Team Build: Triple Rit Melee Support

Your bars seem a bit screwy. I would get rid of ghostmirror light for something like weapon of warding. Holy wrath seems meh, but if you tanking the majority of the damage it might be alright. Your mesmers have pretty much no energy management. You also need some resses unless you want to be wasting res scrolls. 1. Ghostmirror is for healing/self healing, self healing is needed for off set the BIP.

2. Got splinter weapon if get weapon of warding it will over write it. Also no need for +hp since Grenth' Aura turn my scythe to health anyway.

3. For res got two flesh of my flesh and "we shall return". It enough res especially the team don't dead easily.

4. No need for energy management as you see there a battery in the team. I use BIP to power 4x mes with no energy management before so now only 2 mes it more then enough to power them.

The SF bar makes me want to cry. Just because you run bip doesn't mean you run gimped bars. Use a RoJ monk, you can at least run a gimmick with wandering eye and signet of clumsiness on it. And use a PR dervish instead of a gimped aob bar. Thank for the sugguest, original it was running ROJ not SF but because lack of snares in the team didn't work out that will. PR personal i dont like to run in PvE because it's slow in building up adrenaline (PvP yes)to spam SY!. And SF can work along with AoB's as it spam fire as in each echan. But your right tho SF is kind of out there maybe do mes but that back to 3+ mes which i already got bored of.

And please explain why you need ROJ to gimmick with wandering eye and signet of clumsiness??

ps. my experience just 1 copy of ROJ never work well it a 50/50 miss or more. What i mean is heros don't sync skill right so either it don't cast snore or kd before ROJ or dont cast after. So most of the time at almost it burn for 2 sec or less before they all scatter. Not saying ROJ suck i ran ROJ before (3x) and when it work there isn't a better aoe damage can compare to 3x 5 sec of holy damage. It work because hero never stack skill on a foe so if you got more then 2x ROJ the effect area is large even when snore or KD don't work right foe still get burn for most of the 5 sec.

And please explain why you need ROJ to gimmick with wandering eye and signet of clumsiness?? Only reason I could give is the KD snare from sig of clums but tbh swap the SF ele's elite with double dragon for the ring of fire around you that would provide some more utility..

Only reason I could give is the KD snare from sig of clums but tbh swap the SF ele's elite with double dragon for the ring of fire around you that would provide some more utility.. ah something new.. Double Dragon interesting ok I'll give it a try (rarely use ele). Been thinking a aoe KD how's hero handle Psychic Instability?

ah something new.. Double Dragon interesting ok I'll give it a try (rarely use ele). Been thinking a aoe KD how's hero handle Psychic Instability? Psychic Instability works great on heroes I found that more then 1 Psychic Instability Mes is better and Double Dragon is fun with a Melee profession and I found it does not cause scatter

I am not sure why you think that would "work a whole lot better", since that build looks really bad in today's context. First of all, what do you want to replace the extra slot with? It is not worth bringing dual orders for supporting just 1 physical. Second, I rather bring real mesmer heroes than to use a rit with tease. There are other reasons why I think that build sucks compared to today's standards.

I can understand that during the old days the build didn't cater for 7 heroes but that build is just too outdated. The extra hero can be a physical. The idea is physical support so having an orders makes sense. I don't see why you would need mesmers for physical support. The rt with tease is a healer and it's just used for e-management. It's not meant to shut down.

The multiple copies of splinter weapon and ancestors rage will help you kill everything. For defense, you have minions and dark fury from the orders should help you keep up a permanent save yourself.

The build the op posted would work, but I just don't see it as being physical support.

Does your own derv bar really work? Like a charm just did duncan HM in 25 min (no one die) did marco some flagging tho. I do change once and awhile depend on my mood lol. I think Derv bar is the easiest to setup (at least for me since i play mostly as derv). I do keep for most of the time the last 3 skills (SY!, EVAS, DM) for all general PvE with heros no matter what the first 5 skills are.

Not saying is super great since duncan isn't really that hard anyway to start with. I have similar time with all my other team builds, just ran it because it was yesterday ZB. I did replace the SF with Necro with Feast of Corruption. And swapped the smiling down to ST-Rit (also because of weaken armor in nerco I swapped out shrinking armor for shatter delusions in Dom mes). Also played around with Ele Master of Magic with water/fire for snaring but don't think i like it. Nerco (feast of corruption) seen to work better with my playing style. But then still missing some snare skill.

I would like to have a ele in the team since I never had one in all my pass team build. But I almost never play ele (only emo for sc), so it hard for me to to work out a bar to intergrade into a team build. Suggestion would be nice.

The only snare you need for RoJ is Binding Chains on the ST/SoGM. Timing can be awkward but it works extremely well. As mentioned above never found 1 copy of RoJ work correctly or efficient. Binding chain is almost a 100% marco skill. If you monitor your hero closely they rarely use it. As you mention time is a bit awkward, its so true. Since with only 3 sec by the time RoJ (2 sec cast time) get casted you have maybe 1 to 1.5 sec left of snare. So to get it right you need to marco cast RoJ then marco binding chain.

Even if you time it perfectly that just 3 sec just to much trouble to make 1 skill work "some" what right. Now if there 2+ copy of RoJ then get your money worth. Also with 1 copy of RoJ it doesn't do too much damage and once is cast i will lost hold of all aggro. My tactic has always been if cast AoE/Dot that create scatting . That skill or chain of skills need to either kill or come close to killing the group. If not then is not worth scattering them off. Once it scatter off thing get messes because I don't like to bring MM.

That bar is hard to workout since i want to keep those 3 para skills, just going to leave it as a rolling bar of below (snare, general, KD - Yes i say try not to do 2+ mes but haven't find a KD better then mes =p). For snore and ele I did tested out the suggestion mention above. Shatterstone work but no snare, Stone Sheath work pretty nicely, but my armor bonus is pretty high already and I alredy carrying weakening skill. So only thing left is immune to critical hit i guess is useful in some hard hitting area, so keeping that bar for those.

Final came to the conclusion if i need area snare for this team I'll take the Mirror of Ice bar. Mirror of Ice worked pretty good even if sometime it doesn't cast on me the recharge time (12s or 6s if hex, which is almost all the time) is faster enough to be spammable during battle. Thx for the help been a nice run, until next time guys.

You don't really need that third copy of SYG. You can swap it our for something like never surrender, which helps to alleviate some pressure on your bip, or some other utility like ctt/arcane conundrum/etc. It a set of rolling bar.. i still keeping my 6 original hero and the 7th heros will be one of those 3 bar as i see fit for an area. Mostly place would just stick to the general bar (nerco).