Pre-Searing Travel
Turkey Baster
I think there should be a way to go back to pre-searing to get LDoA for any core profession. They could simply put a red circle with a line to represent any item not in pre-searing cannot be used. Insignias, runes, and other mods should have no effect when traveling back. You only get the skill set you would if every pre-searing quest was finished. This small change is simple to implement and would bother nobody or make anything unbalanced in any way. Both 15 attribute quests are negated whiled traveling back as well. You're level should be set to 1 if you decide to do this and if you don't finish LDoA and go back through searing it will be what it normally was, consider traveling almost like a huge dungeon.
bleh
Nice Idea its just that i think alot of the attraction too pre-searing is the fact that it is exclusive, not too mention having its own economy ect..ect..
to keep it that way while allowing "seared" characters back would be alot of effort.
New Character slots are quite cheap, so i think this is the compromise.
No real reason too allow "seared" characters back.
Flame on for everyone else :P.
to keep it that way while allowing "seared" characters back would be alot of effort.
New Character slots are quite cheap, so i think this is the compromise.
No real reason too allow "seared" characters back.
Flame on for everyone else :P.
jcegt87
like ive posted before , suuuure why the hell not, they given in to peoples demands in the past,why not this, maybelike we see in the BMPs no drops no loot no nothing just go in and do what you have to do, no trading or anything
also i say add title to the GW store while were at it *sarcasm*
let them finish touching up GW2 so i can finnaly play it , then they can F up GW1 all they want
also i say add title to the GW store while were at it *sarcasm*
let them finish touching up GW2 so i can finnaly play it , then they can F up GW1 all they want
LanaDarkess
What is the point of sending back a character you've already made, if it's only going back to level 1?? If it's a core profession you want, either delete a character you don't want/use or buy a new character slot and voila! There's really not much else to think about....
Guillotine Princess
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Buy another character slot or delete one that you don't use much.
Buy another character slot or delete one that you don't use much.
gremlin
Sure find a way for a character to go back in time a couple of years because that's what happens when you go to post searing.
Just start a new character
Just start a new character
Andemius
I'm gonna say what's been said before.
The only reason I personally would go back to Pre (with a proph char), is if I could collect the LDoA title.
Otherwise it's pointless. But this has been suggested before.
The only reason I personally would go back to Pre (with a proph char), is if I could collect the LDoA title.
Otherwise it's pointless. But this has been suggested before.
Turkey Baster
It's not that I don't use a character slot, it's literally the title alone. I would spend 100k if it meant I could travel back to pre-searing and be level 1 just to gain the title then go back with it and use all my unlocked skills and armor, etc. Meh, doesn't take that long to reroll but whatever I suppose. LDoA is literally the only reason.
gremlin
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Originally Posted by Turkey Baster
It's not that I don't use a character slot, it's literally the title alone. I would spend 100k if it meant I could travel back to pre-searing and be level 1 just to gain the title then go back with it and use all my unlocked skills and armor, etc. Meh, doesn't take that long to reroll but whatever I suppose. LDoA is literally the only reason.
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All characters in post wishing to do this would be rolled back to lvl 1 and have all skills items and money removed before passage was allowed.
Then having reached lvl 20 in pre they come forward in time again and pick up all their skills and items.
If they thought there was a market for it no doubt there would be a rewrite and a charge of say £5 per trip.
Gill Halendt
This is one more reason why I wish the KoaBD title track was implemented as a global, account wide counter for individual titles, HoM-style.
This way, people could work on titles with whichever character they liked, without worrying about KoaBD and sticking to one single character to achieve every title in existence. It sure would have promoted variety, but it's now way too late for a change.
As for LDoA... Since the Vanguard Quests last year, it has become a lot less impressive as an achievement for me. That's why I decided not to move my LDoA character and make it a perma-pre instead.
Not convinced by this suggestion. If anything, I think LDoA should be a pre-searing only title, and mutually exclusive to Legendary Survivor.
This way, people could work on titles with whichever character they liked, without worrying about KoaBD and sticking to one single character to achieve every title in existence. It sure would have promoted variety, but it's now way too late for a change.
As for LDoA... Since the Vanguard Quests last year, it has become a lot less impressive as an achievement for me. That's why I decided not to move my LDoA character and make it a perma-pre instead.
Not convinced by this suggestion. If anything, I think LDoA should be a pre-searing only title, and mutually exclusive to Legendary Survivor.
simooshy
I think it should stay how it is at the moment. It has already been made easier to do, making it possible to go back and do later would ruin it further for all the people who worked hard on it.
Turkey Baster
Gill is one of the few that made sense in this thread. No, this would not be hard to write and sure as hell shouldn't cost £5, 100k maybe? Nothing is removed or lost. An NPC can simply say remove all your armor, gold, and weapons before traveling back. Nothing is reset or lost. You simply go back to gain the silly ass title, rather you see it as an achievement or not. Deleting a character? Buying a character slot? No. The point is you've done a ton with the character and want LDoA on it because it's the most boring title there is to start out doing. There is no hard work involved what so ever, it's redoing Charr At The Gate and killing two level eight bandits until your eyes bleed.
I'm not sure if KoABD would work globally besides maxing account wide titles, but LDoA should be global then we can skip this entire suggestion and have it count towards KoABD on all characters. Then nobody's "hard work" (LOL) would be lost or forgotten as if it weren't already, but let's pretend like it hasn't. Only core characters can wear the title would be the only catch. If you enjoy multiple characters and titles at all then you should support this idea.
I'm not sure if KoABD would work globally besides maxing account wide titles, but LDoA should be global then we can skip this entire suggestion and have it count towards KoABD on all characters. Then nobody's "hard work" (LOL) would be lost or forgotten as if it weren't already, but let's pretend like it hasn't. Only core characters can wear the title would be the only catch. If you enjoy multiple characters and titles at all then you should support this idea.
simooshy
I am talking about how it was before the Pre-searing update. That update made a lot of people who deathlevelled for months very unhappy. LDoA is supposed to have some prestige, and as it is now, the only prestige is that you did it before moving your character any further. It's a title you have to do or leave. Making it so you can go back later removes a lot of the point.
Coast
Available title tracks
Each character can complete up to 43 separate title tracks. (God Walking Amongst Mere Mortals is a maxed title, but it does not add a point to itself once achieved.)
Because of this ldoa should be account wide, otherwise the wiki is wrong.
Each character can complete up to 43 separate title tracks. (God Walking Amongst Mere Mortals is a maxed title, but it does not add a point to itself once achieved.)
Because of this ldoa should be account wide, otherwise the wiki is wrong.
simooshy
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Available title tracks
Each character can complete up to 43 separate title tracks. (God Walking Amongst Mere Mortals is a maxed title, but it does not add a point to itself once achieved.) Because of this ldoa should be account wide, otherwise the wiki is wrong. |
Edit: I can actually see how, within the time-frame it is impossible, but given enough time it is possible to do. Also since when has wiki been 100% accurate? :P
Turkey Baster
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Originally Posted by simooshy
I am talking about how it was before the Pre-searing update. That update made a lot of people who deathlevelled for months very unhappy. LDoA is supposed to have some prestige, and as it is now, the only prestige is that you did it before moving your character any further. It's a title you have to do or leave. Making it so you can go back later removes a lot of the point.
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superraptors
there isn't any prestige in any title other than effort shown for it.
RedDog91
This is a lot harder to implement than OP realizes.
In fact, it would be the most complicated change to be made to the game since...ever.
In fact, it would be the most complicated change to be made to the game since...ever.
MithranArkanere
As much as I'd love for it to happen. And although it could be possible, at least by locking your inventory, setting your stats and HP and, and forcing you to use a certain weapon set, and then talking with Symon while equipped with it to 'hear a past story' and go back in time, it would be too much trouble for something you can do just by getting another character slot.
Why not simply making all titles account-wide? They are already account-wide in the HoM.
Why not simply making all titles account-wide? They are already account-wide in the HoM.
RedDog91
Turkey, believe me, if you had ever tried to code anything for a game, even something as simple as a "if-then" engine, then you would understand why this particular suggestion is extremely complicated.
You are correct that most people tend to counter suggestions with "it's too complicated", but this is usually just people's way of saying "I don't like it, but I don't know why." Now, if a feature were implemented like you suggest, I would certainly use it and most likely enjoy doing so, but such a feature just isn't doable.
Sit back and think about all the things that would have to happen for this to be doable. Now tell me that you think its possible. If you do, you are either lying or didn't think hard enough.
You are correct that most people tend to counter suggestions with "it's too complicated", but this is usually just people's way of saying "I don't like it, but I don't know why." Now, if a feature were implemented like you suggest, I would certainly use it and most likely enjoy doing so, but such a feature just isn't doable.
Sit back and think about all the things that would have to happen for this to be doable. Now tell me that you think its possible. If you do, you are either lying or didn't think hard enough.
Turkey Baster
When I really think hard about it, I'll never go for Legendary Vanquisher or any of the PvP titles besides Zaishen and Gladiator, possibly Hero. A game is meant to be played and enjoyed, how you do that is really your business. I shouldn't have made a big deal, rolled a Ritualist and said "I can't get the title, I'm Canthan, who cares". Even the good suggestions that were implemented took a bit of time, feedback, and interest.
Coast
This feels like I've seen it all before, oh ye I remember:
when ldoa and r3 survivor were not possible to legally gain on 1character, i wonder if that ever got changed... wait a sec... yes it got changed since it was unfair towards some characters. Looks like we are on that same ship again, how long till it sinks?
when ldoa and r3 survivor were not possible to legally gain on 1character, i wonder if that ever got changed... wait a sec... yes it got changed since it was unfair towards some characters. Looks like we are on that same ship again, how long till it sinks?
MithranArkanere
They didn't make it so it was possible in one character, but so it was possible to retry without making a new character every time.
With LDoA, you don't need to 'retry' if you fail. You accumulate points at your own pace, and the only way to miss it is leaving pre-Searing, if you miss it, you just make another character and don't leave. There's very clear warnings before leaving if you can read.
With the old survivor, if you died, that's it, you must make another character.
Leaving pre can't be compared to dying. Dying is much more likely to happen, because lag hits happen.
With LDoA, you don't need to 'retry' if you fail. You accumulate points at your own pace, and the only way to miss it is leaving pre-Searing, if you miss it, you just make another character and don't leave. There's very clear warnings before leaving if you can read.
With the old survivor, if you died, that's it, you must make another character.
Leaving pre can't be compared to dying. Dying is much more likely to happen, because lag hits happen.
Olle
"Once we leave, there will be no turning back"
Coast
but old characters are left out...
lets wait another 6years till they realise their mistake
lets wait another 6years till they realise their mistake
gremlin
The removal of the need to death level this title was one of the best things anet ever did.
I mean honestly can anyone be serious about a title called Legendary defender of Ascalon obtained by such a method.
Tell us oh great hero what mighty deeds did you perform to be granted this title.
Well you see I found some weak charr took my armour off and let them kill me again and again till they became mighty charr, then I killed them, by repeating this for hours at a time I became the great hero you see before you.
I mean honestly can anyone be serious about a title called Legendary defender of Ascalon obtained by such a method.
Tell us oh great hero what mighty deeds did you perform to be granted this title.
Well you see I found some weak charr took my armour off and let them kill me again and again till they became mighty charr, then I killed them, by repeating this for hours at a time I became the great hero you see before you.
Ayuhmii Shanbwa
i'd like to return there with my rit, just to play with charr, but for LDoA? nah
i have 1 perma pre char, and she stays there with costume and festival hat (cat ears)
but if i could go there with my rit, i'd like to use lower armor, starter skills only, and i dont care about a hero
*my wish would be to have possibility to make perma pre with all profs*
(i even made a list with skills and locations on notepad the way i'd do that)
LDoA is special, as you only get it 1 way, and 1 thing proph has as special thing
fac, NF and eotn have some reputation (kurz/lux, sunspear+lightbringer, asura-norn-dwarf-vanguard) and proph has none of those, so we could see LDoA like that, as all others are everywhere (skill hunt, carto etc)
so: travel to have fun there? sure
travel back to get the title? no thx, not for me
(make a rit in pre to keep there? i wish)
anyway, dont you think its a bit too easy that way?
where'll be the fun?
i have 1 perma pre char, and she stays there with costume and festival hat (cat ears)
but if i could go there with my rit, i'd like to use lower armor, starter skills only, and i dont care about a hero
*my wish would be to have possibility to make perma pre with all profs*
(i even made a list with skills and locations on notepad the way i'd do that)
LDoA is special, as you only get it 1 way, and 1 thing proph has as special thing
fac, NF and eotn have some reputation (kurz/lux, sunspear+lightbringer, asura-norn-dwarf-vanguard) and proph has none of those, so we could see LDoA like that, as all others are everywhere (skill hunt, carto etc)
so: travel to have fun there? sure
travel back to get the title? no thx, not for me
(make a rit in pre to keep there? i wish)
anyway, dont you think its a bit too easy that way?
where'll be the fun?
Kada
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the whole point of pre-searing that separates it from the other starter areas is that it's in the past. it's not a "here's your steep learning curve" idea like NF and Factions, it's designed to be played through and learnt core lore from.
IMO if you want LDoA then go and make a new character and get LDoA on it. With help from guildies / friends or an alt account to take you hunting, LDoA can be done in < 24 hours provided the right Vanguard quest is available (Hamnet).
the whole point of pre-searing that separates it from the other starter areas is that it's in the past. it's not a "here's your steep learning curve" idea like NF and Factions, it's designed to be played through and learnt core lore from.
IMO if you want LDoA then go and make a new character and get LDoA on it. With help from guildies / friends or an alt account to take you hunting, LDoA can be done in < 24 hours provided the right Vanguard quest is available (Hamnet).
Gabs88
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They didn't make it so it was possible in one character, but so it was possible to retry without making a new character every time.
With LDoA, you don't need to 'retry' if you fail. You accumulate points at your own pace, and the only way to miss it is leaving pre-Searing, if you miss it, you just make another character and don't leave. There's very clear warnings before leaving if you can read. With the old survivor, if you died, that's it, you must make another character. Leaving pre can't be compared to dying. Dying is much more likely to happen, because lag hits happen. |
In other words youre speaking of something you don't know jack shit about so don't pretend you do.
This title should be made account wide, problem solved. Yeah this would mean some Elonian and Canthan characters will have it too, but who says they didnt visit Ascalon before the searing?
MithranArkanere
I do know. And you'll know too if you read what devs say. You know, comments in the wiki and interviews and such.
Kimmes was added mainly so you could add titles you got in pre-Searing without leaving.
And since it can be added to the HoM, there's no need to 'go back', because it can already be added for HoM completion.
What counts for GW2 is being able to add it to the HoM, not having it in the character you want it to be.
You don't even need it for GWAMM.
The title has no effect like the lucky, wisdom, treasure hunter or reputation ones, so there's no need to have it in more characters other than showing it off.
Kimmes was added mainly so you could add titles you got in pre-Searing without leaving.
And since it can be added to the HoM, there's no need to 'go back', because it can already be added for HoM completion.
What counts for GW2 is being able to add it to the HoM, not having it in the character you want it to be.
You don't even need it for GWAMM.
The title has no effect like the lucky, wisdom, treasure hunter or reputation ones, so there's no need to have it in more characters other than showing it off.
Alay
I'd like to keep pre and post isolated as they are. I rather like the flair and uniqueness of pre-searing.
If it's a really big deal to so many people to have the LDoA title visible on all their characters, just make it account wide. It's not a big deal to me, because I'm enjoying earning it on a specific characters, but if having something to show off means a lot to others, be my guest.
Just please keep them apart.
If it's a really big deal to so many people to have the LDoA title visible on all their characters, just make it account wide. It's not a big deal to me, because I'm enjoying earning it on a specific characters, but if having something to show off means a lot to others, be my guest.
Just please keep them apart.