How does arena net deal with macros?
ryman75
If i wanted to use a macro to use non spammable tonics has arena net ever stated this is against the rules?
Marty Silverblade
It's a grey area. The search button still works. Dug this up with about 2 seconds of effort: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/q...ighlight=macro
Zenzai
People used them spam alcohol points and were banned. Fully automatic macros are bannable.
Relyk
If you are using a macro that give an advantage over other users i.e. bot or similar, then it's bannable. Anet still reserves the right to ban you for any third party program, but in all likelihood, they won't pursue the issue if it's something benign like consumable spam. Do so at your own risk.
Winner
How does arena net deal with macros?
With banhammer.
With banhammer.
Snograt
Non-spammable tonics? You'd be looking at a macro that drinks a tonic, runs to adjacent town (I used Ascalon/Great Northern Wall) drink tonic, run back, rinse & repeat.
I suspect that's exactly the kind of bot-like behaviour that will ring alarm bells everywhere.
(When I say "I used..." I should point out that I did it manually and yes, it was a pain.)
I suspect that's exactly the kind of bot-like behaviour that will ring alarm bells everywhere.
(When I say "I used..." I should point out that I did it manually and yes, it was a pain.)
akelarumi
First rule is that they are not allowed. If you are to be banned is a grey area. e.g. a macro to load in a weapon set and a skillset with a single click in a pvp staging area won't be banned. If your using a macro to autorun to target and click skill 1-6 with a single click will get you banned.
KIDGOOCH
Not sure how many tonics you are using but I went through nearly 500 in less than an hour by using one then switching to an intl dis using one zone back...
Unless you have a ton more than that, it just as easy to push a few buttons.
If your connection is fast you can hit and zone in 2 seconds.
Unless you have a ton more than that, it just as easy to push a few buttons.
If your connection is fast you can hit and zone in 2 seconds.
Notorious Bob
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Originally Posted by akelarumi
First rule is that they are not allowed. If you are to be banned is a grey area. e.g. a macro to load in a weapon set and a skillset with a single click in a pvp staging area won't be banned. If your using a macro to autorun to target and click skill 1-6 with a single click will get you banned.
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True keyboard macros have always been a grey area - Anet even provided a Logitech G15 gaming keyboard as a competition prize at one point - and they were the king of keyboard macros.
Any macro that simply strings key-presses together isn't gonna be bannable.
Anything that is more elaborate, process mouse location for auto-running for example is more likely to fall under scrutiny.
But basic key-press macros on a G15 are perfectly ok including, target-nearest and 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8!
Timer based stuff for spamming drunkard points while AFK has never been officially commented on by Anet - see above about the G15 keyboard prize - I believe this very question was asked and never answered.
Snograt
Gaile did comment on drunkard autoclickers once. It was very vague and pretty much said what this thread has - it's against the EULA, it's a minor infringement but it might lead to a ban.
Tl;dr - it's probably ok, but don't go crying to support if you get nobbled.
Tl;dr - it's probably ok, but don't go crying to support if you get nobbled.
Star_Jewel
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Anything that is more elaborate, process mouse location for auto-running for example is more likely to fall under scrutiny.
But basic key-press macros on a G15 are perfectly ok including, target-nearest and 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8! |
The problem is, whether you're pushing the macro key yourself or looping it, either could trigger their bot flag. ANet is known for banning first and maybe asking questions later. And if you had such a complex macro going, regardless of whether you were firing it manually or not, it might be tough to prove complete innocence.
(I used to have a G11 keyboard macro to maintain my enchantments for E/Me vaettir farming because I suck -- the damage skills were done manually -- but after the bot crackdown, I quit using it because it just wasn't worth the risk.)
Notorious Bob
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Originally Posted by Star_Jewel
I seem to recall reading a clarification about it, probably on Gaile's talk page, but not sure, that they will ban you for any automation that can run while you are not at the computer. I interpret that to mean that, yes, you can set up a macro to target nearest and then activate a succession of skills and then stop until you push the macro key again. But once you set that macro to loop, you're putting yourself in serious jeopardy.
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Originally Posted by Snograt
Gaile did comment on drunkard autoclickers once. It was very vague and pretty much said what this thread has - it's against the EULA, it's a minor infringement but it might lead to a ban.
Tl;dr - it's probably ok, but don't go crying to support if you get nobbled. |
Dar Drakor
I would imagine thar they would be more attuned to any macros, especially timered macros, used OUTSIDE of towns and outposts. Plenty of people has used macros to get drunkard title before they enabled spamming of alcohol and I dont know of anyone that was banned for that specifically.
Rhododendron
At the moment Arenanet has abandoned all forms of support and maintenance of their old game everything being automated. This goes as far as player run bots being present not only in the instanced areas for the usual farming but as far as participating in pvp format arenas, in plain sight. See Jade Quarry, where at certain hours you can see entire bot teams fighting each other (2/3 capture points remain neutral for the whole length of the game while "players" fight as far as even 5 steps from them with o intention of doing anything else - witnessed in 3 consecutive matches)
So buddy, do not worry, at this point nobody gives a damn about your macros.
So buddy, do not worry, at this point nobody gives a damn about your macros.
doomfodder
If you have access to War In Kryta, then all creatures near Zinn's lab are inflicted with Loose Magic every three seconds. Therefor ALL tonics usable in explorable areas are spammable here (without having to zone/rezone continuously). So you just need to enter Zinn's Lab and start clicking...
Winner
It's called cheating. Since you would be having access to third party program, which us, people who don't cheat wouldn't have. So, don't be so lazy and just click on the things...
Zaph
There is more satisfaction doing it yourself then letting a script doing stuff for you, believe me. And if you use macros and bots, you'd risk a ban - you don't want to lose everything you've done.
Above said coming from a person that lost his account cause he was greedy enough to try using macros and bots... but in the end of the day - crime does not pay..
Above said coming from a person that lost his account cause he was greedy enough to try using macros and bots... but in the end of the day - crime does not pay..
Pyrthas
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There is more satisfaction doing it yourself then letting a script doing stuff for you, believe me.
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I also remapped a bunch of keys to click so I could mash my keyboard instead of hurting my hand for drunkard. (Thank goodness for the drunkard update.)
CE Devilman
if U macro to move from point A to point B and use a action and jump back to point A..red flag
(macro use the same timer to do the same action over and over)
autohotkeying on skills or on heros to put enc on you..nop
autohotkeying pause on timer after skill
skill:12345678
pause 123ms (the time it takes to press U finger down)
skill:12345678
pause 153ms (the time it takes to press U finger down)
skill:12345678
pause 133ms (the time it takes to press U finger down)
(macro use the same timer to do the same action over and over)
autohotkeying on skills or on heros to put enc on you..nop
autohotkeying pause on timer after skill
skill:12345678
pause 123ms (the time it takes to press U finger down)
skill:12345678
pause 153ms (the time it takes to press U finger down)
skill:12345678
pause 133ms (the time it takes to press U finger down)