I'm going to keep this short and sweet (or not).
The dishonorable that is given to people who "stand" around in PvP shouldn’t exist (I'm talking about the one you get if you aren’t reported). It doesn't full fill its purpose. If I was really leaching 10mins is NOTHING to deter me and to people who were actually playing it's not fair.
Anet please get rid of this it is useless and aggravating.
New "Dishonorable" Rules
I Rahavan I
Dewshine Wildclaw
And how exactly does/can this bother you? Unless you of.c. is one of those that stand still a bit too much...
drkn
If you're standing in one place, doing nothing, you are leeching. AFKing with several accounts at once during JQ matches only to generate Imp and Balth faction is NOT cool and frequent abusers should be banned, even if only temporarily, not just dishonored.
superraptors
only aggravating thing i find about dishonor is that you aren't allowed to leave when you got idiots on your team(mostly RA).
HigherMinion
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only aggravating thing i find about dishonor is that you aren't allowed to leave when you got idiots on your team(mostly RA).
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Jeydra
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only aggravating thing i find about dishonor is that you aren't allowed to leave when you got idiots on your team(mostly RA).
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superraptors
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Originally Posted by HigherMinion
That's clearly what he's getting at... It's pretty dumb, though. Just fight it out. It's called Random Arenas because it doesn't always spit out perfect teams. I don't see how so many people want to grind that title to max, because it ain't gonna max before gw2, kids. Have fun with the arena and report leechers and those fags who stand still when "all is lost".
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secondly someone has already achieved max glad.
thirdly no one is talking about titles.
the dishonor system should only be made for leecher's that's all and shouldn't punish the people who actually want to play that includes not wanting to play with idiots who are still stuck in 2005 using firestorm on rangers and flare on warriors, or both.
chullster
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I don't see how so many people want to grind that title to max, because it ain't gonna max before gw2, kids.
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Not much of an achievement considering that guild used to and many others still stack the teams in their favour.
In the easiest arena in the game, it's comical.
Lordkrall
RA was never supposed to be competitive. It was always RANDOM. For competitive PvP we had Team Arena, and still have HA and GvG.
Gabs88
Stood around in aspenwood healing turtle a full round keeping 2 guys at bay trying to kill it. Dishonorable! (we won) 5 min break
Stood around messing with a turtle tank, nobody came to help me and we had 2 afkers so had to have turtles to win. Dishonorable. 5 min break
Reported said two leechers couple of rounds later, only me and 1 other guy reported them, hence we got the dishonor points. Dishonorable. 5 min break
Sensing a pattern? The dishonor system is broken beyond all belief.
Actually, thinking about it the turtle tank i mentioned earlier probably must've gotten dishonorable as well. After all, he only tanked 2 turtles for a full round? That's not contributing to the victory at all!
Stood around messing with a turtle tank, nobody came to help me and we had 2 afkers so had to have turtles to win. Dishonorable. 5 min break
Reported said two leechers couple of rounds later, only me and 1 other guy reported them, hence we got the dishonor points. Dishonorable. 5 min break
Sensing a pattern? The dishonor system is broken beyond all belief.
Actually, thinking about it the turtle tank i mentioned earlier probably must've gotten dishonorable as well. After all, he only tanked 2 turtles for a full round? That's not contributing to the victory at all!
Aeronwen
Also, standing by a gatekeeper with amber waiting for the green gate to fall can be a game winning tactic. Clearly whoever implemented this does not actually play the game.
Coast
solution for ra: remove gladpoints+ boxes,put back ta and put the rewards in ta
solved
solved
Missing HB
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solution for ra: remove gladpoints+ boxes,put back ta and put the rewards in ta
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I can conceive that RA is random, so you have to deal with bad players, elitist players, etc.. But the fact is there are people trying to sync the title. It's not really fun when you have 4 melees for an hour while some others are syncing their title. Superraptors does have a point here.
The same applies for Codex . It's supposed to be played with 4 humans against 4 humans, but people are going through the rule with multiple accounts.
Worse : rollerbeetle racing. Players are going in with multiple accounts again to get top scores and the reward, while you get dishonor if you leave the match. What's the logic in this...
Rules are fine when everyone respect these.
Lanier
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oh right because this game isn't supposed to be competitive is it? everyone wants to win regardless if you have the perfect team or not and you can't win with idiots.
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I (and everyone else it seems) like the idea that has been floating around forever of restoring TA and putting the 4v4 rewards into that format. That way, people like superraptors don't have to play with "idiots" (and "idiots" dont have to play with them...).
superraptors
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RA was never supposed to be competitive. It was always RANDOM. For competitive PvP we had Team Arena, and still have HA and GvG.
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ha = dead
gvg = dead except for ats
and also 4v4 =/= 8v8 formats
hush buddy.
MithranArkanere
There is absolutely no reason to stand still doing nothing in PvP.
Period.
Period.
Andemius
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There is absolutely no reason to stand still doing nothing in PvP.
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I see no reason for you to be standing around otherwise though.
Lordkrall
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random team setup =/= not competitive
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A team with 4 warriors will most likely never win against a team with an ele, a mesmer, a monk and necro.
superraptors
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A random setup can NEVER be considered as real competitive. Seeing as, guess what, it is RANDOM so people are not on even footing. In order to be on even footing you will need to have same possible teams as the other side.
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random team setup has nothing to do with being competitiveness(you should look up the definition of 'competition') to begin with.
BOTH teams have a RANDOM setup therefore they should be on an even footing, apparently the really idiotic players(you are probably one of them, no offense intended) puts this out of balance.
fyi if a team of warriors in an at can win, then they can certainly win in ra.
before you spew anymore crap and lowering everyones iq, just think before you post.
Lordkrall
Love the apparent need to attack everyone not thinking the exact same way as you.
You do not improve your "competitive position" in a random game, seeing as there are no real goal, and no real winner.
Of course both are random, and that also means it can't be seen as "real" competition". Good luck finding a e-sport/other competition that consists of two completely RANDOM groups.
Haha, calling me a "really idiotic player" and then saying that you mean no offense? Funny really.
The thing is however at an AT the team is SYNCED with each other, which is not the case in a RANDOM setup.
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Of course both are random, and that also means it can't be seen as "real" competition". Good luck finding a e-sport/other competition that consists of two completely RANDOM groups.
Haha, calling me a "really idiotic player" and then saying that you mean no offense? Funny really.
The thing is however at an AT the team is SYNCED with each other, which is not the case in a RANDOM setup.
superraptors
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Love the apparent need to attack everyone not thinking the exact same way as you.
You do not improve your "competitive position" in a random game, seeing as there are no real goal, and no real winner. Of course both are random, and that also means it can't be seen as "real" competition". Good luck finding a e-sport/other competition that consists of two completely RANDOM groups. Haha, calling me a "really idiotic player" and then saying that you mean no offense? Funny really. The thing is however at an AT the team is SYNCED with each other, which is not the case in a RANDOM setup. |
and ra isn't about whether it qualifies for an e-sport or not(which obviously doesn't, thanks for pointing it out captain obvious) the point is to win when you are facing other players not to lose because you have an idiot which brings the team down.
Lordkrall
In order for something to be real competitive both sides needs to have an even footing. This is not true if you have no power what so ever about how your team will look.
Would the WC in soccer be considered a real competition if all teams were randomly assigned a few minutes before each match?
Would the WC in soccer be considered a real competition if all teams were randomly assigned a few minutes before each match?
Fire Turok
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In order for something to be real competitive both sides needs to have an even footing. This is not true if you have no power what so ever about how your team will look.
Would the WC in soccer be considered a real competition if all teams were randomly assigned a few minutes before each match? |
bhavv
I farm JQ on my monk sometimes. I take the shortest juggernaught path and fall back / make haste the juggie, run it back and forth, and stand still healing the NPCs if under attack, and recapture the quarry with 16 smiting roj if it gets captured.
I could potentially get dishonoured for the most powerful game winning tactic in JQ now, that's just silly. Occassionally I can single handedly capture purple, then run to and capture green and get the green juggernaught back to base easily if the luxons don't have any defenders on the green quary. But I will be stood still for long periods of time watching and keeping the purple quary safe.
I could potentially get dishonoured for the most powerful game winning tactic in JQ now, that's just silly. Occassionally I can single handedly capture purple, then run to and capture green and get the green juggernaught back to base easily if the luxons don't have any defenders on the green quary. But I will be stood still for long periods of time watching and keeping the purple quary safe.
chris12xu
Move around every once in a while is not to much to ask if you are standing still for 10 min in a CM or in RA than you are being useless and there is something better you can be doing. Saying that the "the most powerful game winning tactic in JQ now" involves standing still for 10 min is kinda weird because its not true and the fact that you say it is a game winning tactic is "just silly". The only reason you can even do that is because the other team is probably all people who don't play/care/understand JQ and how it works or all bots. Capping empty shrines really isn't that impressive anyone can do that its hardly making you a "game winning" player.
In any event standing still for 10 min = being useless so imo you deserve dishonorable
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In any event standing still for 10 min = being useless so imo you deserve dishonorable
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