I've always wondered this. There is no reason other heroes on the team need BiP unless you purposely give them builds they can't manage energy well. Maybe it's the low investment or that you can bring it on an N/Rt, but you have so many other more useful elites. Blood Ritual isn't as bad but it still seems like a waste of points and a skill slot to compensate for bad playing.
So why do people use Blood is Power and Blood Ritual?
BiP and BR on heroes
Relyk
MisterB
AI is bad at energy management, and those skills are band-aids to the problem.
AndrewSX
Also, using a BR (or better a Bip) hero allows you to drop half of the skills devoted to e-management to other heroes (like mesmers or monk, those usually have 2 among Pdrain-leeh-WNWN) and use that space for moar dmg/heal/whatnot.
Also, i've seen most ppl use Bip as elite of a N/rt healer, which makes sense to me, because the biggest issue of that build is the lack of good resto elites. Puttin few points in Blood allows to use Bip effectively, and solve some problems.
Also, i've seen most ppl use Bip as elite of a N/rt healer, which makes sense to me, because the biggest issue of that build is the lack of good resto elites. Puttin few points in Blood allows to use Bip effectively, and solve some problems.
Wenspire
BR is a horrible skill to use for a hero if you plan on running multiple heroes with EN-problems. This would, in short, render that hero (using BR) useless since he would be spending most of his time running from hero to hero using a slow skill.
If one really wants a battery, I would highly suggest using BiP instead. Personally, I would want to rely on neither.
If one really wants a battery, I would highly suggest using BiP instead. Personally, I would want to rely on neither.
Damian Manson
Funnily enough I was glad we got the 7 hero update just so I could use a BiP hero lol and drop those pesky self sustaining energy skills on every other hero that needed them, yes its slightly risky if the BiP goes down but I think it more than makes up for it with the availability of so many more skills in the team make up. I find it funny that you think using BiP is a stand in for people being bad players but I wont go further with that, I know my team works incredibly well in most circumstances with the few exceptions where you need to change up a little or a lot for obvious reasons imposed by the areas/missions/dungeons that your about to complete or even if you just fancy a change.
What I'm getting at is if your team works out better because you can afford to drop an elite to gain so many more skills that makes it worth while to what your about to do then why not
I don't swear by it but in my own play style it works out the best.
P.S Agreed with above BR on a hero Imo is a horrible skill for reasons stated above although it was usefull on Eve back in the days of henchman only lol :P
Also this is based on me being on my main as a Derv so some of the the bloodline can come in handy so ties in fairly well with that respect.
What I'm getting at is if your team works out better because you can afford to drop an elite to gain so many more skills that makes it worth while to what your about to do then why not
I don't swear by it but in my own play style it works out the best.P.S Agreed with above BR on a hero Imo is a horrible skill for reasons stated above although it was usefull on Eve back in the days of henchman only lol :P
Also this is based on me being on my main as a Derv so some of the the bloodline can come in handy so ties in fairly well with that respect.
Lanier
Having BiP in my party allows me to almost entirely drop e-management on my mesmer, smiter, and other chars. From experience with BiP in my party, I can tell you that the 33% health loss really isn't a big deal at all when you have OP defenses in your party.
Pee V Pee
Wenspire
I'd rather have my SoS casting SplinterWeapon more often. But it would be less detrimental on an SoS compared to almost all other roles.
Jeydra
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Originally Posted by Relyk
I've always wondered this. There is no reason other heroes on the team need BiP unless you purposely give them builds they can't manage energy well. Maybe it's the low investment or that you can bring it on an N/Rt, but you have so many other more useful elites. Blood Ritual isn't as bad but it still seems like a waste of points and a skill slot to compensate for bad playing.
So why do people use Blood is Power and Blood Ritual? That's why: you purposely give them builds that can't manage energy well, exploiting the fact that you have a BiP in your party.
So why do people use Blood is Power and Blood Ritual? That's why: you purposely give them builds that can't manage energy well, exploiting the fact that you have a BiP in your party.
Daesu
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BiP allows me to only bring 1 energy management skill on each of my 4 mesmers thus saving me 4 skill slots in my team. Any alternative elite choices for my N/Rt that can provide such an impact?
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Never. The AI doesn't sac itself to death nowadays, there was a previous update years ago that fixed that. But like everyone said, there is a risk with a BiP because he can possibly take damage immediately after a sac which brings his life low. This risk is generally worth it with the benefits of BiP.|
I don't know how well heroes use BiP, so, someone tell me.
They use it pretty well to me.
FoxBat
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Any alternative elite choices for my N/Rt that can provide such an impact?
Aura of the Lich, although I still think BiP is pretty good.
AndrewSX
Remember: if you have a bip in the team, you won't have to worry about healing him the 33% sac. Your healer will have a shit load of energy, casting a couple of direct heals more to keep up the bip isn't much problem.
Also, heroes are quite good at it. They can actually "see" the other members energy and use bip only when under a certain level. Also, they never suicide themselves, they just stop casting it if becomes too risky. Obv a bip is a high priority target for low AL and less hp (right after a bip for example) so you'll have to have prots. Or use another primary, seen some ppl toying with a P/N bip, due to high AL and additional support trough shouts. Btw, a good BIp bar could be: Bip, Sols, 3-4x resto skills (Spirit Light, MbaS, Kaolai, Res - if needed), 2-3x blood support (strip ench, well of blood, blood bond, dark fury, order of pain, mark of fury.....last 4 of them are better for a meele player tho).
Amy Awien
How so? Mesmer e-management is almost exclusively in Inspiration, meaning with a BiP/BR necro around your Mesmer heroes wouldn't need to spec into Inspiration
Daesu
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Quote: Assuming you have 500 health because you're holding PwK you will deal a total of 825 dmage to yourself with those 5 BiPs. The AI would not cast 5 BiPs continuously like that. First of all, BiP is an enchantment that lasts 10s each time so the AI would not override the same enchantment on the target if the enchantment is still active. Second, it is unlikely that all 5 casters would be low in energy at any one time. Third, the BiPer would have sacced himself to death saccing more life than he has, which the AI would not do.
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