Hats and the mask tokens
Nakednfamous
I'll admit I was very happy when I saw we could get the past year Hats for the dragon festival but limited to one grrr like it's a month till guild wars 2 I wish anet could make one last update and make all of them available before we all leave
Ayuhmii Shanbwa
agreed, even though i wont leave (wont buy GW2 at all), so its not my problem really 
but for those who leave, its a nice goodbye gift, or something
i hope they'll do something like that for those who will leave right away, or soon after GW2 release (some people prolly dont have the money yet)
got my support
note: i dont like all masks, so will get grab bags once i got all those nice ones (which arent many)
but for those who leave, its a nice goodbye gift, or something
i hope they'll do something like that for those who will leave right away, or soon after GW2 release (some people prolly dont have the money yet)
got my support
note: i dont like all masks, so will get grab bags once i got all those nice ones (which arent many)
Wielder Of Magic
Funny how its always the same people that show up in threads about getting something for free or dumbing something down.
/ not signed.
If you want a hat, attend to the respective event.
Its not that hard to set a char in afk if you have business elsewhere ( for things like halloween thats enough ).
I find the option of 1 hat each year from passed years a nice gesture already.
But I say no to an update in which you get all hats at once.
Whats next?
An update that gives you all minipets and all hom points?
Pick a hat you like, and look forward to next year when you can get another one.
/ not signed.
If you want a hat, attend to the respective event.
Its not that hard to set a char in afk if you have business elsewhere ( for things like halloween thats enough ).
I find the option of 1 hat each year from passed years a nice gesture already.
But I say no to an update in which you get all hats at once.
Whats next?
An update that gives you all minipets and all hom points?
Pick a hat you like, and look forward to next year when you can get another one.
Andemius
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Originally Posted by Wielder Of Magic
Funny how its always the same people that show up in threads about getting something for free or dumbing something down.
/ not signed. If you want a hat, attend to the respective event. Its not that hard to set a char in afk if you have business elsewhere ( for things like halloween thats enough ). I find the option of 1 hat each year from passed years a nice gesture already. But I say no to an update in which you get all hats at once. Whats next? An update that gives you all minipets and all hom points? Pick a hat you like, and look forward to next year when you can get another one. |
If you want it, should have been there.
MithranArkanere
Why?
The hats given are not for people that will leave. They are for people that will stay.
Hats are to be enjoyed. If you missed them, you don't get to enjoy them, and so it makes sense to bring them back.
But if you leave, you don't get to enjoy them either, so there's no need to give them to you.
It's fine as it is right now. Those who stay and missed hats will get to unlock new ones in years to come.
The hats given are not for people that will leave. They are for people that will stay.
Hats are to be enjoyed. If you missed them, you don't get to enjoy them, and so it makes sense to bring them back.
But if you leave, you don't get to enjoy them either, so there's no need to give them to you.
It's fine as it is right now. Those who stay and missed hats will get to unlock new ones in years to come.
Dewshine Wildclaw
As MithranArkanere said, it is for those that stay in gw and not those that leave.
The point, I think, was that they wont make new hats/masks for gw anymore but there will still be events and there will still be people that want to enjoy it. If they gave all the hats/masks to those that stay, what would be the thing for them to look forward to for the next event?
I really like what they did with the festival hats, now they wont make new ones for gw.
@Wielder of magic and Andemius. They already did make past hats available to everyone, but with the restriction of one pr. event. Also it seems just standing there does not seem possible, but you can get it from the very start of the event. Just have to collect some item to get the token, to trade for the hat. So yeah... past hats are already for everyone to get.
The point, I think, was that they wont make new hats/masks for gw anymore but there will still be events and there will still be people that want to enjoy it. If they gave all the hats/masks to those that stay, what would be the thing for them to look forward to for the next event?
I really like what they did with the festival hats, now they wont make new ones for gw.
@Wielder of magic and Andemius. They already did make past hats available to everyone, but with the restriction of one pr. event. Also it seems just standing there does not seem possible, but you can get it from the very start of the event. Just have to collect some item to get the token, to trade for the hat. So yeah... past hats are already for everyone to get.
Ayuhmii Shanbwa
o_O i dont think i get this at all
"you should have been there" is outdated, as we can get older masks now
"its not for those who leave" it IS for everyone who bought (paid money) for GW
most people are going to GW2, and most likely will stay there instead
again such selfish statement (no offense)
let everyone have their fun
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"Whats next?
An update that gives you all minipets and all hom points?"
i cant help but laugh at this (no offense), cuz hats dont even do anything at all, unlike minis and HoM points (minis give points, and points give GW2 stuff)
anet has been nice to us for years, so i dont think these points people give, will do much
heck, for all i care everyone gets all hats on their accounts, i dont care.... but i still keep playing GW
and of course if they would do this (the OP's thing), people will be happy, which makes em have more faith in anet
yes... even for small stuff like these
"you should have been there" is outdated, as we can get older masks now
"its not for those who leave" it IS for everyone who bought (paid money) for GW
most people are going to GW2, and most likely will stay there instead
again such selfish statement (no offense)
let everyone have their fun
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"Whats next?
An update that gives you all minipets and all hom points?"
i cant help but laugh at this (no offense), cuz hats dont even do anything at all, unlike minis and HoM points (minis give points, and points give GW2 stuff)
anet has been nice to us for years, so i dont think these points people give, will do much
heck, for all i care everyone gets all hats on their accounts, i dont care.... but i still keep playing GW
and of course if they would do this (the OP's thing), people will be happy, which makes em have more faith in anet
yes... even for small stuff like these
tenderpoison
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Originally Posted by Nakednfamous
I'll admit I was very happy when I saw we could get the past year Hats for the dragon festival but limited to one grrr like it's a month till guild wars 2 I wish anet could make one last update and make all of them available before we all leave
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Mintha Syl
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Originally Posted by Ayuhmii Shanbwa
again such selfish statement (no offense)
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If you're quitting, good riddance then. But the game shouldn't be evolving in favour of those who don't care anymore and leave against those who stay. Why would you want a reward for quitting anyway? And as you're not gonna play anymore, what use do you have for hats? You're not even gonna wear them.
Wielder Of Magic
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Originally Posted by Ayuhmii Shanbwa
"Whats next?
An update that gives you all minipets and all hom points?" i cant help but laugh at this (no offense), cuz hats dont even do anything at all, unlike minis and HoM points (minis give points, and points give GW2 stuff) anet has been nice to us for years, so i dont think these points people give, will do much heck, for all i care everyone gets all hats on their accounts, i dont care.... but i still keep playing GW and of course if they would do this (the OP's thing), people will be happy, which makes em have more faith in anet yes... even for small stuff like these |
Really, its funny how in every thread about getting stuff for free or dumbing something down you show up. I actually bet with myself sometimes when I read an OP about if you will post and naturally agree. 9 out of 10 times I am right and I find you there. It shows exactly the type of player that you are.
Not willing to put effort into the game, but wants to get handed everything.
It is never enough for people like you.
Anet just gave you a finger ( 1 hat each year ) and you grab the entire hand ( QQ I WANT ALL HATS NAO QQ ).
And when you have all hats, then what?
The attendance rate for festivals would drop dramatically, since there would be nothing there to reward people with for attending.
With the current system people might actually come back AT LEAST once a year for their hats, and they might actually stick around longer for nostalgia reasons.
This way Anet has made sure that there will be at least a basic activity and attendance level.
I am not being selfish, I am looking at the bigger picture, something you clearly fail to do so.
I dislike the idea of a massive grind, but I also believe you have to work and have some patience if you want something nice.
Allow the hats to be special.
Andemius
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Originally Posted by Ayuhmii Shanbwa
o_O i dont think i get this at all
"you should have been there" is outdated, as we can get older masks now "its not for those who leave" it IS for everyone who bought (paid money) for GW most people are going to GW2, and most likely will stay there instead again such selfish statement (no offense) |
Buying the game is not entitlement to whatever you want. Attending the events is.
It's not selfish, and I do take offense. Someone has already made an apt comparison to asking for all minis because gw2 is out soon. I find your statement about it being for everyone who bought GW laughable. By that logic I ought to have an envoy weapon and max rank emotes because I bought GW.
And before you ask, I don't have all the hats, but I don't care about waiting for the few I still want.
Nakednfamous
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Originally Posted by Wielder Of Magic
Funny how its always the same people that show up in threads about getting something for free or dumbing something down.
/ not signed. If you want a hat, attend to the respective event. Its not that hard to set a char in afk if you have business elsewhere ( for things like halloween thats enough ). I find the option of 1 hat each year from passed years a nice gesture already. But I say no to an update in which you get all hats at once. Whats next? An update that gives you all minipets and all hom points? Pick a hat you like, and look forward to next year when you can get another one. |
Andemius
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Originally Posted by Nakednfamous
Its not free stuff we want most people assume that we just missed the events cause we were to lazy to stay afk? did you ever assume some of us didn't start 7 years ago like the rest of you did. Also for some people its difficult to get a hat in a 3 day period when emergencies happen, i would have loved to get the Christmas hats but i spend every December in third world countries aiding children who don't get gifts so sorry if im selfish for wanting the hats within these last 2 months
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If you're leaving GW, you don't need them.
And I call BS on your 3rd world gubbins.
cosyfiep
does it really matter???? If as has been said, EVERYONE is going to be playing gw2, what the heck does it matter what is going on in gw1? (eg, who is really going to care--unless you are one of those 'gotta have 'em all' types...)
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since you can pick up the token pretty easy now at the beginning of the events--so geez, you have to LOG IN to gw1 for a few more minutes --taking precious time away from gw2 play...in about 1 year no one will care about silly hats/masks at all.
be happy that anet gave you a way to get the older ones.
so
yeah
/notsigned
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since you can pick up the token pretty easy now at the beginning of the events--so geez, you have to LOG IN to gw1 for a few more minutes --taking precious time away from gw2 play...in about 1 year no one will care about silly hats/masks at all.
be happy that anet gave you a way to get the older ones.
so
yeah
/notsigned
Mintha Syl
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Originally Posted by cosyfiep
does it really matter???? If as has been said, EVERYONE is going to be playing gw2, what the heck does it matter what is going on in gw1? (eg, who is really going to care--unless you are one of those 'gotta have 'em all' types...)
and since you can pick up the token pretty easy now at the beginning of the events--so geez, you have to LOG IN to gw1 for a few more minutes --taking precious time away from gw2 play...in about 1 year no one will care about silly hats/masks at all. be happy that anet gave you a way to get the older ones. so yeah /notsigned |
akelarumi
ok I have been one of the people who always said no to this. The reason it is a souvenir for a event. A bit like having a t-shirt stating you where at a "the wall" concert by Pink Floyd. If you weren't there you shouldn't have a t-shirt.
But beside the argument that anet decided to leave this line and give them to all in time, I would agree to do it now. Though I find it doubtfull they have time to do it before I would like to have a farewell party before the end. Making all hats available would be a nice reward for attending there. Beside that for the group thats going over to GW2 it would be a nice goodby to the game. For the people staying behind a nice goodby to those who are leaving. I have a very good friend in this game that can't come to GW right now. It would be nice to attend to one last event together.
But beside the argument that anet decided to leave this line and give them to all in time, I would agree to do it now. Though I find it doubtfull they have time to do it before I would like to have a farewell party before the end. Making all hats available would be a nice reward for attending there. Beside that for the group thats going over to GW2 it would be a nice goodby to the game. For the people staying behind a nice goodby to those who are leaving. I have a very good friend in this game that can't come to GW right now. It would be nice to attend to one last event together.
rick1027
/unsigned i did attend the events but due to storage space i delete those i got but ill be moving to gw2 but will probabaly attned future event in gw cause i loved them so much and wil miss them although there will rpobably be new events in gw2 i will have both open during events and play one for a while then the other if they run on same weekend or time period
Nakednfamous
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Originally Posted by Andemius
Too lazy to afk? Well that means you actively chose not to get that hat. If you didn't start 7 years ago, you don't reap the rewards of doing so. As it is, it's likely that hat tokens will be available at wintersday and halloween too, so you can get them then.
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Daesu
/not signed. GW1 would be even more empty than it is now if they release all the hats at once. People should participate in the festivities to earn the tokens for those hats.
Ayuhmii Shanbwa
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/not signed. GW1 would be even more empty than it is now if they release all the hats at once. People should participate in the festivities to earn the tokens for those hats.
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its still not bad giving em all
and i said i wont even get them all, and have the time since i dont buy GW2 at all
now i still havent seen 1 good reason not to give all in 1 event
i also doubt people will return once they have a whole new game to explore
some will, but most others most likely wont
and who knows, maybe you say now "i'll be back for masks/hats" and once playing GW2 you could say "screw it, i'm busy with a new, more populated and way more balanced game (or something like this)"
but if people dont get em due to them being busy in GW2, and wanna return later, they still gotta wait every year... just to get some masks/hats which are nothing but cosmetic stuff, and not that much if comparing to costumes
so let the next tokens being tradeable or char-based, instead of account
or let everyone get as many masks/hats as they want
also, i doubt anyone keeps playing GW only cuz they gotta wait a year for the next mask to come..... not much profit or something, they most likely go play other games, inccluding GW2
maybe if they give all hats at once, people may like anet some more, and be happy, making em maybe even buy some more stuff, who knows?
Daesu
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Originally Posted by Ayuhmii Shanbwa
its not like people who already got em will return anyways
its still not bad giving em all and i said i wont even get them all, and have the time since i dont buy GW2 at all now i still havent seen 1 good reason not to give all in 1 event i also doubt people will return once they have a whole new game to explore some will, but most others most likely wont and who knows, maybe you say now "i'll be back for masks/hats" and once playing GW2 you could say "screw it, i'm busy with a new, more populated and way more balanced game (or something like this)" but if people dont get em due to them being busy in GW2, and wanna return later, they still gotta wait every year... just to get some masks/hats which are nothing but cosmetic stuff, and not that much if comparing to costumes so let the next tokens being tradeable or char-based, instead of account or let everyone get as many masks/hats as they want also, i doubt anyone keeps playing GW only cuz they gotta wait a year for the next mask to come..... not much profit or something, they most likely go play other games, inccluding GW2 maybe if they give all hats at once, people may like anet some more, and be happy, making em maybe even buy some more stuff, who knows? |
Ayuhmii Shanbwa
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Originally Posted by Daesu
The purpose of the hats has always been to get people to come down and join in the festivities. If you give all the hats at once, people would not bother to take part in each of the festivities in order to earn those hats. This has always been a GW1 feature and has nothing to do with GW2 so don't bring up confusion.
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and as i see it now, new hats didnt come, so why not give more to people at once?
i doubt that people will be there just for the hats... and if thats the only reason, then events dont mean anything to those people
then if people like to celebrate events even without masks/hats, they will do so even if anet gives them all other hats
then the hats wont be effective anymore, as alot of people either dont care, have them already, or are playing GW2
the reason i give GW2 as example, is cuz most people from the GW community, go there
so how can i NOT include GW2 in GW's future?
Andemius
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Originally Posted by Nakednfamous
you cant afk because there is always updates that log me off so i cant afk for weeks sorry, and theyre true believe them or not dont care some people have other places to be instead of sittin waitin for a hat im sure ill miss next wintersday also cause im never in canada at the time
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And if you were truly doing your humanitarian stuff, why on earth are you bothered about a hat? Surely you have more pressing things to worry about.
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As akelarumi said, why should you have an event souvenir when you weren't there?
Ayuhmii Shanbwa
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@Ayuhmii I'm yet to see a reason to give the hats out. If anything Anet has already taken a step towards letting you have missed hats with the token, why get greedy?
to make people happy would be short answer, and getting greedy isnt what i meant, more like before GW2 comes out, people also want masks, so giving them right away at the events would be nicer, so they dont need to log in GW next times anymore As akelarumi said, why should you have an event souvenir when you weren't there? cuz everyone who plays GW have bought it... or should have, and they deserve it too |
and its an excuse to say "they should be there" everytime again, while people in GW (and who will join GW2) are doing the last few things now, and need to enjoy the last days/weeks/months/whatever enough (imo), so giving them the masks right away, would make them happier AKA feel better, which determines the future of GW2
and as i said several times before:
- masks/hats are just for showing up
- they only make people happy if they give all masks at once, it cant be that some people get angry or annoyed if we get em all even tomorrow or something.... unless they think others dont deserve what they got, which i call "greedy"
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plz dont call ME greedy while i dont mind waiting, i was thinking about those who actually wont be playing GW as much after GW2 releases.. and those who will quit GW (prolly for a while, or long time) after a while, that way they at least got some more nice stuff
people most likely wont quit forever, and having all masks/hats while coming back would be nice, and a better way for anet to say: you like it, you can get it now
if i had a sig here, i'd put this in my sig... but remember this:
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Andemius
Okay, that was a messy post...
The bottom line is: If you wanted the Hat, you should have made the effort and got yourself to the event.
The people who made the effort to get there (and to all intents and purposes could AFK the whole time) are the people who DESERVE the hat.
If you did not attend you have no claim to deserve it. What you are saying is akin to me saying I deserve 100 Wintergreen spears because I bought GW.
The people who are quitting GW when GW2 is released have no need of hats.
As for "making people happy". Seriously? Anet has already allowed the Tengu Mask and Dragon Mask to become available to anyone, even if they were not there for the start of factions.
I've never seen a more apt example of "giving an inch and taking a mile".
And before you ask me to read your posts carefully I'd ask they be less rambling and all more readable.
The bottom line is: If you wanted the Hat, you should have made the effort and got yourself to the event.
The people who made the effort to get there (and to all intents and purposes could AFK the whole time) are the people who DESERVE the hat.
If you did not attend you have no claim to deserve it. What you are saying is akin to me saying I deserve 100 Wintergreen spears because I bought GW.
The people who are quitting GW when GW2 is released have no need of hats.
As for "making people happy". Seriously? Anet has already allowed the Tengu Mask and Dragon Mask to become available to anyone, even if they were not there for the start of factions.
I've never seen a more apt example of "giving an inch and taking a mile".
And before you ask me to read your posts carefully I'd ask they be less rambling and all more readable.
Daesu
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the reason i give GW2 as example, is cuz most people from the GW community, go there
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I am for extending the life of GW1 as much as possible so the corresponding hats should only be given based on involvement in each festivity.
Ayuhmii Shanbwa
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Are you certain that EVERY SINGLE GW1 player will definitely be in GW2? I don't know why you keep assuming that everyone would be playing GW2 and because of that GW1 should just die and all hats be given out at once.
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plz read first
and ok, make it "to make people in GW happier" instead of just "happy"
Daesu
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read the quote you sent again, and you'll see i didnt say all
plz read first and ok, make it "to make people in GW happier" instead of just "happy" |
Ayuhmii Shanbwa
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Except the reason why the majority of us do not agree with your suggestion is because we are NOT happy with it.
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how could this harm the game and its community?
i mean, nothing would be wrong if they had only 1 same mask every year from the start of GW, so a lil extra wont hurt
its not like all skills getting stronger, or enemies become weaker with hats on
i dont get it, i said i dont mind waiting myself, and just want others to be happy, so how come that i dont mind seeing people becoming happier, and the majority of these forums do? (i dont count ingame, cuz we dont know even half of the people there, but i bet most wouldnt mind or become happier)
oh yea, i'm now asking why people are unhappy with this idea... plz gimme 1 reason
Winner
Well, after giving tengu hat on last event I think it's ok for them to give away all the hats for free. I don't approve but then again I don't care that much. Those people are using to get everything with zero effort so they'll get this as well, it's their decision.
Andemius
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oh yea, i'm now asking why people are unhappy with this idea... plz gimme 1 reason
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The people who currently have said hats, made the effort to attend the event/collect the tokens - and it's not hard to do so. You can get the early hats, if you weren't playing at the time of release, by attending the festivals. Ownership of the earlier hats is a perk given to people who played then.
Have another example: HoM rewards are all asthetics, like the hats. Asking for all the hats is like asking for the HoM reward skins. Make the effort if you want them.
Daesu
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then let someone finally explain whats really wrong with it
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Why is giving everyone 50/50 HoM points, GWAMM, stacks of ectos, for free, instantly, upon character creation is bad? You tell us.
It doesn't matter if the hats are merely cosmetic because most of the rewards in this game are merely cosmetic anyway. You think your Voltaic spear does more damage than my regular spear? Geez...why don't we just give everyone a voltaic spear (or insert your favorite rare skin <here>) since it is only cosmetic anyway.
Hanok Odbrook
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Originally Posted by Daesu
The purpose of the hats has always been to get people to come down and join in the festivities. If you give all the hats at once, people would not bother to take part in each of the festivities in order to earn those hats. This has always been a GW1 feature and has nothing to do with GW2 so don't bring up confusion.
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Hanok