can turn off metro.
The touch interface work just fine with mouse.
Win8 consumer preview is 10 times snappier then Win7, at least on my pc.
The touch interface work just fine with mouse.
Win8 consumer preview is 10 times snappier then Win7, at least on my pc.
Showtime
A decade ago, I remember seeing someone moving pictures around and adjusting the size, adding things, removing things, etc. He was standing, using a panel on a podium, and his work was being shown on a big monitor. I thought it was the neatest thing. Nowadays, with phones to tablets, it's normal. I expect this to eventually be as intuitive as using those.
The questions for me is how much will larger touch panels cost, what will be comfortable position for it, kb, and mouse...?
It probably wont be as bad as vista. But there will be bugs! Many, many, many bugs. It's MS!
Can't Wait.
The questions for me is how much will larger touch panels cost, what will be comfortable position for it, kb, and mouse...?
It probably wont be as bad as vista. But there will be bugs! Many, many, many bugs. It's MS!
Can't Wait.
Riot Narita
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Originally Posted by enter_the_zone
I can see touchscreens eventually replacing the mouse as the pointing device of choice, but it won't be widespread for at least a decade for home PC's due to the cost implications.
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Greasy sausages (fingers) are just hoplessly slow and innacurate pointing devices, compared to using a mouse. They also obscure what you're working on, on the screen.
They're fine for toy computers like tablets, running dumbed-down-for-touchscreens software (ie. "apps")... but tablets are a very SMALL fraction of the computer market.
Try convincing say, office workers (a very LARGE fraction of the computer market) to either wave their arms at their desktop monitors, or hunch over a tablet display... all day, every day... to do their email, word processing, spreadsheets, photoshop, web design, programming, etc etc. It's just not gonna work.
Touchscreens may be dead or priced out of the consumer market in 5 years or so anyway... unless they either a) find a new wonder material to replace Indium Tin Oxide (ITO), that is as cheap, transparent, conductive, robust and manufacturing-friendly or b) make existing alternative materials economically and industrially viable, etc.
(worldwide indium supplies are expected to be exhausted by 2020, so the race is on to find a replacement material - otherwise prices of touchscreens and everything else dependent on ITO will rise dramatically, well before 2020).
Anyway, I'll be playing GW2 on a desktop computer. There's no place for touchie stuff here, it would suck.
Junato
well Said ^
Just want to add to that, this technology will never go well with the fast-paced keyboard and mouse. Its faster to get things done with keyboard and mouse than the old fingers on display. (Shamwow all over again)
Just want to add to that, this technology will never go well with the fast-paced keyboard and mouse. Its faster to get things done with keyboard and mouse than the old fingers on display. (Shamwow all over again)
Riot Narita
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Originally Posted by Junato
Do you know how many people don't wash their hands after using the washroom, bite their fingernails, pick their nose, scratch their behind, cough on their hand etc. and touch these devices?
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Junato
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Originally Posted by Riot Narita
Err... you do realise that in the absence of a touchscreen, those same dirty people will use your keyboard and mouse instead?
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Tarun
So far I've not been impressed with Windows 8. Don't care for the Metro UI either.
lovely_necromancer
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You do realize that the personal computer (PC) is a desktop and (is meant to be personal) even so they would have to get allowed in my home to use it.
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Quaker
I can't see touch-screens replacing mouse + keyboard for gaming any time soon, except for things on the level of Tetris or Angry Birds.
Maybe, if you plugged a game console type controller into a tablet, it might approach usable, but then it wouldn't be using touch either.
Just imagine trying to play GW1 or 2 on a touchscreen tablet. You'd basically have to use both hands, while simultaneously trying to hold it in position where you can see it properly. *Shudder*
Edit - plus having your hands blocking the much of the screen.
There could be some nice things about using touch controls to select a game and start it up, etc, but you are going to want something better than touch controls to actually play any serious game.
Maybe, if you plugged a game console type controller into a tablet, it might approach usable, but then it wouldn't be using touch either.
Just imagine trying to play GW1 or 2 on a touchscreen tablet. You'd basically have to use both hands, while simultaneously trying to hold it in position where you can see it properly. *Shudder*
Edit - plus having your hands blocking the much of the screen.
There could be some nice things about using touch controls to select a game and start it up, etc, but you are going to want something better than touch controls to actually play any serious game.
Junato
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Originally Posted by lovely_necromancer
Wouldn't the touchscreen computer be also at your home?
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Windows 8 is worthless if you are going to install it on your keyboard and mouse computer.
Quaker
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Windows 8 is worthless if you are going to install it on your keyboard and mouse computer.
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)Windows 8 is just the next version of Windows, it's not a separate version that won't work on older systems. There are apparently SKUs of the system that will be compiled to work on ARM cpus and/or tablets, etc, but they will all be just varieties of Windows 8.
This is not new - there was, for example, a version of Windows XP which was compiled to run on Itanium CPUs. And, Windows NT was compiled for several different systems.
Just like most computers come with some flavour of Windows 7 today, computers will come with Windows 8 tomorrow.
Also, of course, things like this:
http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/...1b148b1 8en02
are already available and a perfect candidate for windows 8
Leman
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If its mobile its not "meant" to stay at your home. Either way, Windows 8 is an OS that is suited for people on the go. Which, I already discussed earlier.
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Your opinion has become worthless the moment you started hating.
Let me tell you the truth - I'm older than you. I've used both MacOS and Windows. I consider myself a poweruser. I read blogs and watch technology podcasts. I have downloaded the Windows 8 Consumer Preview the very night it went live and have used it since then. And I'm actually fond of the experience.
Your problem is, you base what you're writing (I won't call it your opinion, because you clearly don't have one) on few looks from outside, probably some poor quality article. You can't call something worthless jut because you think so, especially if you have NO CLUE about the object of the debate.
And for goodness sake - it's a beta version.
Junato
Leman I don't hate the product. I said It's worthless on keyboard and mouse computer meaning its good on tablets, touch type devices. I have read all the pros and cons and what I find it is not that great on keyboard and mouse devices, since there are some navigational issues. However, it is just fine on touch-type devices since all settings are preset for it.
If you want to change settings on your computer (Keyboard and mouse) it is quite difficult to navigate. However, like you said it is only a beta, whether they fix it or not its up to them. I am just discussing what is going on now.
AND PEOPLE PLEASE IT MAY SOUND LIKE I AM HATING ON THE PROGRAM, BUT I AM NOT. I AM JUST TRYING TO BE PRAGMATIC WITH THE PROGRAM. AI CARAMBA!
If you want to change settings on your computer (Keyboard and mouse) it is quite difficult to navigate. However, like you said it is only a beta, whether they fix it or not its up to them. I am just discussing what is going on now.
AND PEOPLE PLEASE IT MAY SOUND LIKE I AM HATING ON THE PROGRAM, BUT I AM NOT. I AM JUST TRYING TO BE PRAGMATIC WITH THE PROGRAM. AI CARAMBA!
Nerel
Windows 8 Pro and Windows 8 Enterprise... not for business, aimed solely at consumers... you're not hatin' just being pragmatic.
FUD. RDF to full effect!
FUD. RDF to full effect!