How much wealth does the average player have?

Ewon

Ewon

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Join Date: May 2007

Canada

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Originally Posted by CE Devilman View Post
on mules...
60-70 stacks of each sc stuff (cupcake and +1 stuff)
5500k in gold
6-7 stacks ecto
spend the polar from last year to get more fow armor to my 3 main acc.
and 5-6 bds..for the fun of it.

hmm..I might be abel to pull out 45000k in gold
..and I still pick up the crap and salv it

25% of the player got 50k and up
25% of the player got 100k and up
12%...500k and up
5% 2000k and up
2%..up up up
I'm sorry, but how are your figures of your own wealth helping to back your idea of average wealth? It seems odd that you would post a 45mil wealth and suggest such a low average.

roachsrealm

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Join Date: Dec 2009

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Im a month behind retail day one, pretty active throughout, and I've never seen over 200k in storage. I think the most I have ever had is 130K. The highest total wealth I had at one time was when I went on an AB binge on an event weekend years ago and got Elite Kurz armor. over 100 Ambers and a couple ectos were in storage along with about 80K.

Otherwise all my wealth is in constant movement. Anytime I get close to 70K it just means its time to spend it. Of course if I liquidated everything for what I purchased it for it's be in the 7 digits, I'm sure. 8 elite sets across 3 characters and everything is either all white or black...

drusus67

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Join Date: Dec 2011

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I estimate the average wealth earned by a player
y1: 150k
y2: 500k
y3: 2M
y4: 6M
y5: 12M
y6: 20M

afya

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/Me

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Originally Posted by drusus67 View Post
I estimate the average wealth earned by a player
y1: 150k
y2: 500k
y3: 2M
y4: 6M
y5: 12M
y6: 20M
Must be off because, in my knowledge and my social circles in GW, most 2+yrs players had been away from GW for at least several months, even some may come back.

Speaking of my self, 73 months and I have been off several times, a couple months each for other reasons or games. And since the introduction of HoM reward calculator, I have seen even more player leaving or pausing GW after filling HoM up.

So, I'm pretty sure those numbers u posted are overestimating things.

Martin Alvito

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Join Date: Aug 2006

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Originally Posted by drusus67 View Post
I estimate the average wealth earned by a player
y1: 150k
y2: 500k
y3: 2M
y4: 6M
y5: 12M
y6: 20M
Preposterous. No way the average player has ten stacks of ectos (or even the equivalent in stuff after spending on titles) today.

20,000,000 / 100,000 X 12.5 = 2500 globs at present rates. I'm not buying that for a second.

aMouthForWar

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Join Date: Mar 2012

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I consider myself a slightly more-than-average player... Been playing for a long time (just a few months after prophecies' release), know a lot about the game but never got much into higher-end content until lately. I've always seemed to hover right under 100k + armor sets and rare weapons on 2-3 chars.

Nothing too amazing, but I can't complain either.

ruk1a

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AVERAGE player? You are high. I've played A LOT and don't have that.

I'd bet its more in the less than 100k range.
I could make that in a couple days by farming and I have been playing for 5 years, not trying to boast.. anyone can do it. I would say at least half a mill.

At this point I don't even have anything to spend on except for rare collector items.

edit; Then again, I only pve with my assassin so I can understand how people blow all their money on buying armor/weapon sets for multiple characters.

MalibuBarbie

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Working in the community of Guild Wars, I would say the average player at the moment has at least 4-5 sets of Elite armor on 2-3 characters on their account. They might have 2-3 rare weapons and around 200k-300k in the bank. Most would have around 15-20 ectos on their account pending on whether they are saving up for Obsidian.

With the influx of Zkeys on the market, I think this has significantly helped a majority of players get "Richer" as far as the game goes.

I have been playing 6+ years and I have at least 1-2 sets of Elite armor on 24 characters ( Over 2 accounts)

2 Sets of Obsidian, Chaos gloves on a few. I don't have that many rare minipets, but I have a variety of rare weapons. (Most of this is attributed to PvP participation...not PvE) I probably would have more on my account...but I usually give most of my stuff away :P

I find that there are a ton of players giving away more items ingame more than ever to newer players or players who need help with their Hall of Monuments.

Unknown Duli

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Quote:
Originally Posted by drusus67 View Post
I estimate the average wealth earned by a player
y1: 150k
y2: 500k
y3: 2M
y4: 6M
y5: 12M
y6: 20M
Definately think this is a good average range..esp when you take in armors, wpns, consumables, and all kinda of items laying around on mules and multiple acnts.

FengShuiDove

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I'd call myself pretty average as far as playing time and style is concerned, but I'm a bit smarter financially than your average bear, and I have done some farming over time and other sorts of "accelerated income generation" methods.

I'd estimate my total wealth across all accounts including armors, weapons, vanity items, minis, etc., to be between $5-10M. My main account has a full HoM plus lots of extra armors, and my second account has several elite armors plus over a million in cash and assets.

I'd guess I'm in the top 10-15% of players wealth-wise, and $1M is probably a good cutoff for the 25th percentile. Top 50% I would guess is somewhere around $300k and above. Most people have an elite armor or two and maybe a mid-range mini or weapon.

June Bug

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Originally Posted by Unknown Duli View Post
Definately think this is a good average range..esp when you take in armors, wpns, consumables, and all kinda of items laying around on mules and multiple acnts.
Me too. When I calculated roughly, I arrived at around 11-12 million for myself, and I've been playing for about 5 years. I'm a semi-casual player, and I don't power trade or speed clear, I mostly farm by myself.

Mintha Syl

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I'm starting to think (or prolly I knew already) nobody on this forum is into the average/casual category. Even more the ones who care to answer to such topics. I mean, if you follow a fanforum you're already kind of an addicted to the game, while I think the basic average player only plays once in a while and has no interest of being part of an outer game community, safe for maybe asking for help, advice or trading; not the riverside kind imho. Just sayin'.

drusus67

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Join Date: Dec 2011

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Quote:
Originally Posted by drusus67 View Post
I estimate the average wealth earned by a player
y1: 150k
y2: 500k
y3: 2M
y4: 6M
y5: 12M
y6: 20M
Have a quick look on baltha... just noticed I have 16M baltha ...
take luxon/kurzick pts @ amber rate.... goes up really fast

How much wealth do you think the average player has?
==> should be: How much money you earned IG?
cause I bought some weapons 100k, they cost 1k now.
Some pets were 100k (random), now 100a....

Bright Star Shine

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Calculated, if I add up all the money I have currently, including armors etc (not weapons that I bought from players), and HoM shit (tormy weaps) I would come up around 6,000 ecto I think.

If I would calculate EVERYTHING I've ever earned that has gone into consumables/Zchest/Lockpicks and that shit, I'm gonna come up with a way higher number though. All the consumables alone would be another ~5,000e easily, without even trying, then Zchest and that shit.... I've probably earned about 12,000-13,000 ecto over a period of 5 years. But 95% of that number is starting from August 2010 though.

Not saying that this is average, but I know quite a lot of people (pretty much everyone in the 'high-end' SC community that have been there for over a year) that have similar, or higher numbers.

Zetor

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Originally Posted by Mintha Syl View Post
I'm starting to think (or prolly I knew already) nobody on this forum is into the average/casual category. Even more the ones who care to answer to such topics. I mean, if you follow a fanforum you're already kind of an addicted to the game, while I think the basic average player only plays once in a while and has no interest of being part of an outer game community, safe for maybe asking for help, advice or trading; not the riverside kind imho. Just sayin'.
Yep, that's also what I posted earlier.

IMO the *average player* plays through each campaign once (normal mode), if that - and after that he/she puts the game aside, maybe occasionally checks back for events and stuff. You really don't need to accumulate any wealth for that. Similarly, you won't see these players showing off their stuff or spamming trade in kamadan because they're not playing much... if at all.
The HOM->GW2 thing is shaking things up a bit, but even then only two of my guildies logged in to get some points (as we are all launch vets, getting some low-hanging-fruit points would be pretty easy)

There are also probably a lot of players who picked GW up in 2005, got like 3 missions into post-searing and gave it up, not buying any expansions for it either... and that number may be surprisingly big.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

In cash ~100k to 500k
In total ~250k to 1million

Easy enough to make just playing the game and selling drops. Granted towards the end of the games life most common drops had little value, but rare drops had a higher value.

Playing 1 to 3 hours a day with good basic knowledge of the game (not a total nub)

Average high end trader ~5million in cash & items

Markaedw

Markaedw

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Join Date: Nov 2005

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Originally Posted by Zetor View Post
Yep, that's also what I posted earlier.

IMO the *average player* plays through each campaign once (normal mode), if that - and after that he/she puts the game aside, maybe occasionally checks back for events and stuff. You really don't need to accumulate any wealth for that. Similarly, you won't see these players showing off their stuff or spamming trade in kamadan because they're not playing much... if at all.
The HOM->GW2 thing is shaking things up a bit, but even then only two of my guildies logged in to get some points (as we are all launch vets, getting some low-hanging-fruit points would be pretty easy)

There are also probably a lot of players who picked GW up in 2005, got like 3 missions into post-searing and gave it up, not buying any expansions for it either... and that number may be surprisingly big.
not to be OT but:

I've always felt that the true payer base was around 1 mil, regardless of the "units sold" amount. I found it interesting that they got the 1 mil for the beta test after 2 days and a little, but I also know of a few people that signed up with multiple email addresses.

So unless those got automatically excluded I believe there is quite a few less than a true 1 mil sign up.

Starfleck

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Here's my interpretation of the "average player" question:

How much accumulation does that random person have, standing around in that random town, that you see over there?

In order for this to be the case, they must have logged in. Players that have logged in after 3 years, including those who took several months of breaks all the way up to high-end pvp and pve buffs (yes, "average" accounts for the whole spectrum). . .

I'm going to guess along with Malibu Barbie at around 1-2 million overall, including everything spent on titles, armor, rare shinies, and rare materials.

[I am a 3 year veteran, though I've played more than twice that 15-20 hours per week average benchmark, and I'm going to guess my worth in at about 7-8+ million by various farming, speed clears, buying for my HoM, getting the titles ziashen/wisdom/treasure, PvP, etc. I also see most of the guild roster log in more than once a week, but a large number going 2-3 weeks offline regardless of whether they're rich or poor (I pay attention because I'm a leader). Average, I'd say, earns roughly 20% of what I do as a moderately-high-end.]

spun ducky

spun ducky

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Join Date: Nov 2005

WTB: q8 bows

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The average overall would be less than 1 million gold. The majority of players absolutely could careless about the HoM and titles. A huge amount of players just quit after the 3 campaigns.

Guild wars was marketed as a skill based grind free game huge amounts of players never made it to the farming phase or beyond a little casual pvp. I agree with every person posting here isn't casual.

I can't use myself as a comparison as I fall into the super obsessed and elite of the money category since my favorite thing is farming and has been since release. I've spent almost a stack of armbraces on q8 bows in the last month so I think a better question would be whats the average of the hardcore players aka the guru crowd.

artdz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2010

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I've earned about 340-350million in approximately 2.5 years. Although uncommon, I'm sure there are a decent number out there with similiar or better figures that will drag the average much higher.

I would probably guess the average would be maybe 4-5 million for Active players (people with at least 2000+ hours on there account)

Mouse at Large

Mouse at Large

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There is a vast range of wealth - from the dedicated traders/glob farmers to the casual players. One of the best things about GW is that the effectiveness of your setups is not governed by by your wealth.

Above a certain (pretty achievable) baseline, everything else is cosmetic. Let's hope that does not change in GW2

Fire Turok

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Originally Posted by artdz View Post
I've earned about 340-350million in approximately 2.5 years. Although uncommon, I'm sure there are a decent number out there with similiar or better figures that will drag the average much higher.

I would probably guess the average would be maybe 4-5 million for Active players (people with at least 2000+ hours on there account)
I find it EXTREMELY hard to believe you have earned 340mil in 2.5 years. Let's be a bit reasonable.

Elnino

Elnino

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Join Date: May 2008

In a house

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Originally Posted by Fire Turok View Post
I find it EXTREMELY hard to believe you have earned 340mil in 2.5 years. Let's be a bit reasonable.
It's completely possible if you're a high-end gvger and consistently place in the top 16 of the monthly tournaments which, based on his username/guild, seems to be his case.

VikingHaag

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Join Date: Apr 2011

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Quote:
Originally Posted by artdz View Post
I've earned about 340-350million in approximately 2.5 years. Although uncommon, I'm sure there are a decent number out there with similiar or better figures that will drag the average much higher.

I would probably guess the average would be maybe 4-5 million for Active players (people with at least 2000+ hours on there account)
120e = ~1000k/1m
so you're telling me your account is worth 150-160 stacks of ectos?

Sorry, but this figure is simply to high to be believeable.

maraxusofk

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I think I've come across and spent maybe ~20 stacks of ectos during my guild wars lifetime. I'm sure anyone with 50/50 in hom has at least 5m in assets.

AngelWJedi

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Originally Posted by maraxusofk View Post
I think I've come across and spent maybe ~20 stacks of ectos during my guild wars lifetime. I'm sure anyone with 50/50 in hom has at least 5m in assets.
not everyone xD im 50/50 and i only got 1mil in gold and maybe 80k-100kish in assets. and ive been playing close to 5 years

lemming

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Originally Posted by VikingHaag View Post
120e = ~1000k/1m
so you're telling me your account is worth 150-160 stacks of ectos?

Sorry, but this figure is simply to high to be believeable.
It's not. Just about everyone who's been GvGing at a reasonably high level for at least a couple of years since 2008 has that kind of money.

Thenameless Wonder

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Join Date: Aug 2009

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At the moment I have 18k to my name but my wealth is in my armor/titles.

I have four sets of assassin armor all dyed black (leet Kurz, shing jea, seuiting, and asura) the asura isn't black. I got 20% ench spear, shields for dmg, earth, piercing, and fire. Zealous destroyer daggers. Oppressor scythe. Green obsidian armor. I have a blindfold and every type of cosmetic handset except the dragon ones. Close to 1.3mil in total of eotn rep points. Zaishen rank 4. 6 titles maxed. So on and so forth. I think most of the players have little cash, but most of it is invested into stuff. Like at one time I reached 734k from just speed clears but then it all got spent on armor ex. Happily at 46/50 now

Godess Charmaine

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Join Date: Feb 2010

Deth

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I class my self as a very average player, I dont do speed clears or do pvp stufff cept for the occasonal jade quarry , cant even finish uw lol. so with all that in mind i still have over 300k just in gold , 3 sets of elite amor , 20 e, 10 black die and the usuall gold minis and 2 green minins all dedicated.

I havent got gwamm and i think 30/50 hom, I play for the fun of it and over the years have helped so many guildies out and friends it would proberbly make some of you sick what I have given away.

I think it really dosent matter how much you have as long as you have enjoyed your time playing like I have( cept for uw that annoys the crap out of me )lol

The guys that do the speedclears and amass a fortune so they can have there braging rights, I do wounder if they accually enjoy the game as much as I doo or if grinding that hard is really worth it, that would be interesting to know from my perspective. Please dont get me wrong I dont hate on these guys I fully respect there dedication to there side of the game and am in just "wow" at how they do it and make it look easy.

cheers phab

Thenameless Wonder

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@Godess Charmaine - I speed cleared. Lots. Now, it's not about the grinding aspect that attracted me, I didn't want to have millions of gold. I did what I did because the community I was in at the time was very laid back, and we had a lot of fun. We would try different builds and just run for the fun of it. I never really aimed at amassing gold but at one point in my peak I reached over 700k of gold. So I bought a bandana with that

Godess Charmaine

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Deth

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Originally Posted by Thenameless Wonder View Post
@Godess Charmaine - I speed cleared. Lots. Now, it's not about the grinding aspect that attracted me, I didn't want to have millions of gold. I did what I did because the community I was in at the time was very laid back, and we had a lot of fun. We would try different builds and just run for the fun of it. I never really aimed at amassing gold but at one point in my peak I reached over 700k of gold. So I bought a bandana with that
cool as mate allways woundered if it was fun or a boring grind.

cheers

cosyfiep

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guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

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the easy answer:
enough to get stuff when they need it, but not enough to get everything they want--right now

I have what I 'need' to play, not everything I want--I consider myself average, though a bit of a packrat (I keep salvage items and trophies and nice shiny things----).

AngelWJedi

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Originally Posted by cosyfiep View Post
the easy answer:
enough to get stuff when they need it, but not enough to get everything they want--right now

I have what I 'need' to play, not everything I want--I consider myself average, though a bit of a packrat (I keep salvage items and trophies and nice shiny things----).
thought it was ravens that liked shiney things xD and im the same.i got what i need to play but not what i want.

Caprica

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125 braces o.o

Voodoo Rage

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I'm always surprised how fast I gain wealth in this game just by playing the game normally. I never farm anymore but just playing maybe a couple hours a night seems to net me like 15-20k. So that's about 100k a month and over a million in a year. Throw in holidays and that's a lot more on top of that. So the 5 million figure I made fun of earlier in this thread actually isn't that unreasonable.

chaosincarnate87

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Join Date: Oct 2006

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Originally Posted by Voodoo Rage View Post
I'm always surprised how fast I gain wealth in this game just by playing the game normally. I never farm anymore but just playing maybe a couple hours a night seems to net me like 15-20k. So that's about 100k a month and over a million in a year. Throw in holidays and that's a lot more on top of that. So the 5 million figure I mad fun of earlier in this thread actually isn't that unreasonable.
Exactly... they made it so easy to acquire wealth that people who still have a lot of things they would like to buy don't really realize it because they're too busy throwing their money away at things that they don't need whatsoever... not applying that to you in particular either btw.. I just think many don't realize how many gold sinks there are in the game, it's INCREDIBLY easy to gain wealth in the game at a rate of 100-200k a week with little playing at all, but it's even easier to throw it right back away on cons and other unnecessary things that make an easy game even easier (con sets, clovers, cupcakes, pie, apples etc.) or for titles, unnecessary shiny armors and weapons as well.

Wefta

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I usually gain 100k-150k per week, but i havent done that every single week since i started 5 years ago :P that would be crazy... (that would be around 37 billion gold :P)

Anyways, on topic: I think in average players have way more than they believe themselves to have, if u count the net sum of all aquired gold, titles, armor, weaps etc etc that player has earned.

Bright Star Shine

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Originally Posted by Godess Charmaine View Post
The guys that do the speedclears and amass a fortune so they can have there braging rights, I do wounder if they accually enjoy the game as much as I doo or if grinding that hard is really worth it, that would be interesting to know from my perspective. Please dont get me wrong I dont hate on these guys I fully respect there dedication to there side of the game and am in just "wow" at how they do it and make it look easy.
cheers phab
Actually, most, or at least a lot of us do it because we simply enjoy it. I had so much in game money that the only things outside of my reach were the insane high-end mini's, which I cared absolutely nothing about anyway. So I didn't need to amass such fortune, it just happened while doing one of the things I really enjoy in this game: doing DoA with friends and having fun while we're at it. Runs don't go down as this insane grind where you shout at each other when you lose 12seconds or something, it's usually a group of friends having a laugh and enjoying the game. The money was usually just a bonus. In fact, I used to sit on so much ecto that I'm ashamed to admit that I feel poor now that I don't have a storage pane full of them anymore.

Gabs88

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Join Date: Jan 2011

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Originally Posted by Wefta View Post
I usually gain 100k-150k per week, but i havent done that every single week since i started 5 years ago :P that would be crazy... (that would be around 37 billion gold :P)

Anyways, on topic: I think in average players have way more than they believe themselves to have, if u count the net sum of all aquired gold, titles, armor, weaps etc etc that player has earned.
More like 39 millions ^^ Billions would be a thousand times more then that again.

In my experience, the average player sits on around 100-200k of wealth at any given time. Hardcore players have a much higher average and beginning players way less

Doing a bit of math though I'm surprised that not more people have insane wealth in the first place. If you do 8e\hour average speed clearing for 2 hours a day 365 days a year. You end up with almost 6000 ecto at the end of the year.

Pyrthas

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Originally Posted by chaosincarnate87 View Post
I just think many don't realize how many gold sinks there are in the game, it's INCREDIBLY easy to gain wealth in the game at a rate of 100-200k a week with little playing at all, but it's even easier to throw it right back away on cons and other unnecessary things that make an easy game even easier (con sets, clovers, cupcakes, pie, apples etc.) or for titles, unnecessary shiny armors and weapons as well.
Only consets, armor, and craftable weapons are genuine goldsinks, though. They're the only ones that take any money out of the market. The rest just move it around.