Is this legal?

Alex2

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2011

We Make F O W look [Easy]

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Hey guys, i am wondering wether this is legal or not, i since gw2 is coming close, i am wanting to get gwamm or atleast 50/50, and all i need is my titles..
so the question is: would it be legal to either pay some1 to go on my acc and do everything, or just go afk, and make the other guy do the work?
if i pay for it, ofc
ty

thedukesd

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2009

Real money trades are against tos ( http://guildwars.com/support/rmt/rmt-en.php ).

By giving someone else your account information you expose your account. If you will end up hacked it's your own fault.

Staying afk (except pvp) while another person in the party is doing all the job for you and paying him with ingame plat/items is not against tos.

Ghengis Kwell

Ghengis Kwell

Baby Maker

Join Date: Jun 2007

UK

Sent Fromhell

D/W

If you want someone to help along in game for gold/items whilst you AFK then have a look in this section clicky but it's a definite no no on anything exchanging hands for RL money

drkn

drkn

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2009

Wroc??aw, Poland

Midnight Mayhem

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No real money may be involved.

If you share your account with anyone, you're pretty much stripping yourself of any account-support related to theft, hacking etc, as you have knowingly let somebody else onto your account. So, if your 'service-man' takes your stuff, including the whole account, you're out of luck.
It's technically against the rules, too ('user will not share their account with anyone' stuff in the EULA), but it cannot be checked really, so consider it a gray area.

Paying someone to do stuff for you while you AFK is a widely known and used technique, known as 'services'. Just don't pay with $

Quaker

Quaker

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Aug 2005

Canada

Brothers Disgruntled

Actually, I think you'd have to read the EULA to be sure, but it seems to me that selling in-game items for real world cash is not allowed, but I'm not sure if they mention paying someone else to play for you.

My question is - why bother? It seems like an expensive way to get a relatively meaningless title - it's especially meaningless if you pay someone else to do it. Are you thinking that people are going to say "Wow, that guy had GWAAM in GW1"? It's going to be more like "Ho hum, another guy with GWAAM, but what can you do in GW2?"

drkn

drkn

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2009

Wroc??aw, Poland

Midnight Mayhem

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Well, actually, the OP never mentioned real money - only paying for doing stuff via either account-sharing or while being AFK. That said, better warn

Olle

Olle

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2008

Ign: Miniature Julia

Teh Academy[PhD]

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No, you cannot let anyone else play on your account.

lisa night dk

lisa night dk

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

Denmark

Kiss

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Well he can but it is against the EULA

Olle

Olle

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2008

Ign: Miniature Julia

Teh Academy[PhD]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by lisa night dk View Post
Well he can but it is against the EULA
I can also kill someone, but that is against the law.

cmon, really?

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

Paying in-game gold to be run through stuff while AFK? O-K
Paying RW cash to get run through stuff? No Way
Allowing someone else access to your account? No. Just no.

spacedkadet

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2009

Lord

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Olle View Post
I can also kill someone, but that is against the law.

cmon, really?
braking some poxy eula will make you a bad person and get you sent to jail, really? you class breaking an old games eula the same as murder? rofl! oh noes the video games police are coming run for the hills!!!

Olle

Olle

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2008

Ign: Miniature Julia

Teh Academy[PhD]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by spacedkadet View Post
braking some poxy eula will make you a bad person and get you sent to jail, really? you class breaking an old games eula the same as murder? rofl! oh noes the video games police are coming run for the hills!!!
Though doing this will get your account banned.

true, it wount happen in 1/5000 times, but still, its against the eula.

Dar Drakor

Dar Drakor

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2008

Ancient Dragon Disciples [ADD]

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It's not worth it (risking ban or getting your account info compromised). Sure if you know someone personally (RL friend for example) that you are willing to let do this then sure, but a stranger? That's kinda like giving a stranger your car and drivers license if he's willing to go run your chores for you.

drkn

drkn

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2009

Wroc??aw, Poland

Midnight Mayhem

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Quote:
Though doing this will get your account banned.
Not really. Suspected, but not proven, break of EULA in a way like this won't lead to terminating one's account, as, well, it cannot be proven. I could have travelled to Japan and back, or use a proxy to connect for a while, thus making my IP different. There's no way of telling whether an account was shared or not in this game, unless there's a hard proof like long-going chat records mentioning sharing, or the primary owner's own confession.
That said, suspecting a violation of EULA in that manner might - and, most likely, will - lead to revoking all support for the shared account, unless the owner can prove it wasn't shared (thus haven't broken EULA). While this way it might be possible, doing so would be a pain in the ass, not really worth the hassle unless one's really been tragically hacked.

Alvarez

Alvarez

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Just start working on it yourself. Guild Wars' servers will still be open once the sequel gets released so what's the rush? Titles generally are not hard, just tedious.
Getting over 30 in your HoM rewards only yields titles so unless you really, really want those titles, I don't see a point in paying someone in doing so. Also someone else got you those titles - maybe you don't care for the sense of accomplishment but I would.

Olle

Olle

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2008

Ign: Miniature Julia

Teh Academy[PhD]

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Originally Posted by drkn View Post
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As i stated before, this isnt "IF you get banned", or "IF you get hacked"
It is against the EULA.

spun ducky

spun ducky

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

WTB: q8 bows

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It is done all the time anet rarely bans but it is technically against the rules.

rusticgamer

rusticgamer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2012

With Courage and Muriel

Guild Nirvana [GN]

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1st off, it's NOT legal. You risk a ban. As others mentioned if you pay with plat, you can consider it a gray area but if you pay with real money it's not in the gray area anymore.

2nd Getting GWAMM and 50/50 it's both a lot of work and two different things.

GWAMM refers to a title. If you wish to achieve GWAMM you can do it yourself in maybe two months if you play a decent amount of time (2-3 hours per day) AND have some helpful items (such as : summoning stones, consets, buffing sweets, etc.). There are some tips for the choices you can make on wiki http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Kind_of_a_Big_Deal although you will have to pay a bit for the consumable titles....[personnaly I farm GotH(Gifts of the Huntsman) in pre-Searing, Gifs of the Traveler for consumables points, although it might take some time]

50/50 okay...I honestly don't know why you would want such a thing...did you at least complete 30/50...30/50 is doable in a few months as a new player, providing that you play enough and you get accustomed fast with the game itself. 50/50 is quite an ambitious project as you need a ridiculous amount of money to get it, not to mention that you won't get anything amazing for it....just some titles that don't even give boosts. They are just for fashion, nothing more.

Zebideedee

Zebideedee

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2007

55?? 57' 0" N / 3?? 12' 0" W

N/Me

Paying someone to use your account is A. Foolish and B. Foolish is enough.

Unless you know the person irl DON'T

Just get in a good guild for 50/50 help. Tbh the benefits of having 50/50 will be outweighed by the amount of people that have it. Imho

Besides, Anet seem to be making GWAMM so easy to get nowadays, you practically get it by creating an account

BlackAdder77

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2012

Started playing 4 months and some 20 days ago. Old account, had only factions on it, and a total of 5 pets from B-day prezzies and about 20 plat total.Fresh start with an Ele. Got 38/50 now, enough cash to get it to 40+ if i wildly start spending. In less then a months time ill get to 50/50, and only cuz i have stuff to do for the HONOR monument. Its doable, and quite easy IF U PREPARE. And if u count i did the LDoA ( took me 8-9 days ) and had a three week pause. Fairly easy, and relatively quick.

Best advice I can give is Wiki the hell out of anything before u actually do it.
Plan ahead, will save u countless hours and a lof of money. The community is also making it easy by providing excellent services in just about any area of the game.

Hell u can just make a fortune by staying in Kamadan by buying low, selling high. (hate selling and I myself have sold stuff that are way more expensive then i sold em for)

Darkicon

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Take It Eazy

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I've had my account for I think 7 years (Whenever GW was released). I quit shortly before HoM was released. I just started playing again about a month ago and I'm already basically 30/50 (Really 28/50 but I'm just too lazy to buy one minipet and 17 zkeys which would get me to 30/50).

It's really not hard to get just 30/50. Doesn't take much time and it definitely shouldn't cost you much, if anything. In reality, you don't need to spend ANY gold to hit 30/50, not even farming (Although it would take more time). 50/50 is honestly only for the players that have nothing better to do than to farm like crazy and/or illegally buy gold/ectos.

For example. Today alone I spent 120e to buy 360 Gladiator Strongboxes (No more money from my El Kuuna ) and I only got about 500 drunkard, sweets and party animal points out of that and about 30 zkeys, including gold coins and points from chest (btw, if you're trying to max those titles, do not buy strongboxes, just buy the spammable points or zkeys).

50/50 is really a commitment. It takes a lot of time and a lot of money. I seriously suggest you do not pay someone to get you to 50/50, I can guarantee you'll never see that account again without going through support and having it rolled back. The truth is, yes it is against the ToS but you more than likely won't get caught unless the person doing it happens to be using bots in order to get some of the bot-able titles. However, ArenaNet DOES track trades done by known bot-farming accounts, so if you have a gold seller/powerleveler/whatever do it and they transfer items to your character through a storage character on a flagged account, you will most likely be caught and banned or suspended and rolledback.

You can slowly get GWAMM though. Zaishen quests help with this a lot. If you go for Vanquisher titles, doing 1 vanquish per day, using the Zaishen quest, you'll get that title in 4 1/2 months. Same thing with Guardian. For Skill Hunter, cap skills as you vanquish or work on Guardian. Max Cartography as you vanquish. Plus allegiance titles which will be most likely maxed from VQ'ing and doing missions, such as Sunspear, Lightbringer, Deldrimor, Ebon Vanguard, Asura and Norn. Right there in 4 1/2 months, you got 24 titles maxed. Just 6 short of GWAMM... Simply by doing 2 things every day. If you're lucky (No pun intended), you can max Lucky, Wisdom, Treasure Hunter or Unlucky by bringing along lockpicks and opening chests while you do all that, getting you up to an additional 4 titles and 2-5 titles short of GWAMM. That equates to devoting a mere 1 hour or less every day to GWAMM.