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WhiteStorm

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2012

R/Me

Hello,

I've played GW from the beginning but I stopped playing 2 and a half years ago. I Was really addicted, lol. Also, I was pretty good .

But now with GuildWars 2 coming closer than ever I decided to start playing again for the HoM poings. BUUUT, I don't have my old account anymore, I sold it. STUPID ME. So now I bought the games again and I need to start from the beginning (I Remember I had the explorer awards from all the maps and stuff, stupid me!!).

I'm starting in Elona, that's the easiest I think. So my main goal is to get 50/50 (Or highest as possible before the release of GW2). Anybody that has some tips to gain the points ASAP?

Thank you very much,
A GW Veteran

EDIT: Also, I'm starting with a ranger. If this is not the best profession to get the points, please coment fast! I'm downloading the game at this moment :P.

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

Welcome back. Play whatever character you enjoy playing for your HoM, you'll be playing it a lot, especially if you're going for GWAMM. That being said, you can split yor achievements between characters, since the HoM, for GW2 purposes, is account based.

For more info on the HoM there's a nice sticky all about it here: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/c...t10454341.html

enter_the_zone

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2007

R/

50/50 from scratch will probably be a serious push for GW2. .

30/50, on the other hand, is easy. You'll need to farm about 2.5 - 3 million and you can (just about) buy your way there. Or you can farm the hero armors/mats etc. yourself. Honestly, farming cash is faster.

Buy minipets (8/8). Buy hero armor and get special pets (7/8 is relatively easy since it can be achieved with NF and EoTN compulsory heroes). Buy 10 destroyer and a 1 oppressor weapon (6/8). Buy elite armors (7/8, no obsidian). With the 3 additional default points in Honor for account linking, you're upto 31 points.

WhiteStorm

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2012

R/Me

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Originally Posted by enter_the_zone View Post
50/50 from scratch will probably be a serious push for GW2. .

30/50, on the other hand, is easy. You'll need to farm about 2.5 - 3 million. Buy minipets (8/8). Buy hero armor and get special pets (7/8 is relatively easy since it can be achieved with NF and EoTN compulsory heroes). Buy 10 destroyer and a 1 oppressor weapon (6/8). Buy elite armors (7/8, no obsidian). With the 3 additional default points in Honor for account linking, you're upto 31 points.
Sounds hare, sounds A LOT of money, but I have time .

Showtime

Showtime

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

WTB Q9+5e Bows/Q8 14^50 Weapons

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Anything will work, but rangers are currently the worst PVE toon and my main. So you can make it work, but why not start with something easier. Rit, Sin, Mesmer, Necro, Monk, War, Derv, Elem, or Para in that order. That list takes into account farming and team play. BUT they can nerf or buff any class (as they do without rhyme or reason). Faction toons are their darlings. Para and Rangers the red headed step children.

WhiteStorm

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2012

R/Me

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Originally Posted by Showtime View Post
Anything will work, but rangers are currently the worst PVE toon and my main. So you can make it work, but why not start with something easier. Rit, Sin, Mesmer, Necro, Monk, War, Derv, Elem, or Para in that order. That list takes into account farming and team play. BUT they can nerf or buff any class (as they do without rhyme or reason). Faction toons are their darlings. Para and Rangers the red headed step children.
Hmm, thank you. But I already started with a ranger :P. I Love rangers BTW.
Game needs to load to much files on my crappy dorm internet .

enter_the_zone

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2007

R/

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Originally Posted by WhiteStorm View Post
Sounds hare, sounds A LOT of money, but I have time .
Yeah, typical income rate from farming is about 10k an hour, maybe a bit less, depending on what you're farming. It's much higher if you speed clear, or PVP.

I'd play all the games through to the end as well, making sure to get the bonuses, since that will net you points in Honor that you can then deduct from expensive areas, like Resilience (armor) or Valor (weapons).

WhiteStorm

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2012

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Originally Posted by enter_the_zone View Post
Yeah, typical income rate from farming is about 10k an hour, maybe a bit less, depending on what you're farming. It's much higher if you speed clear, or PVP.

I'd play all the games through to the end as well, making sure to get the bonuses, since that will net you points in Honor that you can then deduct from expensive areas, like Resilience (armor) or Valor (weapons).
Well, my main goal is doing this fast, so I think I will be doing that a lot.

Most of the things must be bought? Or can you get this items by doing special quests?

enter_the_zone

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2007

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Well, my main goal is doing this fast, so I think I will be doing that a lot.

Most of the things must be bought? Or can you get this items by doing special quests?
Minipets you will have to buy, since your account is new and it'd take years (literally) to get enough birthday presents to fill this.

The hero armors can be got by doing special missions, but the drop rate is unreliable and I've always found farming the cash to buy them faster.

Oppressor weapons can be got by exchanging 250 War Supplies to get 10 medals of honor which can then be changed for 1 weapon. War supplies are attainable by doing Shining Blade bounties which are part of War in Kryta and can only be done after completing most or all of EoTN on each character you want to complete them. Over 21 daily bounties, you will get 255 war supplies per character if completed in Hard Mode.

All of which is very long, and very time consuming, considering oppressor weapons can be bought for 75k each. Crafting the destroyer weapons is cheaper then oppressor, but the mats cost the same, more or less, as buying them. You need to finish EoTN before you can craft Destroyer weapons. Tormented weapons are a armbrace (about 22 ectos) each and you need to complete NF and farm DOA for gemsets etc.


For most of the armor, you'll probably get enough materials on the way, the exception being Kurzick/Luxon/Vabbian which require quite rare materials and will probably need to be bought. You can farm the Jade/Amber for the K/L armor, and you could do the quests to get enough Trade Contracts to get the rubies and sapphires for the Vabbian, but it'll take much, much longer.

Lithril Ashwalker

Lithril Ashwalker

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2008

Alabama

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when u want to get vangaurd maxed - work towards doing the keiran quests in hearts of the north quest chain - you can make cash on the side to put towards other titles and get your vanguard title maxed easily

WhiteStorm

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2012

R/Me

Thank you very much for the information guys. It seems that I have a hard way a head ...

Mournblade

Mournblade

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

Houston, Texas

Dawn Treaders [DAWN]

W/Mo

Well it IS a game, so lets hope the struggle is entertaining at the very least.

WhiteStorm

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2012

R/Me

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Originally Posted by Mournblade View Post
Well it IS a game, so lets hope the struggle is entertaining at the very least.
You are right. But farming a lot of money just will take a lot of time.. and farming isn't always that fun.

Would be nice if you could get more points by finishing quests and special quests and stuff.

Star_Jewel

Star_Jewel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2010

Denizen of Tyria since Feb. 2009

For a lot of things, you can do quests to get them. That's the point that was made above -- you can do the War In Kryta quests to get Oppressor Weapons, it would just take more time than buying them directly. You can do a set of quests to get a unique mini pet. A lot of the Honor monument titles are all about completing missions and elite areas.

And as you do those things, you can accumulate part of the wealth you need to buy the things that aren't acquired via quests (birthday minis, elite armor, etc.). And it's not like farming is only limited to one area that you do over and over until you're numb. There are many things and places you can farm, so you can switch it up to what's most fun or most profitable at the given time. It can actually be its own kind of fun.

WhiteStorm

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2012

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Originally Posted by Star_Jewel View Post
For a lot of things, you can do quests to get them. That's the point that was made above -- you can do the War In Kryta quests to get Oppressor Weapons, it would just take more time than buying them directly. You can do a set of quests to get a unique mini pet. A lot of the Honor monument titles are all about completing missions and elite areas.

And as you do those things, you can accumulate part of the wealth you need to buy the things that aren't acquired via quests (birthday minis, elite armor, etc.). And it's not like farming is only limited to one area that you do over and over until you're numb. There are many things and places you can farm, so you can switch it up to what's most fun or most profitable at the given time. It can actually be its own kind of fun.
Thank you very much.

Buuut, I just found a mail, going back to 2010 were I sold my account. I Mailed the guy, maybe I can get my account back (The account is inactive). I also found scans of my original keys and stuff, so maybe I can continue on that one. I Hope so.

Showtime

Showtime

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

WTB Q9+5e Bows/Q8 14^50 Weapons

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Hmm, thank you. But I already started with a ranger :P. I Love rangers BTW.
Game needs to load to much files on my crappy dorm internet .
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EDIT: Also, I'm starting with a ranger. If this is not the best profession to get the points, please coment fast! I'm downloading the game at this moment :P.
Umm you asked and I told you, but have at it. It doesn't matter much and hopefully they will buff the ranger before gw2 hits.

You also want to farm. Rangers currently have a few viable farms. 2 of the mains are SOS and whirling defense. 1 specific is shard farming in FoW and is pretty profitable right now. SOS is better done by rits. Whirling defense you can use in a few places, and isn't too hard, but takes practice like any other farm. Rangers are decent farmer, but sins are generally better farmers. Don't forget to save the Escort quest in Cantha. You need that quest up to farm dragon mosses a good source of plant fiber and a shot at nice dual mod canthan shields, etc.

Rangers are last man picked for HM teams. They have very limited use in HM end content and speed clears. But if you take the time to learn to tank, you may be able to do some fow sc.

Splinter barrage works nicely in areas where enemies clump up. I usually go full ranger and let the SOS rit cast it.

Gone are the days of the B/P and raining death from above. If you play as Kieran (quest), you get to see what we're missing. Gl and hf.

WhiteStorm

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2012

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Originally Posted by Showtime View Post
Umm you asked and I told you, but have at it. It doesn't matter much and hopefully they will buff the ranger before gw2 hits.

You also want to farm. Rangers currently have a few viable farms. 2 of the mains are SOS and whirling defense. 1 specific is shard farming in FoW and is pretty profitable right now. SOS is better done by rits. Whirling defense you can use in a few places, and isn't too hard, but takes practice like any other farm. Rangers are decent farmer, but sins are generally better farmers. Don't forget to save the Escort quest in Cantha. You need that quest up to farm dragon mosses a good source of plant fiber and a shot at nice dual mod canthan shields, etc.

Rangers are last man picked for HM teams. They have very limited use in HM end content and speed clears. But if you take the time to learn to tank, you may be able to do some fow sc.

Splinter barrage works nicely in areas where enemies clump up. I usually go full ranger and let the SOS rit cast it.

Gone are the days of the B/P and raining death from above. If you play as Kieran (quest), you get to see what we're missing. Gl and hf.
Hmm, maybe Ranger isn't the best choice then. I Really don't know .

Also, Getting 50/50 is almost an impossible job ?

Lyv

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2011

Well getting 50/50 is possible, but requires a lot of play time over a few months, especially if you start from scratch.
If you want to be done before GW2, you will need to focus on the most profitable farms (speedclears or pvp are good, trading can be rewarding but a bit tricky) and/or have lots of free time in your hands.

As for Ranger, it's my main char also, and I always play it as R/A, R/D or R/W (sometimes R/P), only using bows to pull mobs...sad but true.
You can still complete the game with it, there are just other alternatives which are much more efficient.

WhiteStorm

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2012

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Originally Posted by Lyv View Post
Well getting 50/50 is possible, but requires a lot of play time over a few months, especially if you start from scratch.
If you want to be done before GW2, you will need to focus on the most profitable farms (speedclears or pvp are good, trading can be rewarding but a bit tricky) and/or have lots of free time in your hands.

As for Ranger, it's my main char also, and I always play it as R/A, R/D or R/W (sometimes R/P), only using bows to pull mobs...sad but true.
You can still complete the game with it, there are just other alternatives which are much more efficient.
And the most efficient character according to you is .. ?

Thank you very much guys.

Lyv

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2011

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Originally Posted by Showtime View Post
Rit, Sin, Mesmer, Necro, Monk, War, Derv, Elem, or Para in that order.
Pretty much this (although I would rate War and Derv higher than Monk, at least when playing with heroes).

However, I advise you pick a class you enjoy, if you go for 50/50 you will likely spend a fair time with it.

WhiteStorm

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2012

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Originally Posted by Lyv View Post
Pretty much this (although I would rate War and Derv higher than Monk, at least when playing with heroes).

However, I advise you pick a class you enjoy, if you go for 50/50 you will likely spend a fair time with it.
Thank you very much for your help.

EtherealSkys

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2010

VKO

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Originally Posted by WhiteStorm View Post

Also, Getting 50/50 is almost an impossible job ?
It's not impossible, just very hard. I picked up the game after the HoM came out, about 2 years ago - and even though all my playing has been concentrated on filling it, I'm still only on 45 points. You've only got months, so while I think 30 points is easily doable, 50 is going to be a push; you'd have to play for quite a few hours every single day.

WhiteStorm

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2012

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Originally Posted by EtherealSkys View Post
It's not impossible, just very hard. I picked up the game after the HoM came out, about 2 years ago - and even though all my playing has been concentrated on filling it, I'm still only on 45 points. You've only got months, so while I think 30 points is easily doable, 50 is going to be a push; you'd have to play for quite a few hours every single day.
Seems hard. How much money did you spend on it?

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Seems hard. How much money did you spend on it?
Let me say this, for example if my friend has 3000K in spare, I can get to 30 rather quickly?

+ Maybe a stupid question: But there are sites offering gold, are these trust worthy ?

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EtherealSkys

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2010

VKO

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Originally Posted by WhiteStorm View Post

Let me say this, for example if my friend has 3000K in spare, I can get to 30 rather quickly?

+ Maybe a stupid question: But there are sites offering gold, are these trust worthy ?

WhiteStorm -
NEVER buy from a gold selling website. It is illegal, breaks EULA, and will get your account banned by Anet. & even if they don't notice, the sites are nearly always run by people who just want to steal your account.

3000k should be able to do 30 though; although some stuff, like hero armor, is so easy to get that it's a waste to buy it instead/

WhiteStorm

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2012

R/Me

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Originally Posted by EtherealSkys View Post
NEVER buy from a gold selling website. It is illegal, breaks EULA, and will get your account banned by Anet. & even if they don't notice, the sites are nearly always run by people who just want to steal your account.

3000k should be able to do 30 though; although some stuff, like hero armor, is so easy to get that it's a waste to buy it instead/
Ok, 3000K Sounds doable, I think. I think I'm starting in Canta with a Ritualist now. (That's the best?) > Or Nightfall with a Dervish, for the heroes.