Coming back to GW1 because GW2...

Shyroma

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2014

Well, I'm sure enough people who have played GW1 and then GW2 can see why maybe someone would want to come back to GW1, but I'm hoping that GW1's community is still alive and well.

Part of the reason I'm coming back is because GW1 just has this feel to it... It's very Guild Wars, and I just never got that feeling with GW2. It was like something was lost in transition to the sequel. Also living story... Ugh.

Also, a huge reason I quit GW2 was because after working so hard to get to lvl 80 on my necromancer I have basically been told that the class sucks and people don't want me in their groups for dungeons. That was pretty much the last straw for me... Especially after reading up how ANet handles class balance in GW2 (short summary: they don't really handle it).

Honestly though, compared to the necromancer in GW1 and the necromancer in GW2, the necromancer does suck in GW2. I really missed having a loyal following of undead minions. GW2 necromancer was just nowhere near as cool as GW1 necromancer.

GW1 still has a ton of content I've never seen, and great quests I've yet to experience. So I'm excited to get back into it. Now hopefully the support team gets to me in less than a week so I can reset my password as I don't remember it (wish I'd known password reset required you to have the serial code as I would have kept my box if I'd known that however many years ago I got the game haha).

Once I do get in though, are there still some nice active guilds? I realize GW1 is now 9 years old but I'm hoping it's not too dead...

fadekill

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2012

Welcome back!

There are still active guilds around. Actually, most activities are organised in guilds right now, pugging is almost dead except for zaishen/bonus weeks (and maybe a few more). Kamadan/Great Temple of Balthazaar are the places where most guilds try to recruit. You can ask in populated places like that and probably find a guild.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

welcome back! Yes there is still quite a bit of interest in this game so you should have no problems finding a guild and having a wonderful time.

As for gw2, yes there are plenty of folks here who have played it and have returned as well, there are a few who play both and a bunch who have never played it (like me).

Shyroma

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2014

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Originally Posted by fadekill View Post
Welcome back!

There are still active guilds around. Actually, most activities are organised in guilds right now, pugging is almost dead except for zaishen/bonus weeks (and maybe a few more). Kamadan/Great Temple of Balthazaar are the places where most guilds try to recruit. You can ask in populated places like that and probably find a guild.
I don't think I've ever been to either of those two places. I gather Lion's Arch is no longer the popular place to gather then?

Ayuhmii Shanbwa

Ayuhmii Shanbwa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Holland

[GaMe]

Rt/

kamadan american district is the only place where you find guilds.... well, sometimes they appear in international, but then i'm alone there and they (for some reason) still recruit
even in port sledge i see them in international district..... nearly noone who doesnt do all vqs and carto's knows that place, same with other places nearly noone uses

so just go to kamadan america 1, there's enough who recruit, and also sometimes people teamup and do runs there, even when a dungeon is needed

..... seems embark beach still isnt becoming the place its supposed to be

Shyroma

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2014

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ayuhmii Shanbwa View Post
kamadan american district is the only place where you find guilds.... well, sometimes they appear in international, but then i'm alone there and they (for some reason) still recruit
even in port sledge i see them in international district..... nearly noone who doesnt do all vqs and carto's knows that place, same with other places nearly noone uses

so just go to kamadan america 1, there's enough who recruit, and also sometimes people teamup and do runs there, even when a dungeon is needed

..... seems embark beach still isnt becoming the place its supposed to be
No clue where any of these places are so will have to figure it out (I haven't played GW1 in forever so could just be my bad memory).

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

kamadan is the first real city you get to in nightfall (you complete the first mission, do a quest and that is the outpost). It is the major city in nightfall (like kaineng in factions and Lions Arch in prophecies). Embark beach may not have been around when you last played (or you may have just never gotten there), it can be reached by the scout in most major cities (and mission towns), he has an ! over his head, yet offers no quest, just transportation to embark beach---be careful with this, however, if you have not yet made it to LA (assuming you started in prophecies), you will have to find the person to take you back to your last outpost (tyrian travel npc).

Shyroma

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2014

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Originally Posted by cosyfiep View Post
kamadan is the first real city you get to in nightfall (you complete the first mission, do a quest and that is the outpost). It is the major city in nightfall (like kaineng in factions and Lions Arch in prophecies). Embark beach may not have been around when you last played (or you may have just never gotten there), it can be reached by the scout in most major cities (and mission towns), he has an ! over his head, yet offers no quest, just transportation to embark beach---be careful with this, however, if you have not yet made it to LA (assuming you started in prophecies), you will have to find the person to take you back to your last outpost (tyrian travel npc).
Alright, thank you! Still no reply from support :|

Shyroma

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2014

Well, tried resetting password with Guild Wars 2, but seems that account was hacked (no clue how an account with literally a 20 sum password with both on and off caps and numbers and letters was hacked) as the name I put in for a character I know I had doesn't work correctly (the passwords to both GW and GW2 are the same) so now waiting for more support... Seems like GW2's support is just a slow as GW's support. A person can hope, right?

Also, the fact that the password reset requires you to remember your character name when some people take breaks from games and also your account could be hacked and characters could be deleted (like it seems my case is), is one of the dumbest things ever. They should replace that with a security question honestly.

Chooty

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2014

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ayuhmii Shanbwa View Post
kamadan american district is the only place where you find guilds.... well, sometimes they appear in international, but then i'm alone there and they (for some reason) still recruit
even in port sledge i see them in international district..... nearly noone who doesnt do all vqs and carto's knows that place, same with other places nearly noone uses

so just go to kamadan america 1, there's enough who recruit, and also sometimes people teamup and do runs there, even when a dungeon is needed

..... seems embark beach still isnt becoming the place its supposed to be
Kamadan is not only place to find guilds. I've started new few months ago;
and have been getting requests from guilds daily all through pre-searing, ascalon city, etc all the way up to lion's Arch.

Ayuhmii Shanbwa

Ayuhmii Shanbwa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Holland

[GaMe]

Rt/

ok, you find MOST active guilds in kamadan, lets say its the best place then

also, alot of guilds invite anyone who has no guild, even if that person rejects a million times (i've had that.... just NOT literally a million)

and, pre searing is a pre searing community mostly, they do have people who go post searing, but also many people who also play pre sear alot

Caedis Hawthorne

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2014

W/R

after the massive disappointment that GW2 living story turned out to be I find myself going back to my roots. Good old Guild Wars. I had read on the guru that things were still active. and my hopes were high when I got pre-searing and it was fairly bustling. Now in post-searing ascalon there are 5 of us at most. My question then is this: does it get better?

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

pre has a HUGE community. Once you leave you have 4 different areas that you can go to (if you have all the chapters and eye), that leaves a LOT of places for folks to be.
That being said, there are places that you will usually find people--in prophecies Lions Arch, in nightfall there will always be people in kamadan (factions gets little love though its my favorite chapter). GToB usually has people too. Weekends will have more people than weekdays.
Many are now playing with just their heroes, though you can find active guilds too.
Hope this answers your questions and Welcome Back!

Caedis Hawthorne

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2014

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by cosyfiep View Post
pre has a HUGE community. Once you leave you have 4 different areas that you can go to (if you have all the chapters and eye), that leaves a LOT of places for folks to be.
That being said, there are places that you will usually find people--in prophecies Lions Arch, in nightfall there will always be people in kamadan (factions gets little love though its my favorite chapter). GToB usually has people too. Weekends will have more people than weekdays.
Many are now playing with just their heroes, though you can find active guilds too.
Hope this answers your questions and Welcome Back!
Thanks for the welcome this is my all time favorite mmo and I just still wanted it to linger around. It's so beautifully done it's hard not to see this game as anything but a labor of love.

Wolftail

Wolftail

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2014

E/N

Have you tried login In to gw1 with your gw2 pass?
I remember linking my gw1acc with gw2 and then my gw1 suddenly had a new pass. I fought with support and such but I the end I just had to use my gw2 pass

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

Because of this to right.


What great theme music for s game.

Zephyr of Light

Zephyr of Light

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2013

In Z-Way We Trust.

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^ Give this man a cookie, fiep!

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

Thanks my favourite is at 32:50 it gets me all pumped up for those missions.Make that 4 Starbucks peanut butter cookies.

InfiniteRetro

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2012

Mo/Me

Ive been playing some gw2 and i can enjoy it for what it is but by god i miss gw1 like you wouldnt believe. There is this magic in the game on all levels i just love. I still even have my pre-searing ranger cos i cant let go of that area.

And its not nostalgia cos the game is still 100% awesome despite the age.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

even with the huge sale they are having on gw2 (75% off--on a 2 year old game, something is NOT right)...I am still not enticed to buy it.

Bellatrixa

Bellatrixa

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2010

Under a blanket drinking tea and being British n_n

Brothers of Other Mother [BoOM]

N/

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Originally Posted by cosyfiep View Post
75% off--on a 2 year old game, something is NOT right
And the timing of the sale too (being about a month after Christmas) raised an eyebrow of mine. A cynical part of me wonders if it was to remind all those people who got banned 'Hey, you can still play GW2 instead of buying a new account on GW1 and botting again! We'll make it super cheap for you too!'.

ACWhammy

ACWhammy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2009

Texas

Gold Trim Guild [gtg]

R/

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Originally Posted by Bellatrixa View Post
And the timing of the sale too (being about a month after Christmas) raised an eyebrow of mine. A cynical part of me wonders if it was to remind all those people who got banned 'Hey, you can still play GW2 instead of buying a new account on GW1 and botting again! We'll make it super cheap for you too!'.
A lot of people are saying this. That Arenanet is banning people on GW1 so they'll play GW2. I don't see the logic in this though. "Hey, I just got banned in GW1 so I think I'll invest time in a game I do NOT like! Oh, and by the same company that left for dead the game I DO like!"

Perhaps I'm missing something here. I do find it odd that while my GW1 accounts were all banned, my GW2 linked accounts are fine.

Also you have a point - Arenanet doesn't seem to be pushing the sale of GW1 in the slightest. A few months back I had problems purchasing on the NC store and when I send in a support ticket, they were no help. I had to purchase from Steam. Then a few months later I tried purchasing something else from the NC store and had issues again, I sent in a support ticket and NO response.

I've also told them after I was banned I'd be willing to buy more GW1 accounts if they answered my support tickets. It's been 7 days no response.

So yes it seems apparent that they do NOT want to sell GW1. I don't understand. They don't want our money?

InfiniteRetro

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2012

Mo/Me

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Originally Posted by ACWhammy View Post
A lot of people are saying this. That Arenanet is banning people on GW1 so they'll play GW2. I don't see the logic in this though. "Hey, I just got banned in GW1 so I think I'll invest time in a game I do NOT like! Oh, and by the same company that left for dead the game I DO like!"

Perhaps I'm missing something here. I do find it odd that while my GW1 accounts were all banned, my GW2 linked accounts are fine.

Also you have a point - Arenanet doesn't seem to be pushing the sale of GW1 in the slightest. A few months back I had problems purchasing on the NC store and when I send in a support ticket, they were no help. I had to purchase from Steam. Then a few months later I tried purchasing something else from the NC store and had issues again, I sent in a support ticket and NO response.

I've also told them after I was banned I'd be willing to buy more GW1 accounts if they answered my support tickets. It's been 7 days no response.

So yes it seems apparent that they do NOT want to sell GW1. I don't understand. They don't want our money?
Old game is old man. But in saying that gw1 is i think the superior even to this day. I really wish they would support gw1 with more content...the game is utterly fantastic.

Enchanted Krystal

Enchanted Krystal

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2011

In a Kurzick retirement village, reminiscing about Magmas shields......

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Originally Posted by InfiniteRetro View Post
Ive been playing some gw2 and i can enjoy it for what it is but by god i miss gw1 like you wouldnt believe.
I can relate to that, fo sho.

Bellatrixa

Bellatrixa

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2010

Under a blanket drinking tea and being British n_n

Brothers of Other Mother [BoOM]

N/

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Originally Posted by ACWhammy View Post
A lot of people are saying this. That Arenanet is banning people on GW1 so they'll play GW2
No, that's not why I think the bans happened. If anything it'd turn people off buying their products. Even the timing of this sale doesn't change the reasons why I think the bans happened, just seems a way for them to try and make a bit of money off the back of the banwave. As I said in another thread, if they were banning people so they'd play GW2 and all these people were innocent (which, let's be fair, most weren't), it'd just make them not want to bother buying another NCSoft/ANet game in case they were banned unjustly again. However, I know Korean companies like to dangle carrots regardless of the actions of their players because at the end of the day, all they care about is the money. So for them, the players banned from GW1 have a 'second chance' in GW2 and they still have your money if you're willing to part with it, and some people will. Let's be honest, we know some people will keep botting/buying ectos etc because they've not realised the value of RL money (or their parents' credit card) compared to e-peen on a video game. For some people the bragging is more important and those people need to step away from the game and take a good hard look at themselves.

Regarding those who were banned unfairly, I think it sucks that ANet won't provide evidence or replies, although I guess with the amount of appealing going on that's legit and people trying to play innocent, it makes it hard for them. Not defending them, just trying to shed some perspective on things their end.

Title Points R Us

Title Points R Us

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2012

[叫己口] [五ムロ及]

D/R

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Originally Posted by Bellatrixa View Post
No, that's not why I think the bans happened. If anything it'd turn people off buying their products. Even the timing of this sale doesn't change the reasons why I think the bans happened, just seems a way for them to try and make a bit of money off the back of the banwave. As I said in another thread, if they were banning people so they'd play GW2 and all these people were innocent (which, let's be fair, most weren't), it'd just make them not want to bother buying another NCSoft/ANet game in case they were banned unjustly again. However, I know Korean companies like to dangle carrots regardless of the actions of their players because at the end of the day, all they care about is the money. So for them, the players banned from GW1 have a 'second chance' in GW2 and they still have your money if you're willing to part with it, and some people will. Let's be honest, we know some people will keep botting/buying ectos etc because they've not realised the value of RL money (or their parents' credit card) compared to e-peen on a video game. For some people the bragging is more important and those people need to step away from the game and take a good hard look at themselves.

Regarding those who were banned unfairly, I think it sucks that ANet won't provide evidence or replies, although I guess with the amount of appealing going on that's legit and people trying to play innocent, it makes it hard for them. Not defending them, just trying to shed some perspective on things their end.
Bravo! someone who thinks the same as myself. I don't know what the reasoning is yet but they really don't want peoples money concerning GW1. THey aren't getting anymore from me for 1 or 2 seeing I already purchased acc's in 2 at beta. Not sure what is up Anet's sleeve but i've been trying to call them out on it. All I get is deleted posts & threads with infraction notices lol


Oh & they won't ban the spamming gold site sellers either. so somethings up there as well. Maybe they are receiving a cut from their sales? who knows.

Bellatrixa

Bellatrixa

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2010

Under a blanket drinking tea and being British n_n

Brothers of Other Mother [BoOM]

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Originally Posted by Title Points R Us View Post
Oh & they won't ban the spamming gold site sellers either. so somethings up there as well. Maybe they are receiving a cut from their sales? who knows.
I've been pondering that one myself and all I could come up with is they think the gold sellers will just turn around and buy a new account to keep spamming so they don't see the point. But surely making them pay to advertise by banning them would be more beneficial? Would at least make it look like they don't approve of gold selling instead of having the same names selling for months on end. At least when the names change, you know they're actually banning them for advertising and it's not ok...

Memnon

Memnon

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

Sitting down and facing forward, but that's not important right now

Guilds Gone Wild [GGW] (just me really)

Me/

Been a while since I posted in here.

To be fair, I never got GW2, but I did get beck into GW1 about 3 months ago, and I'm totally reliving the magic again, and I've been playing every day since. I've re-hooked up with some old friends, and made some new ones.

I really regret ever leaving.

RVallant

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Crimson Hydras

D/E

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Originally Posted by Memnon View Post
Been a while since I posted in here.

To be fair, I never got GW2, but I did get beck into GW1 about 3 months ago, and I'm totally reliving the magic again, and I've been playing every day since. I've re-hooked up with some old friends, and made some new ones.

I really regret ever leaving.
I never got GW2 either. The changes were far too much. I do hang around the GW2 forums though, and that was even more offputting, seems everyone is a charr-sympathist and anti-humanist.

Lore seems to begoing that way too, a total curb-stomp for why humanity sucks and should be ground into fine powder while, The Searing becomes a national holiday.

Aggreviating, if I could post on the GW2 forums I'd join in that particular debate, though it's a lost cause.

Main thing about GW2 that has completely put me off is the living world concept. I won't buy into the game seeing how I've missed a full season of story apparently.

Guess they didn't learn the lessons that Square-Enix did (FF14) - because FF14 does the whole world incidents (FATE) a lot better in my opinion.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

yes, you have to wonder what their thinking....loads of the folks the are pissing off with their treatment of gw will not buy 2 for whatever price (they could give it away and I wont take it---I just cant deal with the female model they use--and that ALL casters look exactly the same even if you choose different faces/hair/etc).

I think they are just hoping to get rid of this game completely--so ban everyone, dont read ANY support tickets....and pray they will migrate? not sure who was smokin' what if that was what they came up with.

Smoke Nightvogue

Smoke Nightvogue

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Moscow, Russia.

Random Ascalon Fools, Soldiers of Thunderstorm.

R/Mo

I'm sorry, but isn't such view way-too one-sided if you haven't taken the opportunity to explore the game personally, and then base your judgments upon what you've seen?

Besides, they do reply to the tickets, I assure you! =) Unless it's about that "we didn't bot at all" carol.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

I cant 'explore' the game...it blue screened on me in beta (and my computer is NOT that old)....I have no desire to buy a game that requires me to buy a new computer to play--and I have read the wikis, the guru as well as the 'official' forums...and the armors are hideous! the characters (female human) ALL look the same and the movement, makes me ill watching....no, no desire to play a game where all the women look like fat bottom girls wearing clown costumes....wont even comment on the other races, but lets just say my comments on humans are the best ones I have.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Nevermind all that, the simple fact that they lock skill bars to equipment and have an attrition-based combat system with no dedicated prot+heal profession nor counters to it nor counters to the counters and so on means GW2 will never, ever be a good Guild Wars game.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

there are sooooo many reasons that gw2 fails on soooo many levels. We could post for weeks and not hit them all. BUT there are folks that seem to like that kind of game (for whatever reason), so .....its making money (people also bought windows 8--so I rest my case).

But we need to make sure we are not making a bash gw2 thread....just giving reasons why we are back playing guildwars (the ORIGINAL ).

InfiniteRetro

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2012

Mo/Me

Having frequented many forums on gw2 since i gave gw2 another go i have one thing to declare...gw1 fans are leagues above the quality of the zealot and nearly fanatical nature of some of the gw2 fanbase.

And...its hard but im struggling after loving gw1 to find that comfort level in gw2...you know that feeling you get with a game where you feel at home?

Why is this?

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

I wouldn't say GW2 is bad game it just isn't GW.

Veldan

Veldan

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2010

R/D

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Originally Posted by InfiniteRetro View Post
Having frequented many forums on gw2 since i gave gw2 another go i have one thing to declare...gw1 fans are leagues above the quality of the zealot and nearly fanatical nature of some of the gw2 fanbase.

And...its hard but im struggling after loving gw1 to find that comfort level in gw2...you know that feeling you get with a game where you feel at home?

Why is this?
I think a large part of feeling at home in an online game is the social aspect. GW2 does not exactly do much to create that feeling. Big guilds, multi guild system, megaserver technology and zergs where barely anyone speaks in both PvE and WvW... it makes you feel anonymous. You are just +1 person in the masses.

Now in all honesty it's been a while since I played GW2, but during the time where I played intensively, this was always my experience.

It's also hard these days to find an MMO that's different. The social aspect of these games got worse across the board, and only few developers seem to be interested in fixing it. One of those few could be this one. I don't know much about that game, but there is a thread on their forums about socialization that was started by their devs/CMs. So they actually recognize the problem and care about it, which is a start.

But yeah, I often think about GW and the things it did right to make such a nice community. I think the grouping, trading, guild halls and GvG were all part of making it so nice.

For example, many modern games have Auction House or Broker systems instead of direct trade. But let's be honest: if GW had this, and nobody would trade in Kamdan (or Lion's Arch before), the main towns would probably be dead by now. That would be pretty bad for the game and the "alive" feeling of it.

You can pretty much come up with a reasoning like this for every modern MMO system. Whether it's trade systems, grouping tools or megaservers... they all are aimed at convenience, but they greatly reduced player interaction and the "alive" feeling of the game world. As a result you don't feel "home" as much as you did in older games.

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

I know another game that really brings the players together xxI.