GW 2? Possible Expansion For GW1?
cosyfiep
the original gw is STILL a great game, there is no reason to knock it--if you arent playing it, its YOUR loss. The game has TONS to offer that NO OTHER GAME CAN (not even the precious gw2!!!). THAT is why there are still people playing it and BUYING it. (just check out the thread in OT about finding another game like gw--no one could come up with one...it is unique!)
Mintha Syl
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Originally Posted by Sofonisba
I'll bet just the thought of people firing up a game of Bejeweled or Spider Solitaire keeps you up at night, eh?
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I really don't get why, in this forum (which is not gw2 forum) everytime there's a topic about expanding/staying on this game, someone comes out from the blue defending gw2 and insulting gw players...what is the point? And what is the point of being on, and writing on, the forum of a game you'd rather see death? Just to be a troll?
Anyway have to say a thing I didn't know where to write...did you all see an increase of population lately? When gw2 came out, italian districts were ghost towns, nobody to be found...lately I started seeing people around, and yesterday everywhere I went there was 2-3 persons chatting and starting missions together...I was so amazed....you think it's a general trend or only cause of holidays?
cosyfiep
the holiday is over....so unless they still have time off (would be nice)...most peeps should be back at work/school (school vacation for college is what? another 2-3 weeks off???? never did understand having a whole month off in dec/jan).
I have seen more people talking in LA and other places, and most are saying they are back because they have yet to finish gw (original) or just didnt get into gw2; either way this game is NOT dead--heck there are still people who refuse to leave pre-searing!! so yeah, not sure why peeps feel the need to defend the other game here.
I have seen more people talking in LA and other places, and most are saying they are back because they have yet to finish gw (original) or just didnt get into gw2; either way this game is NOT dead--heck there are still people who refuse to leave pre-searing!! so yeah, not sure why peeps feel the need to defend the other game here.
sun strike
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Originally Posted by IlikeGW
GW2 won several game of the year awards. They were well deserved. Don't believe the haters GW2 expands the capacity of the devs in pretty much every way to make a much cooler experience.
Things have changed, but it's worth it for WvW, a bigger live team than ever with cool updates, and just massive amount of content. Honestly people still playing GW1 kind of scare me... like a record is skipping and they're just sitting there listening to it that way. The future isn't evil. |
Ayuhmii Shanbwa
i'll say this about it:
if they should be doing well, like balancing GW2's gameplay and such, so it can go on with a bug and balance fix here and there, and after a while some expansions, then if they should give us, GW players, another expansion, we'll surely buy it
same with those playing both games, getting expansions for both games
also, if we look at perfect world for example, they have more than 2 games, yet the oldest game is still being updated (few months ago, it got whole new quests and such)
i dont get where they get it from, that once a newer game came out, that they leave their older games... if PW wouldve done that, they'd lose lots of customers
anet isnt stupid either, and so may better release an expansion for GW, to keep those customers happy
as said before: people play both GW and GW2, and some even dont like GW2, so will be back in GW.... would be stupid to leave those customers without any expansions
its just that thx to GW2's release, they used up alot of resources, and so need to get that back, by balancing the way GW2 goes (not just skills, also the bugs and such)
after that they'll be able to release the content elona would have, and after that they could start a new expansion... which IF they do, i hope they'll make more toward fun playing, than story toward GW2, tbh
but thats up to them
if they can do it, they wont be stupid and wait til GW really dies, as they could make money out of GW with new things, and maybe lure more people toward GW2, with a GW2 pack which also has that new GW expansion, but then the total of GW2 and that expansion, and a little bit off
that way people are like: oh, its cheaper if i buy GW2 and that expansion in 1 pack
i wouldnt buy it, cuz i've seen GW2 is totally not my game (although i see it IS a good game), but many other could think that would be a nice time to try
GW2 is new, and totally new, so it needs time, and once Anet got to the right direction with it, they may do much more in GW, too, which also takes some time then
all i can say is: there is a possibility, but be patient before raging against GW or GW2... or Anet for that matter
and stop making false facts (which arent facts then o_O)
well, i guess i said what i have to, to make my points clear enough
if they should be doing well, like balancing GW2's gameplay and such, so it can go on with a bug and balance fix here and there, and after a while some expansions, then if they should give us, GW players, another expansion, we'll surely buy it
same with those playing both games, getting expansions for both games
also, if we look at perfect world for example, they have more than 2 games, yet the oldest game is still being updated (few months ago, it got whole new quests and such)
i dont get where they get it from, that once a newer game came out, that they leave their older games... if PW wouldve done that, they'd lose lots of customers
anet isnt stupid either, and so may better release an expansion for GW, to keep those customers happy
as said before: people play both GW and GW2, and some even dont like GW2, so will be back in GW.... would be stupid to leave those customers without any expansions
its just that thx to GW2's release, they used up alot of resources, and so need to get that back, by balancing the way GW2 goes (not just skills, also the bugs and such)
after that they'll be able to release the content elona would have, and after that they could start a new expansion... which IF they do, i hope they'll make more toward fun playing, than story toward GW2, tbh
but thats up to them
if they can do it, they wont be stupid and wait til GW really dies, as they could make money out of GW with new things, and maybe lure more people toward GW2, with a GW2 pack which also has that new GW expansion, but then the total of GW2 and that expansion, and a little bit off
that way people are like: oh, its cheaper if i buy GW2 and that expansion in 1 pack
i wouldnt buy it, cuz i've seen GW2 is totally not my game (although i see it IS a good game), but many other could think that would be a nice time to try
GW2 is new, and totally new, so it needs time, and once Anet got to the right direction with it, they may do much more in GW, too, which also takes some time then
all i can say is: there is a possibility, but be patient before raging against GW or GW2... or Anet for that matter
and stop making false facts (which arent facts then o_O)
well, i guess i said what i have to, to make my points clear enough
Iceblue
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Originally Posted by IlikeGW
GW2 won several game of the year awards. They were well deserved. Don't believe the haters GW2 expands the capacity of the devs in pretty much every way to make a much cooler experience.
Things have changed, but it's worth it for WvW, a bigger live team than ever with cool updates, and just massive amount of content. Honestly people still playing GW1 kind of scare me... like a record is skipping and they're just sitting there listening to it that way. The future isn't evil. |
This is also why I think ArenaNet should come out with new maps/expansions for GW1. Players who enjoy the strategy of the game will buy them, even if there are no new classes, skills, etc. ArenaNet in their reasons for making GW2 said "While the promise of fresh standalone content twice a year sounds great to players, its requirements have actually caused Guild Wars to become somewhat convoluted from a game-design perspective.[1]" Instead of changing the business model of stand alone campaigns every 6 months, they should have just added expansions every six months....
And an FYI, supposedly the business model of new stand alone content every 6 months has been transferred over to GW2. Does anyone doubt that in 2 to 3 years GW2 will also become too convoluted?
Martin Firestorm
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Originally Posted by cosyfiep
so yeah, not sure why peeps feel the need to defend the other game here.
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Sofonisba
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Originally Posted by Martin Firestorm
...who also refuse to try GW2 for various reasons and always seem to be logged in, etc.
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Unfortunately, even though GW and GW2 bear absolutely no resemblance to one another whatsoever, they are not treated as separate games and are probably joined at the hip when it comes to resources. We can't expect more content for GW because they're all working on GW2. Grr
cosyfiep
yeah, that makes sense...
I, too, tried to like gw2...but after it blue-screened my computer (and since hubby cant play it on his), I just couldnt find it in my (fill in blank) to buy it (and no, I wont upgrade my computer just for some stupid silly video game
). We both played during the betas to see if we even liked the game, but my carpal tunnel said otherwise, and my hubby would rather play alien crossfire (hows that for an old game, huh???).....so nope, no plans to buy it and hope that anet see that others, like me, liked the originality and such of the original enough to make some further expansions (please please!!)
so not a hater, just not a liker (of gw2).
I, too, tried to like gw2...but after it blue-screened my computer (and since hubby cant play it on his), I just couldnt find it in my (fill in blank) to buy it (and no, I wont upgrade my computer just for some stupid silly video game
). We both played during the betas to see if we even liked the game, but my carpal tunnel said otherwise, and my hubby would rather play alien crossfire (hows that for an old game, huh???).....so nope, no plans to buy it and hope that anet see that others, like me, liked the originality and such of the original enough to make some further expansions (please please!!)so not a hater, just not a liker (of gw2).
Martin Firestorm
Nah, I make no assumptions about why somepone in particular does not play GW2. I'm just like you except for the trying desperately to love GW2 part. Both of my friends still playing GW1 regularly don't have the comp for GW2 and won't upgrade. I do think GW lovers who have the comp power should at least try GW2, for all the obvious reasons. While not the same games, they have a lot in comon, so it just makes sense. I doubt we'll see anymore meaningful content for GW1, and certainly not an expansion. But if there is I'll sure check it out.
Burning Freebies
To be fair, I have only said the game is dead because I don't spend much time in LA. I'm working on titles atm (Aren't we all...) so i am more often than not in a populated place. You know, like any mission outpost. They were all dead anyway after the initial release of the games, so that shouldn't be a problem. Also, I see LA with one district of people, I see Kama with 1 or 2 districts of people, I see Temple of Ages with plenty of people...Its not dead, its still alive (if that point hadn't already been established). Although you can't say it was as strong as it once was...
I also had my first two parties made up of only players in the past 2 months, doing Zaishen quests (hey, I don't get out much). Those things are really keeping players going, I think. Its great that I can team up with people to do the last missions I have to do to finish my guardian titles etc.
I also had my first two parties made up of only players in the past 2 months, doing Zaishen quests (hey, I don't get out much). Those things are really keeping players going, I think. Its great that I can team up with people to do the last missions I have to do to finish my guardian titles etc.
cosyfiep
LA has been dead since nightfall came out and the trade/party window thing that transformed kamadan into spamdan...and then when the 7 heroes came out more outposts depopulated. So its hard to judge the population of a game when all you see is the outposts that no one needs to hang out in anymore, yeah there are a lot less people in the few places that used to be rocking, but that doesnt mean the game is dead.
and I hope we are wrong and they will do something (especially since they have to know that people are still playing and BUYING the original gw!)
and I hope we are wrong and they will do something (especially since they have to know that people are still playing and BUYING the original gw!)
ruk1a
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LA has been dead since nightfall came out and the trade/party window thing that transformed kamadan into spamdan...and then when the 7 heroes came out more outposts depopulated. So its hard to judge the population of a game when all you see is the outposts that no one needs to hang out in anymore, yeah there are a lot less people in the few places that used to be rocking, but that doesnt mean the game is dead.
and I hope we are wrong and they will do something (especially since they have to know that people are still playing and BUYING the original gw!) |
I think they are working on things right now but it just takes forever because what the team has to be like 3 or 4 people at most lol.
Btw they do take feedback there.
Mintha Syl
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Originally Posted by ruk1a
I think they are working on things right now but it just takes forever because what the team has to be like 3 or 4 people at most lol.
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cosyfiep
yeah its news to me as well (I dont do anything with facebook), but would be nice if they would post on a forum some news either way.
Iceblue
Well since a little before wintersday someone who signs off ~SL has been updating the GW1 facebook page consistently... I wonder who they are.
Motoko
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Originally Posted by IlikeGW
GW2 won several game of the year awards. They were well deserved.
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GW2 won several of the game of the year awards? Really? Against what competition? Diablo III? LOL. Get real. GW2 won awards because it is pretty and every other game that has come out has been stale and uninventive (Including GW2 it was just one of the prettiest).
What are people's defense for GW2 not being dead? The servers are "populated"? Haha. "Commercially it is a success"? Seriously? Those are your defense statements? Go join those dev teams where they only care about the commercial success rather than the deep success of the video game itself. The care and unique aspects of GW1 are what has kept it enduring through these years.
The population of decline is greater in GW2 than it is in GW1 if you were to compare release to activity. That is a fact. Some people didn't like GW1? Great go pay to play with WoW. You had another alternative. GW2? Uhhh... Free to play WoW... No alternative... I'll just go back to GW1.
Back on topic: Making the PvP free to play would help increase activity and opting for the FTP accounts to purchase the trilogy to have access to the PvP reward skins and PvE content would help the game out. I would suggest increasing some easily accessible playerbase before rolling out an expansion.
Razer.blue
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Back on topic: Making the PvP free to play would help increase activity and opting for the FTP accounts to purchase the trilogy to have access to the PvP reward skins and PvE content would help the game out. I would suggest increasing some easily accessible playerbase before rolling out an expansion. |
This is what we need. I think it's a great idea. GW PvP is the best and more important, unique. You want to get the player base up without spoiling the game. You could also make pre-searing/starters zones free to play.
There are a lot of things NCSoft could do. Also, they could add new services/items to the store specifically aimed on these new players.
If it catches on and the playerbase indeed increases, another expansion could be, indeed, a possibility. Especially if the GW2 playerbase drops (only ncsoft know the numbers, therefore this remains a speculation), it would be dangerous to put 100% focus on GW2. They could make profit on GW1 by a new concept/expansion.
Guild Wars 1 is truly an unique game. It has many, many more years of life in it IF the GWcommunity / ncsoft come up with creative idea's to keep it alive and profitable.
Sofonisba
I would cry tears of joy if GW pvp got resed. Sounds silly, but it's true. Can't find that kind of fun anywhere else.
Burning Freebies
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+1
This is what we need. I think it's a great idea. GW PvP is the best and more important, unique. You want to get the player base up without spoiling the game. You could also make pre-searing/starters zones free to play. There are a lot of things NCSoft could do. Also, they could add new services/items to the store specifically aimed on these new players. If it catches on and the playerbase indeed increases, another expansion could be, indeed, a possibility. Especially if the GW2 playerbase drops (only ncsoft know the numbers, therefore this remains a speculation), it would be dangerous to put 100% focus on GW2. They could make profit on GW1 by a new concept/expansion. Guild Wars 1 is truly an unique game. It has many, many more years of life in it IF the GWcommunity / ncsoft come up with creative idea's to keep it alive and profitable. |
Sofonisba
Free to play meaning you wouldn't have to purchase the campaigns, you would just download the noob islands/presearing and pvp areas.
Divineshadows
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Originally Posted by Sofonisba
Free to play meaning you wouldn't have to purchase the campaigns, you would just download the noob islands/presearing and pvp areas.
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Martin Firestorm
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Originally Posted by Gladiator Motoko
The population of decline is greater in GW2 than it is in GW1 if you were to compare release to activity. That is a fact.
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It's too bad that you can't like GW without dissing GW2. Your shrugging off of awards won, servers populated with players, and commercial success is...let's just say unconvincing. What alternative metric do you use? Face it, you're not getting an expansion, free pvp or not. The player base is not going to expand. Silly to think it would. This is coming from someone who absolutlely loved this game and put in huge hours playing it. Just be glad you can still play a nearly 8 year old online game at all.
Burning Freebies
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Originally Posted by Sofonisba
Free to play meaning you wouldn't have to purchase the campaigns, you would just download the noob islands/presearing and pvp areas.
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Could be a good idea, might be worth a try.
Motoko
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Originally Posted by Martin Firestorm
Your source? Not even sure what that means. Trust me, the game is far from dead. I said the same thing about GW in response to posts like yours many times...7+ years ago. I was right then, and am right now.
It's too bad that you can't like GW without dissing GW2. Your shrugging off of awards won, servers populated with players, and commercial success is...let's just say unconvincing. What alternative metric do you use? Face it, you're not getting an expansion, free pvp or not. The player base is not going to expand. Silly to think it would. This is coming from someone who absolutlely loved this game and put in huge hours playing it. Just be glad you can still play a nearly 8 year old online game at all. |
I love GW without evening thinking GW2 exists at all. I don't know where you came to that horrible conclusion.
Commercial success does not equate to a quality game. Diablo 3 was a commercial success. Why? Because it banked on the reputation of it's predecessor.
I am not crying for an expansion. I am not crying for FTP. I am making a suggestion.
Instead of getting so butt hurt about my accurate posts, go play World Of Charrcraft instead.
Thanks.
Schmerdro
Sorry Motoko, but I have to agree that your previous post didn't make much sense.
The fact that GW 2 won several awards is a big deal, and it's another valid metric on which to judge a video game. Believe or not, some people like playing a game that is pretty and popular. You may not like it, but it's the present reality.
GW 2 is a commercial success and, again, this is a very relevant fact. Money is important; without it, people can't feed themselves, clothe themselves, nor pay for their homes.
You also said "the population of decline is greater in GW2 than it is in GW1 if you were to compare release to activity," which sounds interesting but, without a source, this is very much NOT a fact.
Anyway, I think that GvG and HA is going to remain or decline in activity because nobody is going to bother to learn (or re-learn, in case they're coming back) the PvP system in a game that has a very small PvP audience and didn't get an expansion in more than 5 years. And the developers tried to make PvP the selling point of the game in the Prophecies and Factions campaigns but, when they realized it wasn't attracting people and making them spend more money on the game, they focused on PvE instead.
And I wouldn't consider the starting PvE areas to be the strength of the game, nor a good preview of what the game has to offer later on.
The best thing they can do is offer more fun and challenging PvE content, more costumes, and maybe some skill buffs. Those have been proven to work and there's no reason why they would change their strategy.
The fact that GW 2 won several awards is a big deal, and it's another valid metric on which to judge a video game. Believe or not, some people like playing a game that is pretty and popular. You may not like it, but it's the present reality.
GW 2 is a commercial success and, again, this is a very relevant fact. Money is important; without it, people can't feed themselves, clothe themselves, nor pay for their homes.
You also said "the population of decline is greater in GW2 than it is in GW1 if you were to compare release to activity," which sounds interesting but, without a source, this is very much NOT a fact.
Anyway, I think that GvG and HA is going to remain or decline in activity because nobody is going to bother to learn (or re-learn, in case they're coming back) the PvP system in a game that has a very small PvP audience and didn't get an expansion in more than 5 years. And the developers tried to make PvP the selling point of the game in the Prophecies and Factions campaigns but, when they realized it wasn't attracting people and making them spend more money on the game, they focused on PvE instead.
And I wouldn't consider the starting PvE areas to be the strength of the game, nor a good preview of what the game has to offer later on.
The best thing they can do is offer more fun and challenging PvE content, more costumes, and maybe some skill buffs. Those have been proven to work and there's no reason why they would change their strategy.
Motoko
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The fact that GW 2 won several awards is a big deal, and it's another valid metric on which to judge a video game. Believe or not, some people like playing a game that is pretty and popular. You may not like it, but it's the present reality.
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Do you see a difference? You might not like the fact that GW2 had no competition and that is why they won SOME awards, but it's the present reality.
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GW 2 is a commercial success and, again, this is a very relevant fact. Money is important; without it, people can't feed themselves, clothe themselves, nor pay for their homes.
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Anyway, I think that GvG and HA is going to remain or decline in activity because nobody is going to bother to learn (or re-learn, in case they're coming back) the PvP system in a game that has a very small PvP audience and didn't get an expansion in more than 5 years. And the developers tried to make PvP the selling point of the game in the Prophecies and Factions campaigns but, when they realized it wasn't attracting people and making them spend more money on the game, they focused on PvE instead.
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Jeydra
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Originally Posted by Martin Firestorm
Your source? Not even sure what that means. Trust me, the game is far from dead. I said the same thing about GW in response to posts like yours many times...7+ years ago. I was right then, and am right now.
It's too bad that you can't like GW without dissing GW2. Your shrugging off of awards won, servers populated with players, and commercial success is...let's just say unconvincing. What alternative metric do you use? Face it, you're not getting an expansion, free pvp or not. The player base is not going to expand. Silly to think it would. This is coming from someone who absolutlely loved this game and put in huge hours playing it. Just be glad you can still play a nearly 8 year old online game at all. |
If ANet decides to make another expansion for GW1, I'll probably wait a bit to see whether or not it's worth buying. However much some people may have nostalgic memories of GW1, it is a pretty dead game. As for how good GW2 is, lol, I could care less how some purists critique the game. What matters is whether or not it's fun. As long as it is, who cares about its drawbacks?
cosyfiep
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If ANet decides to make another expansion for GW1,... As for how good GW1 is, lol, I could care less how some purists critique the game. What matters is whether or not it's fun. As long as it is, who cares about its drawbacks? |
Ayuhmii Shanbwa
its funny how some say "you dont know how the game goes, cuz you have no sources" yet they also say "there wont be any expansions for GW(1)"
if anet makes profit enough out of GW2, and can do the same with GW, why shouldnt they take advantage of that?
i'm still waiting for any sources from Anet (links and such) that they said they wont ever make another expansion for GW(1) again
they'd be crazy if they could makeprofit from GW and GW2 at the same time, and not do it o_O
i see many newbies on the forums and MUCH more ingame
then i bet they still make money enough from GW's ingame stuff (char slots, packs and such)
so GW(1) is NOT dead, or dying, its just less populated than when people who now play other games were still here
and if GW2 really makes way more money for them, i bet GW can get more, too
also, i've seen so many return for GW's wintersday, while GW2 had it too
this is an endless and very unreliable "fact VS other fact" while anet hasnt told us any of these statements
i guess i could say "if both GW(1) and GW2 make enough money for Anet, they could make another expansion, to make even more profit out of it"
if anet makes profit enough out of GW2, and can do the same with GW, why shouldnt they take advantage of that?
i'm still waiting for any sources from Anet (links and such) that they said they wont ever make another expansion for GW(1) again
they'd be crazy if they could makeprofit from GW and GW2 at the same time, and not do it o_O
i see many newbies on the forums and MUCH more ingame
then i bet they still make money enough from GW's ingame stuff (char slots, packs and such)
so GW(1) is NOT dead, or dying, its just less populated than when people who now play other games were still here
and if GW2 really makes way more money for them, i bet GW can get more, too
also, i've seen so many return for GW's wintersday, while GW2 had it too
this is an endless and very unreliable "fact VS other fact" while anet hasnt told us any of these statements
i guess i could say "if both GW(1) and GW2 make enough money for Anet, they could make another expansion, to make even more profit out of it"
Wise Watchman
I don't think we'll see a boxed in-stores release of an expansion but I think there is a possibility of something similar to the bonus mission pack.
As has already been mentioned, if there is no news of any future updates by the end of April, my hopes of anything will rest there.
As has already been mentioned, if there is no news of any future updates by the end of April, my hopes of anything will rest there.
Ayuhmii Shanbwa
1 more offtopic part for the GW2 being busy, and GW being silent right now:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNCb4uVYbbk
he explains that they are going to give it all in GW2, like filing up every spot on the map and such
meaning (most likely) that they will spend a little more time in GW2 with most of the team, and will get some of the team back to GW if they are far enough with GW2
ps. this is NO post about GW2 itself, just a little more info about what they OFFICIALLY said what they want with GW2
check out that channel, and subscribe if you have a youtube account, to get more news about GW2 (mostly), but i've seen stuff about GW's embark and 7 hero teams before
to make it clear: i did NOT say they WILL give expansions, just that there's a chance... but whatever they will do with GW, has to wait some more, as they (what you can see/hear in the video) are going to do some more with their team in GW2, to make it better
so GW may have to wait some more, but they never said its not going to be updated
and as i see it, GW2 goes well, and they learned from some "mistakes" they made (he mentioned they wanted wintersday to be more open than what they did with halloween), and so their game goes very well now, so i doubt they will leave GW as it is
again: GW2 needs more attention at the moment, before they split their team into 2 smaller teams for both games
thats what i can see now
i guess thats what i wanted to say for this subject, good luck with having your own "facts" which Anet didnt even tell you
i'm out (of this topic), and i have enough faith in you, Anet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNCb4uVYbbk
he explains that they are going to give it all in GW2, like filing up every spot on the map and such
meaning (most likely) that they will spend a little more time in GW2 with most of the team, and will get some of the team back to GW if they are far enough with GW2
ps. this is NO post about GW2 itself, just a little more info about what they OFFICIALLY said what they want with GW2
check out that channel, and subscribe if you have a youtube account, to get more news about GW2 (mostly), but i've seen stuff about GW's embark and 7 hero teams before
to make it clear: i did NOT say they WILL give expansions, just that there's a chance... but whatever they will do with GW, has to wait some more, as they (what you can see/hear in the video) are going to do some more with their team in GW2, to make it better
so GW may have to wait some more, but they never said its not going to be updated
and as i see it, GW2 goes well, and they learned from some "mistakes" they made (he mentioned they wanted wintersday to be more open than what they did with halloween), and so their game goes very well now, so i doubt they will leave GW as it is
again: GW2 needs more attention at the moment, before they split their team into 2 smaller teams for both games
thats what i can see now
i guess thats what i wanted to say for this subject, good luck with having your own "facts" which Anet didnt even tell you
i'm out (of this topic), and i have enough faith in you, Anet
Perkunas
I would love to see another expansion for GW1. Something "replaying" the history of Orr and how the Crystal Desert came to be. "Activate" the quest line in Embark Beach and relive Orr in its last year or two before its fall. They can "reskin" the existing desert, add a couple of outposts, even overlap parts of the Eye of the North areas that are in the southern areas, explaining some of the structures found in the Tangled Root area of the current map.
This would allow more content with mostly just skin changes. Maybe a new monster or two, but no major time commitment.
Something similar could also be done for the Jade Sea.
Not everything new would have to be about tieing GW1 to GW2, it could also be more about the history of GW1.
Just my thoughts.
This would allow more content with mostly just skin changes. Maybe a new monster or two, but no major time commitment.
Something similar could also be done for the Jade Sea.
Not everything new would have to be about tieing GW1 to GW2, it could also be more about the history of GW1.
Just my thoughts.
DiogoSilva
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I never said it was dead. The rate that is dying is much faster than GW1.
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Guild Wars 2 has sold way past their expectations. They reached their core user base around a month back, and the population has been steadily growing each week.
It's very normal for hyped games at release, especially for MMORPGs, to attract a lot of curious new players that might or not enjoy them, that might stay or leave early on. The same has probably happened with GW1.
According to that quote, the number of players that actively log in the game (the "core user base") has only been getting higher, without any sudden drops so far. This means the game is keeping and expanding its dedicated user base, and with big patches coming each month with new content or improved old content,it's unlikely that user base gets a sudden drop unless Anet screws big time.
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Tieing GW1 to GW2 for any future content is the most healthy solution for the prequel, because each game would advertise each other. Players who would grow attached to the new lore in one of the two games, could potentially go to the other to get a bit more out of it.
Razer.blue
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Originally Posted by DiogoSilva
Here's a quote from the game's director:
Guild Wars 2 has sold way past their expectations. They reached their core user base around a month back, and the population has been steadily growing each week. It's very normal for hyped games at release, especially for MMORPGs, to attract a lot of curious new players that might or not enjoy them, that might stay or leave early on. The same has probably happened with GW1. |
hermitsoul
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May I ask the date when this quote was given and the source?
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Check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=8c506z5fUEA#
MMOFTW Colin Johanson livestream was on Jan 18th - his part starts at about 18 minutes. They also talk some about GW1, which was interesting.
GW1 bits:
GW1 had a very small live team because it wasn't able to generate a consistent revenue to support the game. The GW2 Gem Store allows them to have a pretty large live team. It's 15-20 times larger then the GW1 live team.
GW1 was easier to create for because the content was easier to set up - go somewhere, kill some guys, go back and get your rewards... GW2 content is a lot more complicated to set up.
Una Ankharan
Just watched it. I did not hear anything in the video that would suggest that they couldn't keep updating and adding new stuff to GW1.
Ayuhmii Shanbwa
i think people confuse themselves by thinking "something goes better than they thought, so they wont touch their other games anymore"
all i can say is: they are still working hard on GW2, so GW will have to wait some longer, especially cuz GW2 goes much better than what they expected
also "if its no fun, we change it" attitude may be added to GW some more, too
its just (again) that GW has to wait some more, before they can leave GW2 to a smaller live team, as it still has major bugs and balances to work on right now
again: why leaving GW, while they can still make money out of it, and keep it alive long enough?
he said alot "we wanna do it real good" so that points to the fact GW2 needs more time, and GW gotta wait longer.... but not many people read this, so they keep on with the rumor that GW will be left alone with the smaller live team it has now
they need more people in GW2 now, so that they can add new stuff, and fix everything they can, and i see them return to GW later on
(not gonna post much here anymore, cuz i repeat stuff, and thats cuz people keep saying GW will die, or left alone, while Anet never said that at all)
lets hope someone from Anet gets on a video (or in text) and say how GW will be supported later on (with or without new expansions, and new content like the elona one, which they wanted to release before, but couldnt due to GW2 being closer), so that we dont have fake/unsure facts all the time
thx for the link, i now see how they could leave GW on a hold update wise, and i wont even bother explaining that "unsure" stuff isnt "true" anymore
i'll leave this topic for the time being now, i'll see what they will do to my favorite and only REAL played MMO (CORPG... fine
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all i can say is: they are still working hard on GW2, so GW will have to wait some longer, especially cuz GW2 goes much better than what they expected
also "if its no fun, we change it" attitude may be added to GW some more, too
its just (again) that GW has to wait some more, before they can leave GW2 to a smaller live team, as it still has major bugs and balances to work on right now
again: why leaving GW, while they can still make money out of it, and keep it alive long enough?
he said alot "we wanna do it real good" so that points to the fact GW2 needs more time, and GW gotta wait longer.... but not many people read this, so they keep on with the rumor that GW will be left alone with the smaller live team it has now
they need more people in GW2 now, so that they can add new stuff, and fix everything they can, and i see them return to GW later on
(not gonna post much here anymore, cuz i repeat stuff, and thats cuz people keep saying GW will die, or left alone, while Anet never said that at all)
lets hope someone from Anet gets on a video (or in text) and say how GW will be supported later on (with or without new expansions, and new content like the elona one, which they wanted to release before, but couldnt due to GW2 being closer), so that we dont have fake/unsure facts all the time
thx for the link, i now see how they could leave GW on a hold update wise, and i wont even bother explaining that "unsure" stuff isnt "true" anymore
i'll leave this topic for the time being now, i'll see what they will do to my favorite and only REAL played MMO (CORPG... fine
)
Razer.blue
Watched it as well. Still you should take this all with a grain of salt. When speaking publicly about GWII they are obviously going to be nothing but positive. For example, he's talking about sales saying it did better then they expected. But let's be real for a second, GWII was extremely hyped! They have been working on it for 5 years(!) (it should bring large profits, else the company will go bankrupt), so sure they expected it. They needed it.
DiogoSilva
Sure, PR speak is always vague and positive, so we can't even know what they mean by "their expectations". But regardless of how high or low their expections are, it confirms that the game is NOT losing it's user base, with the exception of the early influx of curious new players (but that happens in any MMO), and it downright states that the game's core userbase is expanding steadily. Which is my point, in reply to whoever stated that GW2's user base was dropping into disaster, at a much higher speed than GW1's user base itself, without the facts to back it up.