I was in LA last ngiht and there were maybe 20 people compared to the hundreds that use to be there. I find that a lot of places now that had 10-100+ people at any given time now have 1-20+ people. I know the holiday is coming up and there will be like 700+ people on at any one time.
Is GW Dying - dead?
Is GW Done?
a-kyle
spacedkadet
Winding down is probably the right choice, a lot less folk about but enough still that you can find a group relativly quickly. I would imagine most people have played enough now and are just popping on now and then whilst waiting on gw2,, there are still some new people coming that haveheard about gw2 and decided to buy gw1 for hom but they do not make up for the people who have stopped.
Iuris
Everything alive is technically dieing, all the time.
GW1 is a 6 year old game, what do people expect? Of course the playerbase is shrinking, especially in times when there is no new content.
Amazingly, this is working as intended - the game's business model is based upon a one time payment, so it's expected that people will play it and then stop when it stops being fun. This isn't a game that wants to keep you wasting your time on empty pursuits just to get a monthly out of you.
GW1 is a 6 year old game, what do people expect? Of course the playerbase is shrinking, especially in times when there is no new content.
Amazingly, this is working as intended - the game's business model is based upon a one time payment, so it's expected that people will play it and then stop when it stops being fun. This isn't a game that wants to keep you wasting your time on empty pursuits just to get a monthly out of you.
Kamara
* People are still playing, working on HoMs, getting ready for festivals.
* There may be less grouping going on in towns, but a lot of activity is in guilds or 7 heroes.
* People playing are generally.... playing. So you wont see those.
A lot of people are in a sort of lull, waiting either for GW2 or waiting for a date. I know a lot of my guildies are gonna come back to finish their HoMs once GW2's got a release date or open beta date. I'm sure they're not alone.
It's declining, but it's almost a 7 year old game. There's still life in it if you know where to look!
* There may be less grouping going on in towns, but a lot of activity is in guilds or 7 heroes.
* People playing are generally.... playing. So you wont see those.
A lot of people are in a sort of lull, waiting either for GW2 or waiting for a date. I know a lot of my guildies are gonna come back to finish their HoMs once GW2's got a release date or open beta date. I'm sure they're not alone.
It's declining, but it's almost a 7 year old game. There's still life in it if you know where to look!
vader
I haven't played since SWTOR came out. I logged on to get the Wintersday hats and that was it. I'll probably log on to get this weekend's mask and mini but then it will be right back to SWTOR for me.
Yol
What district of LA were you in? I suspect it wasn't the American district.
a-kyle
You would think with some of the latest updates, like the dervish, the canthian story and the elementalist that the player base would come back...
Actually it was...i was on at about 9pm mountian time if that helps
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Actually it was...i was on at about 9pm mountian time if that helps
MithranArkanere
Nope. It's not done yet, they are still doing it. Quite literally.
Of course there's less people, but GW is far from done.
Before, those 100 people were sitting there idling. They had already finished the game, they were not in the mood for PvP, some were trading, other just socializing, others AFK...
Now, the traders are went to Kamadan, those 'socializing' went to Shing Jea, those AFK are often in their guild halls, and those tired of PvP are playing other games.
The rest is filling their HoM in explorable areas and missions, where you can't see them.
If people used the Embark Beach as intended and everyone that is idling for whatever reason went there, then you'll see it more clearly.
Of course there's less people, but GW is far from done.
Before, those 100 people were sitting there idling. They had already finished the game, they were not in the mood for PvP, some were trading, other just socializing, others AFK...
Now, the traders are went to Kamadan, those 'socializing' went to Shing Jea, those AFK are often in their guild halls, and those tired of PvP are playing other games.
The rest is filling their HoM in explorable areas and missions, where you can't see them.
If people used the Embark Beach as intended and everyone that is idling for whatever reason went there, then you'll see it more clearly.
cosyfiep
LA??? kamadan is where people hang out (usually when I hit LA I wind up in dist 2--so there are at least enough people to warrant 2 districts).
also yesterday was...tuesday??? more people play on the weekends (kids have school, adults work)....not to mention people are farming for nic gifts--factions this week.
yeah, the game is almost 7 years old, there are not as many people playing now, but with 7 heroes etc...people tend to NOT hang around unless they are trading.
also yesterday was...tuesday??? more people play on the weekends (kids have school, adults work)....not to mention people are farming for nic gifts--factions this week.
yeah, the game is almost 7 years old, there are not as many people playing now, but with 7 heroes etc...people tend to NOT hang around unless they are trading.
enter_the_zone
Yeah, Kamadan is where it's at. Also, alot of the active players don't hang out in town much because we have heroes so no longer have to stand around for ages going LFG.............. LFG.................LFG.
That said, it's clear the population is falling. I've got 100 people on my friends list and in the last year I'd say that at no point have more than 10 people been online at one time, and overall I'd guess at least 60 to 70 of those people haven't been online at all in over a year.
That said, it's clear the population is falling. I've got 100 people on my friends list and in the last year I'd say that at no point have more than 10 people been online at one time, and overall I'd guess at least 60 to 70 of those people haven't been online at all in over a year.
a-kyle
thats another thing - I thought the popular thing was do everything solo....WITHOUT heros, henchies or other people cause then you get all the golds.....have times changed? can you do UW, FOW and other places with heros instead of people now?
worstnameevar
The solo meta has changed into a solo +7 meta, 7 heroes that is. Hard mode introduction also changed the drop occurrences of gold, making scalability the modus operandi for all farmers. Recent de-buffs of popular solo/two man farming has also hastened the onset of the +7 meta. That, and it just makes sense to use them since all your friends haven't logged on in 6 months :\
You can do any high end area with 7 heroes. Last I checked, the real hero wranglers were doing UW HM and DoA NM, but that was over 6 months ago
You can do any high end area with 7 heroes. Last I checked, the real hero wranglers were doing UW HM and DoA NM, but that was over 6 months ago
a-kyle
so essentially heros are the new people and instead of seeing that sweet rq9 chaos axe that dropped we no longer see it.....angry face. I liked going with people cause what they didnt pick up eventually became fair game and I became rich off that >_<.
But i guess 7 heros would be good for doing UW and what not...Love to see a video of some one doing Dhuum with 7 heros LOL
But i guess 7 heros would be good for doing UW and what not...Love to see a video of some one doing Dhuum with 7 heros LOL
Belzebu
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He also soloed (that means no hero or hench) the whole prophecies campaign.
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thats another thing - I thought the popular thing was do everything solo....WITHOUT heros, henchies or other people cause then you get all the golds.....have times changed? can you do UW, FOW and other places with heros instead of people now?
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EPO Bot
Yeah, i think it's done. But i played this game longer then any other title ever, so it's about time.
Martin Alvito
What do you mean by dead or dying?
The competitive zenith of the game passed sometime in 2006; the cooperative zenith (PvE) passed somewhere in 2008-2009. But the game need not be at its zenith to avoid being dead or dying, so we need to narrow down the definition a bit.
If you define "dying" by activity, then the game is dying regardless of the game mode we're talking about. Both PvP and PvE are populated by far fewer people, and are played at a level much lower than the highest level of play that both once enjoyed.
If you define "dying" as a threshold condition where a minimum level of activity means the game is not "dying", then PvE certainly is not dying and several PvP formats are not either.
The competitive zenith of the game passed sometime in 2006; the cooperative zenith (PvE) passed somewhere in 2008-2009. But the game need not be at its zenith to avoid being dead or dying, so we need to narrow down the definition a bit.
If you define "dying" by activity, then the game is dying regardless of the game mode we're talking about. Both PvP and PvE are populated by far fewer people, and are played at a level much lower than the highest level of play that both once enjoyed.
If you define "dying" as a threshold condition where a minimum level of activity means the game is not "dying", then PvE certainly is not dying and several PvP formats are not either.
Fluffy Kittens
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That said, it's clear the population is falling. I've got 100 people on my friends list and in the last year I'd say that at no point have more than 10 people been online at one time, and overall I'd guess at least 60 to 70 of those people haven't been online at all in over a year.
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On topic: pve farms and speed clears are still alive, kamadan is still alive but pvp is dead for quite a while already.
FalconDance
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lemming
People have been complaining about the game being "dead" since 2006.
Just sayin.
Just sayin.
enter_the_zone
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tummlykins
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This isn't a game that wants to keep you wasting your time on empty pursuits just to get a monthly out of you.
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Guild Wars has no subscription fee and has some of the most ridiculous and pointless grind in any game I've played. The grind for dryad bow drops or even just faction titles is mind numbingly boring, repetitive and at least 50 times longer than they should have been - not to mention the titles are character specific. They created a tonne of grind because their business model didn't have a satisfactory level of challenging, fun and engaging game content. It more has to do with the quality of the developer and their product rather than the business model they employ. This is how games have been long before MMOs.
Is GW done? Probably. The game is nothing like it was back in 2006, even when WoC content is released the population doesn't surge that much (honestly I think a large part of that is the rewards are kinda suck, particularly for part 2 - if they were going to space them out over a whole year it would have been a much better idea to give three tiers of rewards instead of two, with the second being for part 2 and 3 even though it's not available during part 2). People basically play to grind stuff now, if content doesn't provide a reward worth grinding, it's going to be unpopular.
ruk1a
Yes it's dead, there's your non fanboi answer. Either play it or don't.
Zebideedee
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I haven't played since SWTOR came out. I logged on to get the Wintersday hats and that was it. I'll probably log on to get this weekend's mask and mini but then it will be right back to SWTOR for me.
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There are new players starting all the time but so many big games came out towards the end of last year. Skyrim, BF3, SWTOR etc. they'll probably have an impact on how many playing.
Mintha Syl
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Who only has 1 account, anyway?
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Btw, is it just me tired of seeing similar topics to this? They come out like once a week now...yeah, gw is dead, were all phantoms and anyway the mayan end of the world is near so hey who cares
Missing HB
The PvP part of the game is dead yes, considering there isn't any form of activity anywhere except on week end euro evenings..
However, i have doubts for PvE, i still find it relatively easy to find a party for a quest or an elite area.. Sure, many places are empty, but it's still for sure more populated than PvP.
However, i have doubts for PvE, i still find it relatively easy to find a party for a quest or an elite area.. Sure, many places are empty, but it's still for sure more populated than PvP.
Swingline
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*raises hand*
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Alathin
I only have one account and I play it alot :P
Mintha Syl
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enter_the_zone
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That was a long time ago now, and a lot of my friends are from those days. Most of us were playing before the IG store, never mind character slots or storage panes, so multiple accounts was normal.
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Im not new im a 6 year veteran :P
enter_the_zone
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a-kyle
I only have one account and three characters
enter_the_zone
Ok, seriously now, how many hours have you guys played?
Essence Snow
I only have one account...13,455 hours across 11 toons
I have a guildy that has 35 accounts with nowhere near the hours
I have a guildy that has 35 accounts with nowhere near the hours
a-kyle
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cosyfiep
my husband only has one account, he started playing in June of 2005....he has only the slots that came with the expansions...so 8? and only 6 character (I MADE him make a rit since he kept bothering me about having mine come along or he would only have 5)...he also works 2 jobs=little time for playing.
Some people are fine focusing in on one (or two) main characters and then playing them only----other people (like me), want to play all the classes, (or like me--like to make characters
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the way the game is it doesnt matter what your style--play 100 characters or just one, play for 100,000 hours or play 1 hour every month (or so)....that is one of the great things about this game.
Some people are fine focusing in on one (or two) main characters and then playing them only----other people (like me), want to play all the classes, (or like me--like to make characters
).....the way the game is it doesnt matter what your style--play 100 characters or just one, play for 100,000 hours or play 1 hour every month (or so)....that is one of the great things about this game.
Mintha Syl
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And, I have an account only but with 16 slots...I'd rather have 50 chars in a single account than many accounts, I know it's way more expensive but I'd never like having everything on diff places.
enter_the_zone
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Plus, I am a compulsive hoarder in every game I play.... and nicks collectibles alone take more than 2 char slots... then there are all the mini pets and runes and materials and booze and party and sweets and.. and.. and..
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2851 hours and 3 years...I'm not a veteran as most people here are but I wouldn't either call myself a newbie :P
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