Is it forbidden to buy "customized dupe" items?
Captain Bulldozer
Whether or not you can be banned for BUYING duped items, I can't say. However, you should strongly consider NOT buying them, as in the past Anet not only banned people who bought and sold dupes, but they also deleted a bunch of the duped items. So, even if you won't get banned, you could easily be throwing your money away.
Relyk
It's forbidden to buy/sell duped items.
Dimmuborgir Satan
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Arent all "duped" items in these days "customized"??
Wont u be able to distinguish these from others? By looking at the customization.
This thread is actually just about those "customized" sapphires, etc...
Arent all "duped" items in these days "customized"??
Wont u be able to distinguish these from others? By looking at the customization.
This thread is actually just about those "customized" sapphires, etc...
Olle
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Arent all "duped" items in these days "customized"?? Wont u be able to distinguish these from others? By looking at the customization. This thread is actually just about those "customized" sapphires, etc... |
DUPED strongboxes can turn into noncostumized minis, tonics, weps ect
DUPED coffers turns into noncostumized mallyxes and other gems,armbraces..
DUPED Flames/golden flames of balthazar turning into noncostumized zkeys
DUPED zaishen coins turns into noncostumized keys,tomes, zkeys, envoys ect.
IF that works, we got a huge problem(with everything)+ knowing what is duped and what is not.
Enchanted Krystal
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Though IF duping exists, and IF they can actually dupe many items, think this:
DUPED strongboxes can turn into noncostumized minis, tonics, weps ect DUPED coffers turns into noncostumized mallyxes and other gems,armbraces.. DUPED Flames/golden flames of balthazar turning into noncostumized zkeys DUPED zaishen coins turns into noncostumized keys,tomes, zkeys, envoys ect. IF that works, we got a huge problem(with everything)+ knowing what is duped and what is not. |
EDIT: Happy thought....Least my Magmas are safe!
aefghuys
this marks the official death of guild wars. comes at a pretty bad time too with diablo 3 coming out tomorrow
Mcsnake85
I have just one question:
If you buy an "customized for" item, you know that is dupped, and anet can punish you..ok perfect..
BUT if you buy something that look LEGIT, like a normal ecto or normal zkey, but they discover that is dupped, can they ban you?
If you buy an "customized for" item, you know that is dupped, and anet can punish you..ok perfect..
BUT if you buy something that look LEGIT, like a normal ecto or normal zkey, but they discover that is dupped, can they ban you?
Lordkrall
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I have just one question:
If you buy an "customized for" item, you know that is dupped, and anet can punish you..ok perfect.. BUT if you buy something that look LEGIT, like a normal ecto or normal zkey, but they discover that is dupped, can they ban you? |
If you pay a resonable price for it then it is most likely not duped. If you however pay MUCH lower then the normal price they might act, since it quite clear that you would have known said item was duped.
Mcsnake85
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If you pay a resonable price for it then it is most likely not duped. If you however pay MUCH lower then the normal price they might act, since it quite clear that you would have known said item was duped.
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What they do in this case?
Lordkrall
If they can't prove that the person bought it knowingly, probably nothing.
Someone buying several stacks of ectos at the moment would probably look rather suspect though, even if they payed a "normal" price.
Someone buying several stacks of ectos at the moment would probably look rather suspect though, even if they payed a "normal" price.
drkn
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If you pay a resonable price |
Sure, if someone offers you five hundred ectos for 2k each something's fishy, same if someone wants to sell you seven Kuunavangs for 100k total, but taking advantage of people not knowing the 'market values' of items != knowingly buying duped stuff. Last time i checked, exploiting the market and vulturing on less market-interested people wasn't a bannable offence.
The OPs question is whether he'll get banned for buying a single customised sapphire (or other oddity got thanks to duping). I'd guess that no - and even if, it'd be pretty easy to convince the support to lift the ban, with all the history of collecting oddities and not really partaking in the whole bug exploitation on not only massive, but even noticeable scale.
I wouldn't buy a stack of customised materials, though, even for their 'real value'; even if it doesn't make you get hit with the banhammer, said stack will most likely, eventually, get deleted.
zwei2stein
Gill Halendt
How can they tell you knew?
They can also check chat logs.
Expect a lot of transactions involving potentially duped items to be checked for a while, and chat logs between the trader and the buyer to be analyzed. This is likely the way some purchasers of duped Mallyx miniatures were caught.
Still, I believe duped sapphires will be soon removed from the game anyway. They can easily track and identify them, as opposed to perfectly-legit-looking-but-actually-duped miniatures.
They can also check chat logs.
Expect a lot of transactions involving potentially duped items to be checked for a while, and chat logs between the trader and the buyer to be analyzed. This is likely the way some purchasers of duped Mallyx miniatures were caught.
Still, I believe duped sapphires will be soon removed from the game anyway. They can easily track and identify them, as opposed to perfectly-legit-looking-but-actually-duped miniatures.
drkn
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They can also check chat logs. |
+ of course it is, just as fifteen more! let your guildies know!
- oh okay, thanks
OR
- meh, i'm not buying that salma, it smells of a dupe, 30k is way too low to be legit
+ no come on, i just got it from doing wik and want to sell it and get more white minis for hom, i don't need a gold pet anymore, and i don't want to waste time selling it
- [pays 70k just because of banhammer paranoia]
impulsion
So many people know nothing about anything but still blabbing their mouth off
Gabs88
Mcsnake85
drkn
According to some, it depends on how much you've payed for it
Gabs88
Mcsnake85
Yeah ok..but as i said there is a way to avoid them..i make an example so its easier to understand..
lets suppose i have over 1000k and i want conver them to ectos, like always.
Ill go then to kamadan and i spam the WTB xxe=100k, lets suppose they worth 8k to merchant, so the price will be -500g/-1k at best.
So, ill try to buy 14/15e = 100k...for now all ok.
lets suppose someone selling them for that price, that is a normal price. I buy them and they look Legit (no customized or something else).
So now, i got the ectos that someone traded me for a normal and legit price. But let suppose they were "dupped", how can i know if there is nothing strange in them? Anet can ban me anyway even i bought them in good faith?
And the Big question is, the "dupped" ectos/Zkeys/Sapphire/Rubies can look "normal" or there is always the phrase "customized for xxxxx"??
That for sure, finally i can sell items for real cash in Diablo III, 1 extra reason to buy it
lets suppose i have over 1000k and i want conver them to ectos, like always.
Ill go then to kamadan and i spam the WTB xxe=100k, lets suppose they worth 8k to merchant, so the price will be -500g/-1k at best.
So, ill try to buy 14/15e = 100k...for now all ok.
lets suppose someone selling them for that price, that is a normal price. I buy them and they look Legit (no customized or something else).
So now, i got the ectos that someone traded me for a normal and legit price. But let suppose they were "dupped", how can i know if there is nothing strange in them? Anet can ban me anyway even i bought them in good faith?
And the Big question is, the "dupped" ectos/Zkeys/Sapphire/Rubies can look "normal" or there is always the phrase "customized for xxxxx"??
That for sure, finally i can sell items for real cash in Diablo III, 1 extra reason to buy it
Lordkrall
They won't ban someone if it is clear they bought stuff in good faith.
Gabs88
Mcsnake85
Lordkrall
They won't ban random people here either. Unless said person bought several stacks of items known to be duped.
Martin Alvito
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Correction: They possibly and probably will but you will have a good chance of fighting the ban if it happens.
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http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...7&postcount=29
I think that the same account having 8 ded pandas came out on another website. IIRC it was the same character name "Caya Is Imba" in the screenshot, which no longer works at all (probably due to deletion of the character by the player).
Gill Halendt
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- hey, dude, why are you selling this mallyx so cheap, is it duped?
+ of course it is, just as fifteen more! let your guildies know! - oh okay, thanks OR - meh, i'm not buying that salma, it smells of a dupe, 30k is way too low to be legit + no come on, i just got it from doing wik and want to sell it and get more white minis for hom, i don't need a gold pet anymore, and i don't want to waste time selling it - [pays 70k just because of banhammer paranoia] |
They have multiple instruments to investigate, and chat logs review is one of them.
Off course they can't just tell by just reading through chat logs alone, as much as they won't simply ban people on a whim for purchasing duped items.
Martin Alvito
A particularly vile thought just occurred to me. Anyone else notice the daily, cyclical fluctuations in ecto prices in between the last two birthday events?
Well, we don't know how long this dupe has been in existence, but there's no reason to believe it hasn't been around for a long, long time. And you know what would be the best way to launder duped, customized ectos?
Set up your machine to dupe overnight while you sleep. Come back in the morning and tell it to sell them all to the trader. Come back home at the end of the day and tell the machine to buy the ectos back from the trader. Then have the machine dupe overnight while you sleep. Rinse, repeat.
There's no telling how deep this particular rabbit hole goes.
Well, we don't know how long this dupe has been in existence, but there's no reason to believe it hasn't been around for a long, long time. And you know what would be the best way to launder duped, customized ectos?
Set up your machine to dupe overnight while you sleep. Come back in the morning and tell it to sell them all to the trader. Come back home at the end of the day and tell the machine to buy the ectos back from the trader. Then have the machine dupe overnight while you sleep. Rinse, repeat.
There's no telling how deep this particular rabbit hole goes.
Baretata
There's virtually no way of knowing if a dedicated pet is legit or not. Anet had plenty of time to take action if they wanted to. Banning an honest trader for acquiring a miniature at a good price or stealing/deleting his items would be too low... even for NCsoft and Anet who are the lowest of the low when it comes to customer care/community relations. We shouldn't pay for their negligence so if they wanted the supposedly 'duped' items removed they had plenty of time to investigate/act which apparently they did not. Another option though also unfair but bearable would be deleting the supposedly 'duped' item and restoring the buyers' orginal credit/ cash/ arms/ ectos/ items after banning the alleged 'duper'.
Craven Skulk
I guess there are many ways anet could act. They Ban Duper And buyer, if both made ridicoulous profit with duped items. They remove duped items if they were bought regardless of being obviously duped. They WONT remove if it wasnt sure that duped and trade price was okay. Limited Items may be handled with other methods, but idc, i WONT buy any of em the next time. Guess all is summed up now , we answered Dimmus question and we can stop repeating same answers and questions.
Sincerely , Craven.
Sincerely , Craven.
uhn
Are all the minis that are duped dedicated?
Craven Skulk
No, they are customized, but to decustomize em u have to dedicate them.Was The old hom method, so a Ded pet doesnt mean duped Pet.
zwei2stein
Coast
well, ive seen unded duped zhed last week...
Rushin Roulette
How do you know it was duped in that case Coast? It could haev been from a legitimate 7th Birthday present (Zhed has been confirmed to drop from them if Im not mistaken).
Was the minature customized but not dedicated, or just a regular minipet without any mention of customization or dedication?
Was the minature customized but not dedicated, or just a regular minipet without any mention of customization or dedication?
Coast
cus the guy told me?
Also, he doesn't troll about this stuff.
Also, he doesn't troll about this stuff.
Rushin Roulette
Thanks for the infos Coast... damn.
So in other words there really is no way to see which items are duped and which are legit any more . And I was hoping it would stay with the wierd "Customized to XXX" on duped items... but apparently it is not so. I hope Anet can once again sort out this mess and bann the players who were actively duping. It just sucks big time for the players who bought the duped items in good faith if the items are removed later.
So in other words there really is no way to see which items are duped and which are legit any more . And I was hoping it would stay with the wierd "Customized to XXX" on duped items... but apparently it is not so. I hope Anet can once again sort out this mess and bann the players who were actively duping. It just sucks big time for the players who bought the duped items in good faith if the items are removed later.
spun ducky
Well since someone else with less vested interest already leaked it I figured I would clear up a few things. I originally said materials and the like were being created this was true, however other things were being created in fact there are now more than 1 complete set of the everlasting henchmen tonics.
I also want to point out minipets were created in fact a decent bit of them. A good example of this is Fereos was traded 5 pandas for his legit kanaxi. I bring this up as we are going to talk about how to wash dirty money.
Everything was spawned customized I mean everything, however if you spawned a birthday present and opened it you got a non customized item. So lets take a step further the minipets were customized but you could fix this by dedicating them to HoM. I think you can see where I am going with this why do you think Ferreos got 5 ded pandas.
I think david moonbow may feel some pain from this as well as his EL tonics are no longer unique among other higher end traders. It will hurt the price of minis/tonics in the long run that is for sure.
So to Dimmuborgir Satan if you want one of these items for your collection buy a panda off of Ferreos I just wouldn't pay too much as it is a counterfeit.
I also want to point out minipets were created in fact a decent bit of them. A good example of this is Fereos was traded 5 pandas for his legit kanaxi. I bring this up as we are going to talk about how to wash dirty money.
Everything was spawned customized I mean everything, however if you spawned a birthday present and opened it you got a non customized item. So lets take a step further the minipets were customized but you could fix this by dedicating them to HoM. I think you can see where I am going with this why do you think Ferreos got 5 ded pandas.
I think david moonbow may feel some pain from this as well as his EL tonics are no longer unique among other higher end traders. It will hurt the price of minis/tonics in the long run that is for sure.
So to Dimmuborgir Satan if you want one of these items for your collection buy a panda off of Ferreos I just wouldn't pay too much as it is a counterfeit.
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his EL tonics are no longer unique |
from what i read they removed all items but those bought from NPC trader and traded ingame to others
like they couldnt be tracked
David Moonbow
i would like to see the duped el hench tonic first since i still have a set of mine i would have to see it to believe it sorry, and me and ward have been hunting down el henchies for sometime now and the current active owners are not selling for any price so highly doubt it till i see two el henchman tonics of the same kind
PowerRAV
Wouldn't they have to get their hands on your EL Hench tonic in order to dupe it? If they can't dupe your hench tonic then yours will still be unique one of a kind and I don't see that affecting the price of it, even if the other hench tonics are duped.