Candy Canes, cheapening PvE? - Guild Wars Guru archive powered by Guild Wars Legacy

darkMishkin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Mo/

10 Jan 2006 at 18:02 - 41

Quote:

Originally Posted by WoodyDotNet

I like the idea and hope they do continue it with some sort of med kit or potion.

No no no no no no no no no no. No.
Candy Canes? Fine. They're temporary and I couldn't care less that people have been stocking them, because they will dissapear eventually. But it is completely against GWs' philosophy to introduce consumable potions. The introduction of chest-keys was already a step too far, but energy and health giving items should not (and will not) become a part of this game.

Akathrielah

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

10 Jan 2006 at 19:13 - 42

PvE players have no skill to bring down anyway

*duck and cover*

Sorry couldn't resist >.>

Lelani

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

10 Jan 2006 at 19:33 - 43

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Originally Posted by VGJustice

If that's what you think, then don't use them. Seems pretty simple to me.

I personally don't, and won't use them myself, I used one or two during the holiday period as they were a festive gift. I presumed they would be removed afterwards, as in most games they would be the equivalent to cheating. ANet couldn't fail to know they would be abused and farmed in massive numbers.

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Originally Posted by sirelricthemad

Cheapening? The only disadvantage I can see in them is... um... well nothing really. PvE wasn't overly challenging too begin with, and It jsut helps ppl enjoy the game without getting frustrated to the point of freaking out.

PvE isn't too challenging I agree. With candy canes it becomes a walkover, the few difficult missions like Thirsty River, THK, Ring of Fire areas become relatively simple affairs, the odd exception of failing to protect a mission critical NPC might set people back, but an item negating DP means many of those destined to fail, won't. To me, this causes a generation of players if you like, (up until cane supply has drastically fallen) who become dependant on never having to worry about DP. Candy Canes just create a PvE game where it becomes almost impossible to fail, the reality of life is that not everybody wins.

Ask yourself if you want people running around without a clue in PvE ruining your experience because they won't learn from their mistakes. Not because they don't want to, but because for the meanwhile, candy canes mean they don't have to.

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Originally Posted by Mavrik

Having a candy cane is NOT making someone any less of a player or taking away any of their skills.

I stress, using them doesn't mean you have no skill I never claimed as such, and this was not the origional intent of my post.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akathrielah

PvE players have no skill to bring down anyway

Yeah, yeah wise guy :P

Manic Smile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hawaii

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10 Jan 2006 at 19:57 - 44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavrik

The game was bought by me for me and played by me. I don't give any concern to your enjoyment of the game since its not effecting mine.
/not agreed

wow...your neighboor/friend/lover must really like having you...

and people wonder what's wrong with America...LMAO

Eet GnomeSmasher

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

In my head

10 Jan 2006 at 19:58 - 45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lelani

... but an item negating DP means many of those destined to fail, won't.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lelani

Candy Canes just create a PvE game where it becomes almost impossible to fail, the reality of life is that not everybody wins.

Wow....you take gaming far too seriously. Destined to fail? The reality of life is that not everybody wins? I thought we were talking about a video game here. Where people play for FUN.

And before you accuse me of being dependant on candy canes, I've only used one once to see what it did and I hardly ever PVE anymore since I'm mostly a PvP player nowadays.

I do share the same concern that people will get even worse at the game but you have got to lighten up a bit. A bad player will be a bad player with or without candy canes....either way I avoid bad players.

Lelani

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

10 Jan 2006 at 20:15 - 46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eet GnomeSmasher

Wow....you take gaming far too seriously. Destined to fail? The reality of life is that not everybody wins? I thought we were talking about a video game here. Where people play for FUN.

Players behind characters have lives, in life not everyone is a winner. Also, is not the outcome of most, if not all? Games to either win or lose? Here we have winning, and deferred success by candy canes

. Perhaps destined is a rather grandiose word, true, but I stick to what I said, some people are just going to keep failing, one look at THK-D1 will tell you that.

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

10 Jan 2006 at 23:13 - 47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akathrielah

PvE players have no skill to bring down anyway

*duck and cover*

Sorry couldn't resist >.>

*Use SS Echo Necro and OWNZORZ Akathrielah's face* PvP that! MUAHHA!!

Pinch

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Canada

Mo/

11 Jan 2006 at 01:01 - 48

People die in PvE?

Mavrik

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Alaska

11 Jan 2006 at 01:11 - 49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manic Smile

wow...your neighboor/friend/lover must really like having you...

and people wonder what's wrong with America...LMAO

I'm a big anti "nerf" canadian living in the states. I'd say the "get tough or get out you wimp" american attitude is rubbing off on me. But seriously, if using a candy cane is making PvE cheap, then stand before the mighty lv20 ice golem in your boxers and no weapons... oh and no candy canes. Fight on I say... as I am offended by your exposure and hope you die out there

(all said with comedic sarcasm)

Blkout

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

11 Jan 2006 at 01:18 - 50

Sounds to me like the only people that are complaining are the one's that are jealous of the people who did farm them before the patch. Now they are being sold at quite a profit and some people are upset that they didn't think of the idea first. I guess your only way to get any attention is to create a thread about hoping Anet will take them away from those that spent so many hours farming them before the patch.

The Ghost in a Box at Halloween also had some good effects for Necromancers but a lot of people never knew it. Now the same with Candy Canes and people are crying about it now that's its all over. They will eventually be used up and dissapear, its no big deal.

Crazyvietguy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

[Njk]

Rt/

11 Jan 2006 at 01:21 - 51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinch

People die in PvE?

Unfortunantly its true, usually not someones own fault but another player not doing their job. So in that respect Candy comes in handy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akathrielah

PvE players have no skill to bring down anyway

*duck and cover*

Sorry couldn't resist >.>

I play both PvP and PvE, both are challenging in their own ways. Both require some strategy (PVP more, duh). LoL, i wouldnt flame PvEers though, if you wanna flame PvE talk to Anet, im sure they can hand you a nice closed account.
Seriously guys, Candy canes, I dont even worry about the obsession with them. I use them occasionally because of accidents and/or mstakes by other new players unknowledgeble about the game. However, i do share the annoyment of people spaming "WTS CANDY CANE 1k". For all you candy sellers, why dont you wait till someone wants to buy them, maybe then you wont spend 5 hours selling your 9, 250 each candy cane stacks and only making a mere 50k. I could triple that amount in 2 hours, easy.

Mavrik

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Alaska

11 Jan 2006 at 01:23 - 52

I'll hold onto mine until around... oh middle of the year and sell for 100k

4runner

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cali!!!

cdxx/the420th.com

Mo/N

11 Jan 2006 at 01:37 - 53

well Its cool taking a bunch of low level players from pikens or beacons perchor some low level area and helping with quest and mission, and when they die Who would be there Angel ME!! I collected about 500 cc for the soul purpose of helping out low level players have fun and understand that not all us lvl 20 Players Are Pricks!!! If you cant have fun, then why the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO play the GAME!!!! MOve on People, its those negative attitudes that has made online Gaming more fustrating than enjoyable at times!! God the oLd days when there was only 10000 peopl playing Counter Strike!!! If i could only relive my Youth!!! Have fun guys thats what its all about it!!!! FUNNNNNNN!!!!

Candy canes!! WHo cares!!!
Easter next maybe some easter eggs that give you LVL 28 Attritubes !!! Oh now that would be something to be UPset about!!!!

Cador

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Relax Its Just A [GAME]

R/E

11 Jan 2006 at 01:43 - 54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavrik

The game was bought by me for me and played by me. I don't give any concern to your enjoyment of the game since its not effecting mine. If someone with a candy cane is annoying you so much... wow, you all need some help. Having a candy cane is NOT making someone any less of a player or taking away any of their skills. Even the best die and I'm sure they wish there was a way to just make that DP vanish. Now there is for a limited time only. These items will be gone. Its a shame you never collected a pile and can't sell them like the rest. Whats the going rate? 500-100g a piece? The smart get rich is all i have to say. CC was a good idea. I rather like it.

/not agreed

Amen I mean come on guys its a simple player choice issue. you wouldnt put down someone who buys something to make THIER gaming experience better? i think this thread was a mistake no offense but all its gonna do is get ppls anger up and feelings hurt i mean come on

A)its jsut a game

B)peopel bought it so let them play it and enjoy it

C) bring peace to the middle east

Alleras -out-

Sai of Winter

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

[ale]

Mo/

11 Jan 2006 at 01:46 - 55

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4runner

Candy canes!! WHo cares!!!
Easter next maybe some easter eggs that give you LVL 28 Attritubes !!! Oh now that would be something to be UPset about!!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cador

C) bring peace to the middle east

LOL! xD

Cador

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Relax Its Just A [GAME]

R/E

11 Jan 2006 at 01:48 - 56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavrik

I'll hold onto mine until around... oh middle of the year and sell for 100k

they wont do anything for easter but i think latest we can hold onto them is until february(valentines day) because HINT HINT there might be a specialty item

The Acolyte

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Seekers of Justice ~ SoJ

12 Jan 2006 at 16:31 - 57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cador

they wont do anything for easter but i think latest we can hold onto them is until february(valentines day) because HINT HINT there might be a specialty item

...actually, I can think of some cool quests via an easter egg hunt. kind of sad Anet isn't going to do anything for easter...

guess the whole pc religious movement has forever changed how the US looks at these days.

toastgodsupreme

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

United States

Me/

12 Jan 2006 at 17:59 - 58

Bitch moan complain.

I've got about 1000 hours logged, made MANY characters, beaten the game numerous times, and enjoy pvp in CA. I still die in PvE some times. Shit happens. I like having candy canes on hand to undo that.

This is like the 4th thread I've seen today (not made, but in the recent posts listing) about candy canes. Get off it already.

Hate

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Lions Arch

13 Jan 2006 at 01:18 - 59

wouldnt know, haven't played in months

Lets Get to Healing

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

You want see?

True Gods of War [True]

Mo/W

13 Jan 2006 at 02:27 - 60

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cador

they wont do anything for easter but i think latest we can hold onto them is until february(valentines day) because HINT HINT there might be a specialty item

So ur a dev?

Order Of Thy Sword

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

C/O of Savages of Undying Legend

13 Jan 2006 at 02:28 - 61

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazyvietguy

Unfortunantly its true, usually not someones own fault but another player not doing their job. So in that respect Candy comes in handy.

I play both PvP and PvE, both are challenging in their own ways. Both require some strategy (PVP more, duh). LoL, i wouldnt flame PvEers though, if you wanna flame PvE talk to Anet, im sure they can hand you a nice closed account.
Seriously guys, Candy canes, I dont even worry about the obsession with them. I use them occasionally because of accidents and/or mstakes by other new players unknowledgeble about the game. However, i do share the annoyment of people spaming "WTS CANDY CANE 1k". For all you candy sellers, why dont you wait till someone wants to buy them, maybe then you wont spend 5 hours selling your 9, 250 each candy cane stacks and only making a mere 50k. I could triple that amount in 2 hours, easy.

So tell me guildie, when is the last time you made 150k in a day , LOL!

generik

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

13 Jan 2006 at 04:10 - 62

Quote:

Originally Posted by Order Of Thy Sword

So tell me guildie, when is the last time you made 150k in a day , LOL!

Easy, he is probably someone who stands in warcamp all day speaking in broken english "I buy rago flame staff for 20K"

And when a newbie bites, he goes around and say "I sell rago flame staff for 100K and 10 ectos"

lord pun|shment

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Team Arena's District 1

The United Nations (xUNx)

Me/N

13 Jan 2006 at 04:15 - 63

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sekkira

If 15% DP is debilitating, it's time to get a new game.

15% or 60% the point is they come in handy........no need to flame people.

but hey....we all know that all some people can do....

cheers