Convert GW1 to pay for play?

esthetic

esthetic

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Join Date: Apr 2008

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Was wondering how many of you GW1 fans would pay to play GW1 if they kept a full time staff on and made the future content upgrades and what not.

If so how much per month?

I have a feeling that no one would pay for somthing that had been free before... but was curious. I would pay like $5.00-$10.00 a month if they maintained everything and kept it going.

Thrilla Killa

Thrilla Killa

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Join Date: Aug 2006

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uh no. The game being free was the main reason why i bought it. If theres a fee, i'll for sure be gone.

ectogasm

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2012

This is a solution in search of a problem. And it's not really a solution either. Anet has no plans to shut down GW and there are marketing reasons not to. Additionally, if they want to monetize new content for GW they already have an existing channel for that, the shop. The subscription model has failed almost every other MMO, so your thinking runs counter to the direction that the entire industry has been going, and is likely to do more harm than good.

king cougor

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If they continued to release new content, maybe even a new campaign?? I Would for sure, probably like $5. But this would NEVER HAPPEN because it could draw more people away from gw2. And gw2 is what they really want everyone to play. I really dont think anet gives 2 craps about guildwars1 anymore, its become a flashback quest for gw2 where all anyone does anymore is grind HoM for stuff for their gw2 accounts..

Andemius

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GW was never made to be subscription based, and that's why it succeeded. Full support team or otherwise, subscriptions would just cause nearly everyone left to leave.

Since this'll never happen, I put to you the hypothetical question, Why would you pay to play GW1 when you can play GW2 for free?

Linksys

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

"Why would you pay to play GW1 when you can play GW2 for free?"

Some people may like GW1 so much more than GW2 that, if GW1 became subscription based, they may be willing to pay to play it. Then again, some people may say things like "I hate GW2 so much that I'd rather pay to play GW1 than play GW2 for free", but if it later happens, they actually won't.

Anet/NC Soft could pull a really d*** move and make new GW1 content that requires a linked GW2 account, for storyline or other reasons. Content that costs a real money fee and done to try to get people to get GW 2. Maybe a major content update. I'm sure they wouldn't really do that. I hope. Not insinuating that they would.

Andemius

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Whether you prefer it or otherwise, paying subs to play a game which is to all intents and purposes very quiet, but also has a new F2P successor is plain stupidity.

Even if there was a full support team and new events, that fact that GW1 is sub free is why I play it. If it had ANY type of subscription, I would not have picked it up.

Tundra

Tundra

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

some 30 Euros/$ a year would be still ok, if they would continue by adding new content, missions, areas, weapons etc to the game regularly.. but since its not going to happen, why bother. Its the same game as it was before. People are still playing either for titles or for the game. yesterday i realised that there is no point of worrying. people who like it will still play it and who dont will leave it and Anet is not going to do anything to get the leavers back. so why bother and worry just enjoy gw1 while it lasts.

Linksys

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Join Date: Apr 2006

"Even if there was a full support team and new events, that fact that GW1 is sub free is why I play it. If it had ANY type of subscription, I would not have picked it up. "

That's a point you had that I was going to comment on, but forgot. That point is completely valid and I do agree. GW started as an alternative to World of Warcraft and people ate it up initially because there were no monthly fees. And there would be people who will feel betrayed if that changed.

cosyfiep

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in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

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I already PAID for it, why would I pay again? (also have done many micro-transactions).

so NO!
just leave it as it is. (though would like to see the 'live team' come back and finish the projects they started).

Mintha Syl

Mintha Syl

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Join Date: Apr 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by Andemius View Post
GW was never made to be subscription based, and that's why it succeeded. Full support team or otherwise, subscriptions would just cause nearly everyone left to leave.
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Originally Posted by Andemius View Post
Even if there was a full support team and new events, that fact that GW1 is sub free is why I play it. If it had ANY type of subscription, I would not have picked it up.
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Originally Posted by cosyfiep View Post
I already PAID for it, why would I pay again? (also have done many micro-transactions).
I quote those cause they pretty much resume my thoughts.

Bad idea, bad idea.

Linksys

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Join Date: Apr 2006

I agree and I'm not saying that to tow the line. When I said that some people would pay more to play GW1 over playing GW2, I wasn't saying that I would do that. I just figure some people dislike GW2 to the point of being willing to pay more to play GW1 if they had to.

drowze

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Join Date: Apr 2006

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Originally Posted by cosyfiep View Post
I already PAID for it, why would I pay again? (also have done many micro-transactions).

so NO!
just leave it as it is. (though would like to see the 'live team' come back and finish the projects they started).
What Cosy said (except for the many micro-transactions ><)

Andemius

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Join Date: Nov 2008

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I agree and I'm not saying that to tow the line. When I said that some people would pay more to play GW1 over playing GW2, I wasn't saying that I would do that. I just figure some people dislike GW2 to the point of being willing to pay more to play GW1 if they had to.
Yep, each to their own and everything, but imo people who go "I hate GW2, I'll never play it again" after it's been live for like 10 days are just overreacting.

I don't figure why you'd pay a sub for GW1, especially at this late stage, when GW2 and other games are sub free.

Cuilan

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One of the things that attracted me to the game was the lack of a monthly fee, but with that said I'd be willing to pay for new content and better staffing whatever way I could.

Linksys

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

As much as some people would pay more to play GW1, especially for major additional content, I'm sure if they started a monthly fee then most GW1 gamers would say bye bye. In fact it's obvious that most would, especially those who faded away and don't give GW much thought if any anymore. They would just let their GW accounts get locked down or whatever.

Imagine if Apple bought out NC Soft and Arena Net and tried to make changes to Guild Wars to 'hip it up.' And they required monthly fees and those who decide to decline don't just get their accounts locked down. Their accounts and everything gets terminated like none of it ever happened. Only good thing would be that they'd make a version of the GW program for Mac computers. Makes me glad that NC/Arena didn't sell itself to a company like Apple.

godis

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I would however pay for another expansion !

Mintha Syl

Mintha Syl

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I would however pay for another expansion !
Yeah that's a totally different story. One time payment like we did for the rest of the game previosuly has all another sense. But they stopped doing that so...

headlesshobbs

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Join Date: Apr 2006

I really don't know why anyone in their right mind would suggest forcing a game through a subscription model. Most MMO's are going free to play, but if you were to pressure one to go from the promise "pay once, play forever" into monthly fees, you just committed marketing suicide.

None of us who play GW would ever go with that. Also if anyone thinks the lack of funds were what's killing support, remember they put all their effort into GW2 well before it was even ready to hit beta. They made the choice, the fault is all theirs, nothing more.

Highlander Of Alba

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As I also have many Alts no way would pay for something thats always been free.

If you like to pay a sub have a look at Blade and Soul the other game coming your way from NCsoft that on a sub.

ectogasm

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Join Date: Aug 2012

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One of the things that attracted me to the game was the lack of a monthly fee, but with that said I'd be willing to pay for new content and better staffing whatever way I could.
There is nothing stopping anyone from throwing money at GW through the store. If Anet sees continued revenue from it then they definitely won't shut it down, and if they see a lot of money from it they're much more likely to keep the live team staffed and develop new content. And since it's not required of everyone to pay, there will still be a community around to make it worthwhile. All in all a much better deal than paying a sub fee to play in a ghost town.

So everyone who is claiming that they don't mind paying to keep GW alive, well, go right ahead, no need to discuss it here as though it weren't possible.

Viktor990

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Join Date: Jan 2007

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I love gw sooo much that I would be willing to play any amount for new content!

m i L e s

m i L e s

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if you want to kill the game then sure make people pay.
a majority of the people bought it cause it wasnt pay to play. thats what makes it standout. so my answer would be no, i wouldnt keep playing.

mytwobits

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Join Date: Aug 2012

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Originally Posted by ectogasm View Post
There is nothing stopping anyone from throwing money at GW through the store. If Anet sees continued revenue from it then they definitely won't shut it down, and if they see a lot of money from it they're much more likely to keep the live team staffed and develop new content. And since it's not required of everyone to pay, there will still be a community around to make it worthwhile. All in all a much better deal than paying a sub fee to play in a ghost town.

So everyone who is claiming that they don't mind paying to keep GW alive, well, go right ahead, no need to discuss it here as though it weren't possible.
This is true. What I would want is content though. I would be afraid that buying costume packs would make them think I actually want costume packs for example. I did buy the bonus mission pack. I will probably buy a couple of bank slots if the price goes back to the one I saw when I first started playing a month or so ago.

Perkunas

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Add a monthly fee to play GW? They add even a $1.00 fee to play, everything related to GW will vanish from my computer, even links to online sites. I bought it, not going to pay "rent" to play it.

Malice Black

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Join Date: Oct 2005

Terrible idea. The subscription era is coming to an end.

Lourens

Lourens

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Join Date: Mar 2006

I do not think they will kill the servers very soon, but why on earth would you pay subscription fees for Guildwars if you can play Guildwars 2 without fees?

MithranArkanere

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That won't work.

F2P with a gem store like GW2's would, as not everyone has a machine that can run GW2, and lots of people play only free games.

Wipe out any and all farming methods and SCs to slow down or even halt completely bots and overfarmers, then add a gem store like GW2's, moving all items in the GW store there, and free players will fill the holes old players left.

Nekodesu

Nekodesu

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Join Date: Oct 2009

As much as I don't like the idea of paying for it, because I don't think I'd want to pay to play a game that is now more dead than it ever have been, I think I'd be willing to pay monthly if it meant there would be updates or expansions and it would result in the game populating again. I love Guild Wars, and now that I have moved over to Guild Wars 2, I miss it more than ever. It's nothing like Guild Wars, and it never will be as good as it was either...

Anakita Snakecharm

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I wouldn't pay a monthly fee. The reason I decided to give GW a try in the first place (since it's not my typical style of game) was that I could just buy it and not have to pay continually to use it.

I would pay directly for new content, though. I've bought some costumes and the BMP, and I'd be willing to pay a reasonable price for future Beyond content. That's a very different thing than having to throw money at it every month to keep using it at all.

If there had been a monthly fee to start out with, I wouldn't have begun playing this game in the first place, and I'm not willing to start paying every month now, regardless of the amount, because I expect what was promised when I bought it to be honoured.

Bellatrixa

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In all honesty, if I'd wanted to pay to play a game, I'd have bought WoW. I remember when GW and WoW were both released pretty close to each other and back then I worked in a branch of GAME. At the time my PC couldn't handle either game so I relied on my colleagues to try both games out and let me know how they felt about them. Over the years I have heard so many negative things about WoW, one of the biggest being the amount of money spent on a single game. Paying for a game when I might not be able to (or want to) sit down and play it every day? One of the things I've loved about Guild Wars is that I've been able to take breaks from it guilt free knowing I'm not wasting money while I do so. For a game that's not subscription based, there's also a shockingly older playerbase instead of a load of 8 year olds running around. I know that's hard to believe sometimes if you're reading local chat in Spamadan or LA.

A lot of companies now are realising that 1. a lot of countries are still in economic situations meaning tighter spending and 2. their games are more accessible without subscriptions. Sadly yes, this HAS led to the rise of microtransactions, but I still maintain that a buy to play model with optional extras that give no major advantage is the way to go. A lot of people started playing Guild Wars because of that ethic.

Looking at the first post, I don't see how making the game subscription based would lead to more content. If they had wanted to rake money in, that would have been easier done when the playerbase was much larger and I really don't think ANet are going to be stupid enough to try and strangle the small remaining playerbase when they could still generate income from the in game store. People would be happy to pay for new content (I'd happily shell out £40 for a whole new expansion, even now with GW2 out), but not with a subscription.

Age

Age

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It would possibly kill the game if this was done but it won't happen.What would be nice is if they updated the game using a third party eg. subcontract it out.

btw do away with the favour of the gods.

Premium Unleaded

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Join Date: Aug 2005

Ragnarok Online is a clear and present example of how crap a game can become if you license out its operation to a 3rd party.

akelarumi

akelarumi

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Join Date: Nov 2009

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Although I understand the OP's intentions it is way too late. Arenanet took a different path keeping free to play but with GW2. GW1 is still a very nice game, but both the engine as the graphics are very much outdated. Even for a pay to play game with a full team of dev's and support it would take a lot of investment to get it up to such standards that it would pay off. In the current state I think none would pay monthly fees for it, it is too old and too outdated. For a free to play game it is still very nice and even when thats too far out of the picture (keeping the servers alive would cost too much) I hope they will trust another party to make a free but private server (guru maybe??).


So as it is GW1 has a nice lifespan, maybe till it's 10th birthday (wich is btw pretty old for a game, let alone a online game). But it is already getting very old for a game. I'm not saying you should start digging it's grave but do think bout the old latin saying. Memento Mori.

Nothing lives forever. specially games.

jazilla

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the game had a great run. it's a great game. i played more hours of gw1 than any other game ever. that is saying something. i did all there was to do. earned all there was that i wanted to earn. i have now moved on to a tyria that is mind bogglingly beautiful. the landscape of tyria in gw2 is a thing of beauty.

Age

Age

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Ragnarok Online is a clear and present example of how crap a game can become if you license out its operation to a 3rd party.
I am not saying the operation just rebuild the game.

ectogasm

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2012

Now there's an interesting proposition. In lieu of the proper sequel we were hoping for, a Guild Wars 1 remake that could reintroduce the game to a brand new audience. Suppose Anet modernized the assets and interface options but otherwise retained the same gameplay and maybe even existing accounts. Would you pay a new game price to see this happen?

Xiabei

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2012

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Nope. The only reason I got into the game was no sub. Love the game, still so much to do, but if they ever did move to subs I would quit.

Sister Vickana

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2012

Tennessee US

A Guild?? What's that??

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This is very much a misguided idea that is pretty well shot down. Anet's success is because players like me paid for the base game then added either the other campaigns and EoTN. The ingame store is another reason why GW won't be a subscription when you've already paid for the extras packs such as the storage panes, pvp pack, and several other packages they offer.

Your idea is in this case pretty much dead.

Lithril Ashwalker

Lithril Ashwalker

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pay to play would lock people out of the accounts in order to regain the Hall of monuments which would highly effect how many get Guild Wars 2 as the confusion might rub off on which one was " p2p" - let alone the people out there that LOVE to grind and show off EPEEN, if they are charged / locked out of something they could earn in one game that cant show off in the next game they wont bite the hook -

That being said not only will the dev team be booked on making new content - but they still have to make it fit with the storyline to GW2 & still make those monthly skill updates im never gonna see because i will never touch gw2 again unless i get notification of it being hacked - Palawa joko WOULD be necessary as it was mentioned to use before.