Give ArenaNet a Break...

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Plutoman
Krytan Explorer
#21
ArenaNet's a great company, great philosophy, with great products. They've given great support to the best of their abilities (they worked with me extensively in locating some server issues pinned down to an exterior source en route from some Ericsson servers, found via multiple trace routes), and they're putting out another great game soon that I'll also love and enjoy (and have already bought).

People complaining treat the game like a $60 game they just bought, that turned out broken. It's not. It's had years of free updates, and a solid gameplay experience the whole time. I got my money's worth and much, much more. I'd buy GW2 on principle, even if I didn't enjoy it (which I do). $150 is well worth 1500+ hours of play.
Leohan
Leohan
Frost Gate Guardian
#22
Yeah stop having opinions everyone, so sit down and shut up. Anet employees such as the community managers never visit this site to see what issues the player base is having, ever.
Nope... never.
Guild Wars 2 isn't the result of years in the making because of the limitations Guild Wars 1 platform presented, ideas and imaginations, a effort on all sides of the table, did not cause for radical shift. Nope, so stop whining, go cry to Blizzard because Anet/Nscoft no longer have to do their jobs. I mean it's been 7 years...7 years is a really long time who's ever heard of a company having a product go on and make profit after that?
It's not like they sell product any more, nope no games or merchandise in the stores, it's all shut down now.
Guild Wars 2 will be out end of the year so support for the game that makes them money should be left alone. How else are they going to make a profit off of those fools who just bought the game last week, suckers.

Yup, well said, well said, I agree. People with opinions should just stop typing in a forum. It's not what forums are for. What are they for? I don't know , but certainly not for having issues with something, and stating that voice in a public space.

In short, if you have nothing nice to say about Guild Wars, don't say anything at all. because in the developing a game no one likes new ideas.
*Sarcasm Over*

Now that bit is done, I will say that I respect your opinion and you are probably tired of seeing the same thread over and over again. What I don't agree with is telling the other side of the table to shut up.
I agree it is annoying, but shouldn't that say something about, the real problems the game as at the moment. It's not just one lone gun man trying to troll. There is a crowd of voice speaking up.
I personally don't expect new free content from the game, but the game still needs to have full support, in fixing issues.
Anet and Ncsoft could be working on the problems right now, they might not. All the players know is they are tired of waiting to see Dhumm pop up in town.
With bots over populating the players in PvP matches, duping, ect... the list goes on. Taking the GW1 team off the case to work on GW2, just got the community to raise an eyebrow or two.
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Darkicon
Academy Page
#23
In my opinion, I think ANet is doing a fine job. After 7 years, I still love this game and I still have fun and still there's new and interesting things I haven't done yet. Those things may be old things I haven't gotten around to ever doing (Such as DoA) but nevertheless, they're new to me.

Big deal that 7th year birthday presents were recycled, bar 2 minipets. If you feel it's a big deal then I don't think there's an MMO past, present or future that can live up to your standards. Also, you don't know what is or isn't duped or how old they are unless you're duping items yourself or know people that dupe, who you should be reporting. Duped items could be quite old from a now-fixed vulnerability. Yeah, bots are an issue but the problem is that the programmers found a way around GW's bot detection methods and unless people do their part in reporting or ANet gets their hands on the sourcecode for the bot, there's nothing that can happen.
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enter_the_zone
Jungle Guide
#24
While the OP does have a point, duping, 7th year presents (and more precisely, the initial lack of clarity over whether these can yield Asian minis) and botting are legitimate issues.

The worst part of this is not that they're not doing anything about it, it's that, for the most part, they've utterly failed to even acknowledge that the problem exists, let alone keep the community informed. Shitty communication is shitty, and it would only need 1 person to do this right.
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Andemius
Krytan Explorer
#25
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Originally Posted by Darkicon View Post
Also, you don't know what is or isn't duped or how old they are unless you're duping items yourself or know people that dupe, who you should be reporting.
Absolute bull crap. The newest (ie not 5 years old dupe glitch) customizes the item in question, so if you're buying a customised minipet or material, it's not legit.

I don't think it's unreasonable for people to be less than happy about the recent handling of problems. What have we had recently? An AB update and a sweets update. Niether is fixing the most prominent issues.
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Gabs88
Desert Nomad
#26
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Originally Posted by Andemius View Post
Absolute bull crap. The newest (ie not 5 years old dupe glitch) customizes the item in question, so if you're buying a customised minipet or material, it's not legit.

I don't think it's unreasonable for people to be less than happy about the recent handling of problems. What have we had recently? An AB update and a sweets update. Niether is fixing the most prominent issues.
Judging from a chatlog I saw a week back or so they've already evolved that part. So an item not being customized is no guarantee it is not duped in the first place.
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headlesshobbs
Krytan Explorer
#27
I'm going to base their reputation with the way they're treating this game and it's current community. What's to say 3-5 years down the line they won't pull the same once they start on some other big name project?

GW1 is still alive, wake up anet.
WarcryOfTruth
WarcryOfTruth
Site Contributor
#28
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Originally Posted by enter_the_zone View Post
(and more precisely, the initial lack of clarity over whether these can yield Asian minis)
Part of the mystery is finding one for yourself. It isn't their responsibility to hold your hand and tell you if it has one or not. Who cares one way or another if they do anyway. But, they have no obligation to tell us. Shit, this reminds me of "The Waiting Game", when people bitched and moaned when ANet never said a set time anywhere, until... oh wait, people bitched and moaned asking how long.
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misamoriko
Academy Page
#29
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Originally Posted by Leohan View Post
Yeah stop having opinions everyone, so sit down and shut up. Anet employees such as the community managers never visit this site to see what issues the player base is having, ever.
Nope... never.
Guild Wars 2 isn't the result of years in the making because of the limitations Guild Wars 1 platform presented, ideas and imaginations, a effort on all sides of the table, did not cause for radical shift. Nope, so stop whining, go cry to Blizzard because Anet/Nscoft no longer have to do their jobs. I mean it's been 7 years...7 years is a really long time who's ever heard of a company having a product go on and make profit after that?
It's not like they sell product any more, nope no games or merchandise in the stores, it's all shut down now.
Guild Wars 2 will be out end of the year so support for the game that makes them money should be left alone. How else are they going to make a profit off of those fools who just bought the game last week, suckers.

Yup, well said, well said, I agree. People with opinions should just stop typing in a forum. It's not what forums are for. What are they for? I don't know , but certainly not for having issues with something, and stating that voice in a public space.

In short, if you have nothing nice to say about Guild Wars, don't say anything at all. because in the developing a game no one likes new ideas.
*Sarcasm Over*
Never have I said anywhere that people shouldn't post their opinions. Opinions are good. Opinions are what make things what they are.

But when you're on a thread that's got tons of people whining about another mini Jora they got in their 7th year birthday present and you're the only person who has a different point of view, you get shot down. By a lot of people.

And I've said it in another post and I'll say it again, I know that botting and duping are real problems in this game. I was using those particular threads as examples of where I'd seen anti-ANet comments.
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enter_the_zone
Jungle Guide
#30
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Originally Posted by WarcryOfTruth View Post
Part of the mystery is finding one for yourself. It isn't their responsibility to hold your hand and tell you if it has one or not. Who cares one way or another if they do anyway. But, they have no obligation to tell us. Shit, this reminds me of "The Waiting Game", when people bitched and moaned when ANet never said a set time anywhere, until... oh wait, people bitched and moaned asking how long.
When the community is worried by an active duping issue, it's not the time to be playing stupid guessing games with extremely rare items.... unless you are a retard.
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dasmitchies
Lion's Arch Merchant
#31
In a nutshell, Arena Net has lived up to fewer promises than they have broken. So when players see the same old behaviors they howl. The angry responses are not happening in a vacuum; as everyone says this game is 7 years old. Botting is a massive problem that has been occurring for years. Lack of updates has been happening for at least 1 year (several months before putting gw on autopilot). In any other business, if a promise is broken, the customer is always expected to be upset. Why is it gamer's are not afforded the same courtesy? Because gaming companies are ran by the socially inept. As an aside, the "no monthly fee" holds no water for me. When Anet started selling in game items (despite saying they never would) I didn't complain and bought some. I felt that the game was worth it and considered an extra $10.00 here and there was ok. I haven't purchased anything in a year. Coincidence?
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Kunder
Desert Nomad
#32
As an enraged farmer of imaginary monies I demand that Anet bring forth the programmer that was responsible for the dupe bug so that I may personally beat the crap out of him in real life.

Seriously though, I couldn't give a damn about dupes or bots as long as it's not screwing up PvP. On the other hand, customers who ask companies to provide less service deserve to be shot on sight.
Nerel
Nerel
Jungle Guide
#33
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Originally Posted by Kunder View Post
As an enraged farmer of imaginary monies I demand that Anet bring forth the programmer that was responsible for the dupe bug so that I may personally beat the crap out of him in real life.
That's unfair and extremely unreasonable, expecting Anet to toss forth some nameless programer for the frothing masses of angry gamers to beat...

A more reasonable approach would be to peddle off such an opportunity in the ingame cash shop... $10 and you can hit him once, with a multi strike bonus pack available for the truly dedicated fans, 7 hits for $49.99!

Anet would make a killing... one way or the other.
Highlander Of Alba
Highlander Of Alba
Wilds Pathfinder
#34
Have spent 7 years playing gw1 with a few alts and slots ect I think they have did a great job for the time it has been running.

Yes you have the guys who want more throw a bone and they want it covered in meat. Geeze guys what does it all do when an exploit comes up or some sort of glitch.

I for one dont care re whatever a guys wealth means all it means he does farming to get more . Does it do him any good ? as far as Im concered no as why hoard armbraces ect so you can throw some epeen to guys.

I have had my monies a 100 times over although I used cash shop for cosmetic /slots ect as long as someone is having Fun and enjoying the game thats what many forget and just like Oliver they want more nomatter what they do.

Even now the update gives someone max pve skills at 5 so what? its not affecting your gameplay you are still doing what you have always done.
so well done Arenanet for 7 years of enjoyment and I still play the game
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Andemius
Krytan Explorer
#35
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Originally Posted by Highlander Of Alba View Post
Have spent 7 years playing gw1 with a few alts and slots ect I think they have did a great job for the time it has been running.

Yes you have the guys who want more throw a bone and they want it covered in meat. Geeze guys what does it all do when an exploit comes up or some sort of glitch.

I for one dont care re whatever a guys wealth means all it means he does farming to get more . Does it do him any good ? as far as Im concered no as why hoard armbraces ect so you can throw some epeen to guys.

I have had my monies a 100 times over although I used cash shop for cosmetic /slots ect as long as someone is having Fun and enjoying the game thats what many forget and just like Oliver they want more nomatter what they do.

Even now the update gives someone max pve skills at 5 so what? its not affecting your gameplay you are still doing what you have always done.
so well done Arenanet for 7 years of enjoyment and I still play the game
Personally I've not seen many people complaining about the downscaling of rank skills ect. I think it's a bit of a kick in the teeth to everyone who maxed or worked on their rank to get it to a certian point, but Anet are making the game easier so more people can max their rewards.

The point is that there's been nothing done about the duping or botting, and people seem to think that's okay. These are game-breaking exploits. It's not like someone coming up with a kick ass teambuild, cos synergy between skills has always been there, it's the EULA abusing problems people are unhappy about.
Swingline
Swingline
Forge Runner
#36
Until they allocate more resources to Guild Wars I will not give them a break.
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Socrates The Mauler
Academy Page
#37
You all know that saying that movie sequels mostly don't live up to the original movie? I give about 3.5 years till GW2 degenerates into exactly these same complaints, if it manages to launch at all.

GW is GW. The design is broken, no matter what number you put after the title.
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misamoriko
Academy Page
#38
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Originally Posted by Socrates The Mauler View Post
You all know that saying that movie sequels mostly don't live up to the original movie? I give about 3.5 years till GW2 degenerates into exactly these same complaints, if it manages to launch at all.

GW is GW. The design is broken, no matter what number you put after the title.
I wouldn't say that's a fair assessment. Games aren't movies. Movies try to milk as much out of the originally storyline and make more money off of it. While games do that as well, they also have the opportunity to change and fix mistakes that were wrong with the original.

You can't have the exact same Jurassic Park movie and decide to kill the kids instead of the lawyer.
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Socrates The Mauler
Academy Page
#39
What is Guild Wars 2 then, if not an attempt to sucker current and past players into paying yet again for the stuck Siege Turtles, the Mulefactory merchants, the skills you payed to unlock but didn't acquire?

They ought to fix their current game before they sell a new one with all the sameness as the original.
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Tryndamere
Ascalonian Squire
#40
My only beef is Anet and the live team making too many skills useless, and severely limiting and reducing builds, choices, and synergies. I also see a lot of untapped potential in spicing up skills. I see this potential in every class, too. There's so much that could've been done to salvage every player's interest, but sadly nothing has been done. Skills, builds, and the meta itself, are frozen stiff. If Anet were to look up some of the skill feedbacks in the gw wiki, and actually implemented some of those suggestions, I'm sure that PvP activity would boost up again. They just need to revamp some of the overnerfs and underbuffs, and I guarantee you that a lot of people would come back to play PvP again. Same goes for PvE. Anet should have paid closer attention to FoW, UW, Urgoz, Dungeons, etc., and should have created synergetic builds to get players having fun again. So much potential they had... and all they did was let it all go to waste.