Wasnt sure exactly which forum this should go in.
I finished my hall last year to 50/50 after playing since factions release(so wasnt a whole lot to do) and pretty much quit since then with the ocasional play. Just waiting for GW2.
However a couple of days ago i saw on the GW2 wiki that the 30 titles maxed title also gets carried over. Something i never did and must of missed before. I have 27 on one char. Have pretty much spent the years getting rare weapon skins and lots of armor sets on every class. Many alts. So never bothered with the consumable titles.
Im wondering if you think its worth spending the next few months on it. Is GWAMM considered better than a full Hall(champion title). I guess spersonally i dont care that much as i would use a GW2 title eventually but it would be nice to have everything done in GW1 after so many hours spent.
I used up all my remaining gold to help a friends HoM & buying massive amount of consumables to speed up the process for them so its gonna be a boring grind of 3000+p. Currently only have ~2k/10k in all 3 titles i would need and i doubt theres many events before gw2 release. Getting from rank10 to kurzick maxed is an option but seems even longer.
When i think about all the gold ive spent on armor sets and weapon skins i could of had these titles so easily in the past.
GWAMM or full HoM
Wbrkr
zwei2stein
People generally consider GWAMM harder and thus carrying more prestige than 50/50 title. GW2guru poll showed that people will prefer to wear it over 50/50 title.
If you are veteran player, You should have enough resources to raise 3000p for consumable titles off stuff you already own.
Salavage runes off alts and heroes, then sell those rare weapons, etc... Anything that is not point giving consumable is to be converted to cash.
If you are veteran player, You should have enough resources to raise 3000p for consumable titles off stuff you already own.
Salavage runes off alts and heroes, then sell those rare weapons, etc... Anything that is not point giving consumable is to be converted to cash.
Fox Reeveheart
My thinking is this....
There is probably more GWAMMs out there than 50/50s, why?
The majority of players that have GW1 and going into GW2 only brought themselves up to 30/50 for the physical rewards and don't care about the later titles. GWAMM has been around for FAR LONGER than the knowledge about rewards for GW2.
So i'm going for 50/50, but I will try for GWAMM afterwards, 50/50 basically requires you to get close to GWAMM anyways.
There is probably more GWAMMs out there than 50/50s, why?
The majority of players that have GW1 and going into GW2 only brought themselves up to 30/50 for the physical rewards and don't care about the later titles. GWAMM has been around for FAR LONGER than the knowledge about rewards for GW2.
So i'm going for 50/50, but I will try for GWAMM afterwards, 50/50 basically requires you to get close to GWAMM anyways.
Lyv
Maxing Kurzick title isn't that long, especially since you already have r10. It would probably take 60-70 hours of vanquishing, which is doable over a few months without too much hassle, if you don't mind repetitive stuff.
With that, you don't need one of the consumable titles (I would advise to skip Sweet Tooth which is the most expensive, except if you want to use non-spammable items).
With that, you don't need one of the consumable titles (I would advise to skip Sweet Tooth which is the most expensive, except if you want to use non-spammable items).
drkn
I got both, but the funny thing is that i'll probably swap them for any new GW2 title i get as soon as possible.
Maya Cerestiez
Hardcore farm easter and birthday for sweets. Use Bunnies, sell golden eggs and cupcakes for a lot.
And yes, GWAMM is imo higher than 50/50
And yes, GWAMM is imo higher than 50/50
Sagittario
I'm getting both titles and will display GWAMM over 50/50.
About where to get money, if you're an old player, you should get 5th, 6th year b-day gift which can be worth a lot.
About where to get money, if you're an old player, you should get 5th, 6th year b-day gift which can be worth a lot.
Xiner
Just a question. How's GWAMM harder than 50/50? Just wondering. :S I mean to get 50/50 you need plenty of titles and achieving GWAMM helps a lot with filling this title monument. Of course you can do a lot of PvP titles.
Just wondering, so i'm not flaming or making any point. Just wondering.
Just wondering, so i'm not flaming or making any point. Just wondering.
Kook~NBK~
If nothing else, gaining the GWAMM title is something to do. 
As for the Kurzick title, one thing that can help speed up the process is taking every Zaishen Quest that gives Kurzick faction as part of the reward - especially Vanquishes. There's a double Luxon/Kurzick point weekend coming up towards the end of May, which can help out a TON if you do those ZVs, ZBs and ZMs on as many characters as possible and then wait to take those quest rewards & turn in the faction until the double points weekend.
As for the Kurzick title, one thing that can help speed up the process is taking every Zaishen Quest that gives Kurzick faction as part of the reward - especially Vanquishes. There's a double Luxon/Kurzick point weekend coming up towards the end of May, which can help out a TON if you do those ZVs, ZBs and ZMs on as many characters as possible and then wait to take those quest rewards & turn in the faction until the double points weekend.
Wbrkr
Well they seem pretty similar in difficulty to me. You wouldnt need to buy all the mini's/zkeys/armors/weapons if going for just 30/50 and the GWAMM title and could buy the consumables instead.
Makes me wonder why anyone bothers if they wont use the title.
I will give the GWAMM a try. 60-70 hours of vanquishing doesnt sound bad, as i will be getting some gold as reward & drops at the same time. Im also trying to do some zaishen dailys and maybe traping each day for keys to sell also.
Makes me wonder why anyone bothers if they wont use the title.
I will give the GWAMM a try. 60-70 hours of vanquishing doesnt sound bad, as i will be getting some gold as reward & drops at the same time. Im also trying to do some zaishen dailys and maybe traping each day for keys to sell also.
Nerel
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Originally Posted by Xiner
Just a question. How's GWAMM harder than 50/50? Just wondering. :S I mean to get 50/50 you need plenty of titles and achieving GWAMM helps a lot with filling this title monument. Of course you can do a lot of PvP titles.
Just wondering, so i'm not flaming or making any point. Just wondering. |
Mouse at Large
I recently completed GWAMM after over 6 years of playing. The way I see it is there are 27 titles which you get pretty close to just by playing PvE pretty thoroughly. I include the skills/carto etc. in this. Then it's a decision - 3 consumables or a mix of consumables and others. I did it by max lucky and party+drunk.
50 in HoM is definately more cash-intensive imo.
50 in HoM is definately more cash-intensive imo.
go cubs
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Originally Posted by Fox Reeveheart
My thinking is this....
There is probably more GWAMMs out there than 50/50s, why? -snip- So i'm going for 50/50, but I will try for GWAMM afterwards, 50/50 basically requires you to get close to GWAMM anyways. |
Gabs88
I'm 49\50 and don't even want the 50\50 mark even though all it takes me is to walk in to the HoM and dedicate an armorset (2 mins). Title isn't cool at all. 39\50 makes you Ghostly Hero, 30 Maxed title God Walking Among Mere Mortals. Why would you wanna be a Champion of the Gods when you can be a God?! ;P
go cubs
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Originally Posted by Gabs88
I'm 49\50 and don't even want the 50\50 mark even though all it takes me is to walk in to the HoM and dedicate an armorset (2 mins). Title isn't cool at all. 39\50 makes you Ghostly Hero, 30 Maxed title God Walking Among Mere Mortals. Why would you wanna be a Champion of the Gods when you can be a God?! ;P
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Songbringer
So, you have 50/50 and just need the con titles? Would you mind posting a link to your HoM?
Maxing lux/kurz can be done in like 2 weeks of semi hardcore to hardcore gameplay using the vanquish sc's. I didn't max either of mine using them so I am using 2 weeks kind of liberally here but I am pretty sure it is about that time...would be no longer then a month.
Maxing lux/kurz can be done in like 2 weeks of semi hardcore to hardcore gameplay using the vanquish sc's. I didn't max either of mine using them so I am using 2 weeks kind of liberally here but I am pretty sure it is about that time...would be no longer then a month.
cosyfiep
consumables: nic. everyweek you can do nic runs and get that moving along,
easter coming up and birthday so more chances at those as well.
me: I still have neither title...my closest to gwamm is only at 26 (and has the cons titles), leaving me with account wide titles for the most part---I figured it would take me about 6 more years of playing to max my chestrunning title
(though I do seem to be getting a lot closer to maxing unlucky with my monk who cant seem to keep a lockpick even at 85%!). and fow armor is still not in my hom ----getting closer though
easter coming up and birthday so more chances at those as well.
me: I still have neither title...my closest to gwamm is only at 26 (and has the cons titles), leaving me with account wide titles for the most part---I figured it would take me about 6 more years of playing to max my chestrunning title
(though I do seem to be getting a lot closer to maxing unlucky with my monk who cant seem to keep a lockpick even at 85%!). and fow armor is still not in my hom ----getting closer though
Songbringer
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Originally Posted by cosyfiep
consumables: nic. everyweek you can do nic runs and get that moving along,
easter coming up and birthday so more chances at those as well. me: I still have neither title...my closest to gwamm is only at 26 (and has the cons titles), leaving me with account wide titles for the most part---I figured it would take me about 6 more years of playing to max my chestrunning title (though I do seem to be getting a lot closer to maxing unlucky with my monk who cant seem to keep a lockpick even at 85%!). and fow armor is still not in my hom ----getting closer though |
Uh don't you still have like some kind of char based titles left then? Those are all easy to get.
cosyfiep
vanquisher and survivor (not doing either of those again).....
jazilla
yeah get the GWAMM. You have the 50/50 and GWAMM at this point is totally worth it to have. The more titles in GW2 the better. I am just glad they decided to give us carryover.
Gill Halendt
Go for it if you feel like doing it. Keep in mind that most HoM rewards will likely retain little to no "prestige" (if there's any...) once the game is launched and new rewards to be obtained in the new game are available.
Daesu
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Hmmm, maybe because you can fill/max the HoM Honor monument with as few as 20 maxed titles, allowing you to avoid having to max some of the longer, grindier titles.
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Since many titles synergize with one another, you might as well go for GWAMM if you are aiming for 50/50. To me, the bigger difference is, to get 50/50, you don't need to get all your needed titles on 1 character so it is less boring.
Nerel
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Originally Posted by Daesu
Lets see, you need 40 statues in max honor to get 50/50. If you don't count any max pvp titles or account-wide titles, I counted 14 of those statues to be non-title or non-maxed title statues. This means you still need 26 maxed titles for 50/50, which allows you to skip things like the 4 cartographer titles compared to GWAMM and that's about it.
Since many titles synergize with one another, you might as well go for GWAMM if you are aiming for 50/50. To me, the bigger difference is, to get 50/50, you don't need to get all your needed titles on 1 character so it is less boring. |
Champion
Commander
Skillz
Gladiator
Hero
Kurzick
Luxon
Fortune
Misfortune
Zaishen
Codex
Non titles that count
Hero x3
Conqueror x6
Looks like 20 to me.
agrios
A Full HoM will surpass GW1, GWAMM will not.
I'd stick with 50/50.
I'd stick with 50/50.
Daesu
@Nerel:
I ignored the pvp stuff and maxed account-wide title statues because those are harder to get (unless you enjoy pvp). These are the 14 easier-to-get non-title or non-maxed title statues:
Eternal Savior of the Kurzicks (only r4 needed)
Eternal Savior of the Luxons (only r4 needed)
Eternal Fortune (only r2 needed)
Eternal Misfortune (only r2 needed)
Eternal Hero of Tyria
Eternal Hero of Cantha
Eternal Hero of Elona
Eternal Conqueror of Sorrow's Furnace
Eternal Conqueror of the Deep
Eternal Conqueror of Urgoz's Warren
Eternal Conqueror of the Fissure of Woe
Eternal Conqueror of the Domain of Anguish
Eternal Conqueror of the Underworld
Eternal Zaishen Supporter (can be obtained without pvp) (only r3 needed)
Assuming you got all these 14 statues, you still need 26 more to max Honor in HoM. The maxed title statues are left. These are the typical ones:
3 misc titles:
Eternal Defender of Ascalon
Eternal Survivor
Eternal Master of the North
2 LS+SS titles:
Eternal Lightbringer
Eternal Spearmarshal
4 EOTN allegiance titles:
Eternal Bookah
Eternal Delver
Eternal Slayer
Eternal Ebon Vanguard Agent
7 Guardian/Protector titles:
Eternal Guardian of Tyria
Eternal Protector of Tyria
Eternal Guardian of Cantha
Eternal Protector of Cantha
Eternal Guardian of Elona
Eternal Protector of Elona
Eternal Legendary Guardian
4 VQ titles:
Eternal Tyrian Vanquisher
Eternal Canthan Vanquisher
Eternal Elonian Vanquisher
Eternal Legendary Vanquisher
4 skill hunters titles:
Eternal Tyrian Skill Hunter
Eternal Canthan Skill Hunter
Eternal Elonian Skill Hunter
Eternal Legendary Skill Hunter
Total 24 titles. 24 + 14 = 38. Get 2 more cons title statues:
Eternal Ale-Hound
Eternal Party Animal
Now you have maxed your Honor in HoM with 26 title statues. All you needed to get GWAMM from there is to max your 4 Cartographer titles to reach 30 titles.
Since titles synergize, you probably already get 90+% in your Cartographer titles after getting your VQ titles anyway.
I ignored the pvp stuff and maxed account-wide title statues because those are harder to get (unless you enjoy pvp). These are the 14 easier-to-get non-title or non-maxed title statues:
Eternal Savior of the Kurzicks (only r4 needed)
Eternal Savior of the Luxons (only r4 needed)
Eternal Fortune (only r2 needed)
Eternal Misfortune (only r2 needed)
Eternal Hero of Tyria
Eternal Hero of Cantha
Eternal Hero of Elona
Eternal Conqueror of Sorrow's Furnace
Eternal Conqueror of the Deep
Eternal Conqueror of Urgoz's Warren
Eternal Conqueror of the Fissure of Woe
Eternal Conqueror of the Domain of Anguish
Eternal Conqueror of the Underworld
Eternal Zaishen Supporter (can be obtained without pvp) (only r3 needed)
Assuming you got all these 14 statues, you still need 26 more to max Honor in HoM. The maxed title statues are left. These are the typical ones:
3 misc titles:
Eternal Defender of Ascalon
Eternal Survivor
Eternal Master of the North
2 LS+SS titles:
Eternal Lightbringer
Eternal Spearmarshal
4 EOTN allegiance titles:
Eternal Bookah
Eternal Delver
Eternal Slayer
Eternal Ebon Vanguard Agent
7 Guardian/Protector titles:
Eternal Guardian of Tyria
Eternal Protector of Tyria
Eternal Guardian of Cantha
Eternal Protector of Cantha
Eternal Guardian of Elona
Eternal Protector of Elona
Eternal Legendary Guardian
4 VQ titles:
Eternal Tyrian Vanquisher
Eternal Canthan Vanquisher
Eternal Elonian Vanquisher
Eternal Legendary Vanquisher
4 skill hunters titles:
Eternal Tyrian Skill Hunter
Eternal Canthan Skill Hunter
Eternal Elonian Skill Hunter
Eternal Legendary Skill Hunter
Total 24 titles. 24 + 14 = 38. Get 2 more cons title statues:
Eternal Ale-Hound
Eternal Party Animal
Now you have maxed your Honor in HoM with 26 title statues. All you needed to get GWAMM from there is to max your 4 Cartographer titles to reach 30 titles.
Since titles synergize, you probably already get 90+% in your Cartographer titles after getting your VQ titles anyway.
Pyrthas
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A Full HoM will surpass GW1, GWAMM will not.
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Fay Vert
50/50 is really easy compared to GWAMM. I don't care about the prestige or how many others have it, I was a lot happier getting GWAMM than 50/50 so GWAMM all the way.
recon54
GWAMM is definitely more difficult than 50/50 because you are always working on 50/50 no matter which character you are using because it is account based not character based like GWAMM is. The only time GWAMM is account based is when you are getting account based titles like any PvP title or Lucky/Unlucky or Treasure Hunter or Wisdom.
Daesu
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50/50 is really easy compared to GWAMM. I don't care about the prestige or how many others have it, I was a lot happier getting GWAMM than 50/50 so GWAMM all the way.
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GWAMM is definitely more difficult than 50/50 because you are always working on 50/50 no matter which character you are using because it is account based not character based like GWAMM is. The only time GWAMM is account based is when you are getting account based titles like any PvP title or Lucky/Unlucky or Treasure Hunter or Wisdom.
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Like I have said above, if you don't count the pvp titles and account-wide maxed titles, it is only 4 maxed titles difference between GWAMM and maxed Honor. In other words, it is only a matter of maxing your 90+% cartographer on all 3 continents to 100% difference in effort. Effort-wise they are almost the same.
However, 50/50 is not just a test of determination but also a test of the ability to gain great wealth in the game. This shows because there are some GWAMMs that are still not 50/50. Overall, I think 50/50 makes a more well-rounded player since you can get GWAMM without even visiting a single elite area or maybe just Slavers NM.
BenjZee
I knew a player from my guild started a year ago and is now 50/50 and almost gwamm, so i think its deffinatly easy to ahold of titles on your own in no time. Heroe's and Zquests are the biggest help. Peresonally i didnt find any of them "THAT" difficult ive i found i had most my titles quite high up over the years anyway.
I have maxed both however the only issue i see is that people are forcing themselves to play gw1 just for gw2 cosmetic changes. They need to understand the items in gw2 mean nothing special and they don't make you better than others.
I have maxed both however the only issue i see is that people are forcing themselves to play gw1 just for gw2 cosmetic changes. They need to understand the items in gw2 mean nothing special and they don't make you better than others.
Da Kenster
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I got both, but the funny thing is that i'll probably swap them for any new GW2 title i get as soon as possible.
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I want my first new title to be "Little Bunny Fufu", obtained by spamming the jump key x number of times on release day, or some other nonsense.
maraxusofk
I could get GWAMM if i just finished my vanquishing and legendary survivor, but I'm bored of this game and don't want to put up with the grind.
Gondrakif
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Assuming you got all these 14 statues, you still need 26 more to max Honor in HoM. The maxed title statues are left. These are the typical ones:
3 misc titles: Eternal Defender of Ascalon Eternal Survivor Eternal Master of the North 2 LS+SS titles: Eternal Lightbringer Eternal Spearmarshal 4 EOTN allegiance titles: Eternal Bookah Eternal Delver Eternal Slayer Eternal Ebon Vanguard Agent 7 Guardian/Protector titles: Eternal Guardian of Tyria Eternal Protector of Tyria Eternal Guardian of Cantha Eternal Protector of Cantha Eternal Guardian of Elona Eternal Protector of Elona Eternal Legendary Guardian 4 VQ titles: Eternal Tyrian Vanquisher Eternal Canthan Vanquisher Eternal Elonian Vanquisher Eternal Legendary Vanquisher 4 skill hunters titles: Eternal Tyrian Skill Hunter Eternal Canthan Skill Hunter Eternal Elonian Skill Hunter Eternal Legendary Skill Hunter Total 24 titles. 24 + 14 = 38. Get 2 more cons title statues: Eternal Ale-Hound Eternal Party Animal Now you have maxed your Honor in HoM with 26 title statues. All you needed to get GWAMM from there is to max your 4 Cartographer titles to reach 30 titles. Since titles synergize, you probably already get 90+% in your Cartographer titles after getting your VQ titles anyway. |
Your mistake is thinking that someone would pick vanquisher over cartographer. When going for the 26 max titles (50/50 hom) people will choose the easy ones aka all except vanquishers. Cartographer in nm is done in 1-2 days with texmod and has synergy with all the other titles. In the same time frame you can get at most half a vq title, that makes picking cartographer a no-brainer. So after you get your hom titles there is quite a bit of work left (121 vanquishes) for gwamm.
Daesu
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Your mistake is thinking that someone would pick vanquisher over cartographer. When going for the 26 max titles (50/50 hom) people will choose the easy ones aka all except vanquishers. Cartographer in nm is done in 1-2 days with texmod and has synergy with all the other titles. In the same time frame you can get at most half a vq title, that makes picking cartographer a no-brainer. So after you get your hom titles there is quite a bit of work left (121 vanquishes) for gwamm.
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Master Archer Nente
I believe that they are both prestigious in their own way. I have GWAMM and 50/50 and I will probably display them both on different characters.
I think the distinction between them is that 50/50 required you to spend money on miniatures, armor, weapons, hero armors and get a bunch of titles.
And GWAMM means you spent a lot of time playing through the various parts of the game.
I also believe that if you aim for 50/50 you might aswell get GWAMM along with it since 50/50 usually gets you 20-25+ titles on a character (assuming you did those titles on one character)
I'm the complete opposite. After getting my Legendary Vanquisher I never want to vanquish again, yet I love cartographer and have 3 GMC of Elona, 2 of tyria, 1 of cantha and am still working on getting more. (I've also done a few for friends) Guess it just depends on what you enjoy about this game.
Personally, even if I won't wear it... I want to have it.
Great thing about this game... you can do what you like.
Eh it can be less if you are a PvP player. If you get glad, codex, champion, and hero into HoM it becomes only 22 for 50/50.... but this doesn't apply for most people.
I think the distinction between them is that 50/50 required you to spend money on miniatures, armor, weapons, hero armors and get a bunch of titles.
And GWAMM means you spent a lot of time playing through the various parts of the game.
I also believe that if you aim for 50/50 you might aswell get GWAMM along with it since 50/50 usually gets you 20-25+ titles on a character (assuming you did those titles on one character)
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I choose vanquisher over cartographer because I hate edge scraping personally so I got my vanquisher title a lot faster than cartographer. I think vanquisher is easy and certainly more enjoyable but to each his own. It doesn't matter if you choose cartographer over vanquisher because my point remains unchanged. You still would need 26 maxed titles for maxed Honor without pvp titles.
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Makes me wonder why anyone bothers if they wont use the title.
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Actually it gets you 26 maxed titles to be 50/50, so you only need 4 more to be GWAMM, but with title synergies the 4 are easy to obtain.
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Eh it can be less if you are a PvP player. If you get glad, codex, champion, and hero into HoM it becomes only 22 for 50/50.... but this doesn't apply for most people.
Daesu
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I believe that they are both prestigious in their own way. I have GWAMM and 50/50 and I will probably display them both on different characters.
I think the distinction between them is that 50/50 required you to spend money on miniatures, armor, weapons, hero armors and get a bunch of titles. And GWAMM means you spent a lot of time playing through the various parts of the game. I also believe that if you aim for 50/50 you might aswell get GWAMM along with it since 50/50 usually gets you 20-25+ titles on a character (assuming you did those titles on one character) I'm the complete opposite. After getting my Legendary Vanquisher I never want to vanquish again, yet I love cartographer and have 3 GMC of Elona, 2 of tyria, 1 of cantha and am still working on getting more. (I've also done a few for friends) Guess it just depends on what you enjoy about this game. |
I like vanquishing because I enjoy killing monsters, edge scraping in a game just doesn't appeal to me.