HoM This, HoM That!

Then join a new active guild and make new friends. There are lots of players who are still new to this game. I joined a new guild and my alliance never seem to run out of new players asking for help.

I find that the best way of rekindling my enjoyment in this game, is to make a new character all over again.

Been wandering through guilds lately, right now I just want to settle down.

It's just that I prefer doing something else instead of playing GW after well over 25k hours of play.

Absolutely.

I'm an altoholic, having around 40 characters scattered through three different accounts. Loved it every time

I'm just passing time here and there until GW2 is out. Recently have been going for 30/50 on my second account just in case I need a second account for GW2.

Lets be honest - most people getting in the game these days are here because they heard about GW2.

Those that clearly were interested in GW by itself are done with game for ages - I'm closing on 10000 hours in 6 years of the game - that is over 1 year.

And look at Gill here - it is almost 3 full years of playing in a game that is 7 years old.

How many people will even reach 4000 hours?

Not many, that's for sure. I think I'm realistically at 4500ish actual hours across all my accounts, not counting both when I'm duo'ing on 2 accounts etc.

People who were seriously into PVP at its height have loads of hours, it's why my brother has over 10k hours.

I average about 8,500 hours on each of my 2 7-years old accounts (so about 17k total) but I dont think that I play as much as most people here.

This.

Since I was 46/50 before the beta, I'll end up with 50/50 strictly because I want GWAMM and titles are all I have left to do in HoM. After playing the beta, I've stopped caring about HoM. Now I just help my brother fill out his HoM and collect stuff. I still hope that by launch GW2 has polished into something I would enjoy playing, but I'm honestly not holding my breath.

That is over 6 hours per day, every day for the last 7 years (if you played for 7 years).

Sure we all have a few hundred hours logged without actually being there, but still...

5+ hours/day gaming is hard core territory.

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Other than stuff that is beta related like latency and crap performance, the game seemed polished enough and keeps improving as you advance.

I'm always amazed how some people say "I won't like GW2", or "I played BETA and it sucked". I mean, you're completely entitled in saying it and I don't judge you for it, but I'm personally gonna wait it out. Play the entire game, see what the lvl80 dungeons are like (since I was hardcore DoASC, the endgame is probably going to attract me again, maybe some PvP as well) and then I'll judge. If the endgame sucks balls, I'll switch games or stop gaming all together, but BETA was actually really enjoyable for me.

Performance issues in betas don't bother me. That's what the betas are for. I started to worry about GW2 when I started reading about it and it reminded me of other games I didn't like. Playing the beta showed it to be Guild Wars in name and lore only; otherwise it was an artsier WoW in structure.

Gameplay (mechanics) and graphics are my gripes with GW2 at present. It's way too similar to existing mmorpgs and I'm disappointed that Anet chose that route instead of continue the path of GW1. Graphics are a complete disappointment for a game that took as long as this one has to develop and one set for a late 2012 release; several people in the beta commented likewise. Both of these were common issues cited on their forums during and immediately after the beta.

I'll keep giving betas a try, next time dabbling more in PvP to see if that can draw me back. I really want to like the game, but as it stands my HoM status doesn't mean much to me anymore.

Oh, look. I ignored this thread til now as it had "HoM" in the title. This makes you understand how happy I am that 90% of guru topics are now about that. And that's why now I'm rarely ever logging here anymore, once every few days instead of a few times a day. It seems now as the only purpose of the game is the hom, and I hated the hom from the very first moment.
You're all right saying that now, after all these years there's nothing else to discuss anymore, we can only talk botting, duping, fails and such. But it's not cause the game is now 7 years old. It's for the lack of updates, and I'm not talking about bug fixes or title giveaways. We have an ele overhaul that's been waiting for pt2 for..how much now?Half a year? Plus all the ones that were supposed to come...if we had those we would be discussing builds and strategies instead of hom and rating. The age is nothing if the game is kept alive by support.
Personally I'm not finding myself playing often now. It's still the best game for me, and I'm still convinced I'll play til last day, but lately I rather play something totally new for me most of the time and only hope on gw for some missions only like once a week. When you mostly played alone for all those years and still do, and have nobody to do new stuff with (=the elite areas I never did yet), the hours spent there start to be felt.

I know I won't like something if it's completely out of my canons. I mean, if I hate lattuce I know already I won't like a lattuce salad, without the need to taste it before judging. If I dislike leather furniture, I won't buy myself a leather sofa just to see if I like it. I hope you get what I mean...

Completely, and you're absolutely right. If you know you don't like certain things, you know you most likely aren't going to like things similar to the ones you don't like.

But what if someone added something extra to the lettuce salad making it taste like rainbows? What if this particular leather couch makes it feel as if thirteen Chinese slaves are massaging your ass? It might change your opinion on the entire matter.

But yeah, in general prospect, you might be right, but you can't be sure until you try. And tasting a salad saying "I'm going to hate it anyway" will more likely end up with you saying "see, I hate it" than when you say: "I don't like lettuce, but I could at least try".

I'd never want thirteen Chinese slaves to massage my ass lol.
On a more serious note, the "I could at least try" imho falls if to try you have to pay a hefty sum and download a gazillion giga ^^ Especially counting how many free similar games there's out there and how many I'm playing already, gw included. Let's put it like this: if I was rich, both of money and time, and was really getting bored, then I could give it a try, yeah :P

In terms of graphics, while the technology being used isn't bleeding edge the aesthetic look of the game is really good - and lets not forget the client is DX9 only at the moment, it will receive DX10/DX11 support.

Additionally I prefer to judge graphics on their own absolute merits instead of taking in consideration how long it took to get them, especially since the game has been in development for 5 years but not because of the graphics.

It will still be pretty much superior to any other MMORPG out there graphic wise, with the exception of TERA, which has a worse art style IMO. Towns are just awesome.

And the physics engine is quite good.

Game play wise I had a blast - being able to play it almost as TPS, the fluidity of the combat, using skills and move, the AI wasn't a walkover (especially as you go up in levels and fight AI with more skills that acutally dodge). Combat felt like action combat and very satisfying.

And dynamic events are clearly not something similar to other MMORPGs out there.

Finally the world felt alive and it clearly plays more as a multiplayer game than GW without having the hassle associated with forming a party.

PvP is also very good.

On the downside, I dislike the mobs respawns out of nowhere (I much prefer when they come out of that corner or a bush) and I much preferred the mobs patrol style of GW over the mobs just standing around.

I miss the mission map and I would prefer if the compass was able to show the enemies, plus some people rally enjoyed the ability to follow.

We will have to give it some time - some people say GW is awful and they actually didn't even left the pre-searing, so not everything is for everyone, although I got the impression some GW veterans are just dismissing it by just looking it at the surface and seeing some similarities to WoW and the fact it will be a bigger game population wise (curiously WoW players focus on what is different, from loading screens, to no raids, to no treadmill gear, to no holy trinity) without digging deeper.

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Please do tell what games offer everything or even most of the things GW2 offer for free - I'm very interested in playing those games.

And by the way the GW box price was quite similar to the GW2 box price.

I'd say most of the free games out there as to me gw2 offers nothing. Ofc I don't know about the similar ones as I'm not interested in those.

I bought gw complete collection for 20€ , and only cause I was sure already it had everything I wanted and I would have played it for a long long time. I wasn't wrong. I spent more after with char slots and mercenaries, but it was an investment in the game I spent all my game time on. I don't usually spend money for games at all.

So you aren't interested in the free games, but you know GW2 is similar to those, but then you can't name one that is actually similar to GW2 since you aren't interested in them, even though you claim there are loads of similar free games and the amount of free games you are already playing..

So you were just taking pot shots at GW2 trying to compare it to low quality f2p (and possibly p2w as well).

Shame since I really wanted to get a game like GW2 until GW2 is out.

You totally missed my point. I meant gw2 has nothing different/more than every other wow close out there, imho.
This all is really OT too, so I'll cut it here.

I'm guessing they gave up on the Elementalist update part 2?

Than I disagree with you since GW2 is quite different from WoW and most people that played GW2 can appreciate the difference.

From the way the quests are laid out, to the combat system (GW combat system is closer to wow than GW2 is to wow), to all the time consuming activities it is lacking (that are used to slow down players and get more subs), to the way people react to others in the open world.

Of course GW2 isn't GW 2.0 either.

And WoW isn't free and the free to play WoW clones aren't up to WoW quality.

Not that WoW is a bad game but it isn't for me specially requiring a monthly fee.

If it would come out to be true, it would have been better if they did nothing at all, as the way it is now, it's like a frankenstein monster, sort of :/

I have almost 12k hours over multiple accounts (main account has more than 10k by itself)...so yeah I play and I play a lot and after gw2 comes out---I will STILL be playing as there is NOTHING in gw2 that I still consider a game I wish to play.

Art =/= graphics. If so, WET would've been great.

While I would generally prefer to judge graphics on their own merits, especially in comparison with resource usage, when I had GW2 up on one monitor and GW1 up on the neighboring monitor, I was not impressed at all. I expected TERA-like graphics. I expected better shadow/water/etc. rendering. I expected a 2012 produced game to look like one. But time will tell what the final product will look like. TERA wasn't quite as pretty in beta either.

Much of the rest is a personal matter; my point in the end remains the same. GW2 started to fade in my mind, and the beta nearly killed my interest in it. With that, I've cared a lot less about HoM (though I still enjoy helping out allies/guildies with their HoM).

For me, the lack of click to walk, weird (default) targeting, manual dodge and lack of automatically moving to the target are all huge issues.

Yes, as a melee player, you have to manually move to keep on the target or you're swinging at air, unless I'm missing something...

Also, the dynamic event system is shockingly repetitious... remember how in GW you just sort of took the primary quests and an occasional secondary quest and you landed up more or less the right level as you moved through the game? Yeah, not anymore, not by a long shot. Now you've got to grind "dynamic" (and was there ever a more ironic name?) events to level up in order to be able to progress the story.

After a while, I just couldn't really be bothered doing the same shit again... and again. That's a bad sign in a totally new game.

Oh, and being solo is shit.... Totally shit. You're way outgunned, which means you have to be in an area where there are other people.... and that was stupidly hard to find. So hard, in fact, that I quit trying and logged off. Grouping in early GW1 was mental before heroes, but at least it was possible, since we had outpost for attached missions etc... In GW2, you wander around a vast map hoping to bump into someone so you can hang together... and when I say "wander around...bump into someone", I mean you're on your knees praying because it's the only way it even begins to be remotely playable.

I had hopes for GW2, but the core issues I have with it aren't actually beta problems, they're just flat out problems with the choices that have been made and aren't going to change.

My main character has her GWAMM and her 50/50, so I have no further need to complete anything else really, as far as that goes, however ...

My second account 'main' still has his GWAMM to complete and still has alot of ground to cover (vanquishing, Guardian titles, carto being the main ones). Only problem is finding the motivation to do it (gets very boring on your own, but then have too many RL interruptions that it would be unfair to group up with others).

I may or may not complete the HoM for him, rather I use it as a measure or guide to see where I'm at.

I plan on buying all 20 armours (not for the one character, but across the account) so that means levelling and playing through the game with various other alt's (at least far as they need to go for the armour).

For one of my survivor characters I'd like to see how far she can go without dying (setting a goal of 5 mill xp to start with) and probably go for a 3rd GWAMM - again, providing I can find the motivation and the time ....

So after 7 years I'm still playing through the content of the game, but the motivation to do so is starting to lag. I do intend playing GW2 (had fun with beta, while the game is far from perfect there's enough there for me to want to play it) so will be interesting to see how much time I spend in the new game, or if I lose interest and come back full time to GW1.

Cheers.

Really bad water and reflections/light (and again DX10/DX11 isn't on the client yet, I'm not sure if the max quality textures are all there though).
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This is mater of personal taste. Many would use the click to walk, tab targeting (that GW2 also has and you can also bind C to target closest just like in GW) and automatic movement into target to bash GW.

I've never had to do a dynamic event more than once to be at the right levels. Also it is a dynamic event because most events have different stages and the next stage will depend of the result of the previous. Heart Quests (you know the gold hearts) aren't dynamic events - they are just draw points for those that dislike exploring.

And if you actually can't find dynamic events you can just go explore the other races starting areas - additionally XP gains is something that is constantly being tweaked.

Yeah mobs are hard, taking on 2 or more on your own will get you killed really fast if you don't know what you are doing.

Still, for many events you have NPCs around to help out.

And of course I don't know which beta you played because during the GW2 beta it was basically impossible to walk 5 meters without bumping in to someone.

My screen generally looked like this:



That is fair, but that doesn't mean the choices are bad, it just means they aren't for your style (I don't like racing games or flight sims).

Luckily for me I enjoy both GW and GW2 and I much prefer the action combat of GW2 and when I log in GW these days I wish I could fire my skills where I'm facing without targeting first...

the last ss of the flame legion shamann was a nice event that I also was in and enjoyed
it imensley on my engineer .

Just have fun thats what the game is all about

But...wasn't there a non disclosure agreement or something?

That was for the invite only betas.

The pre-purchase BWE and last monday stress test is NDA free.

Which is also interesting - I hope these people that are surprised about GW2 features didn't pre-purchase the game without researching it.

Oh ok I thought it was for everyone playing beta ^^

DX10/11 is not in the beta? That may solve the many issues people have with the game.

That and I hope they make the client use more than 1 thread and actually care about the GPU its using.

Additionally there are very weird situation where lower spec PCs actually run the game better.

^Because the game isn't optimized yet obviously it's BETA... everything will be fixed at release. Who cares about water reflections lol... again, beta.

Hehe.

I wish I had your optimism, ruk1a

I hope you noticed the sarcasm in my post... or actually the pictures illustrating really enjoyable water, lightning and reflections.

I have 50/50 hom and I still play the game, mainly RA.

I tried making some progress towards Gwamm to and dont have much left to do, but I got bored of farming for consumables so all I play now is RA.

i guess i dont feel as bad ive 8400 hour atm on my main. and they thought 4000 hours was impressive ive actually got 4000 on my backup as well

I log on every now and then to think back on what was. I'm 31/50 in my HoM and don't care to do more, though I have a king's ransom in booze, sweets, and party supplies. Soon I'll be hosting a giveaway of these things plus a metric ton of crafting materials. An inventory is needed and welll...I'd need to log on to do it.

Each to their own.

I personally can't be bothered with it yet in saying without HoM this game would be even more of a ghost town than it's current state.As a result I help many of my guildies and friends fill theirs and also PuG every now and then merely because I enjoy the particular mission, goal, etc.

As such I think your kind of shooting yourself in the foot if you outright state it sucks as directly or indirectly it's keeping the game ticking....just.