Important Note : The event has ended but you are still able to get Balthazar weaponry outside the Great Temple of Balthazar at the vendors near the Zaishen Chest.
You can acquire a Blessings of War token after every 25 subsequent Zaishen Chest openings, with the Zaishen Key as well as the 5 proofs of Legends traded to the ancient weapons npc in embark beach.
Update - Monday, April 23, 2015
Fixed a bug that caused Balthazar set Rods, Shields and Focuses to not accept some upgrade items.
For more information : http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Feedb...dates/20150422
GW 10th Anniversary Discussion Thread.
Zephyr of Light
Ayuhmii Shanbwa
wow, i made an own topic and anniversary party for myself cuz of that
and then see your topic here, haha
i agree that its a disappointment, so making my own little party
walking through proph with its music, and with healers only, so i do the work, and enjoy the view
and then see your topic here, haha
i agree that its a disappointment, so making my own little party
walking through proph with its music, and with healers only, so i do the work, and enjoy the view
Nekodesu
My thoughts on this is that I saw it coming. Actually I had my hopes super low. I was hoping for a sale in their store. That was it. I wasn't even hoping for any celebration etc. Every year people are surprised that they don't give a shit, it's been like 2 years+. We should all be used to the game being left to die now.
Zephyr of Light
I felt this was about to happen too, but its the kind of milestone you would not expect them to drop the ball marketing-wise and the GW2 community could benefit from aswell with their own party in their own worldspace..
Its like giving you're girlfriend on your 10th year anniversary a coupon for a local bar'n'grill that has expired v_v
Its like giving you're girlfriend on your 10th year anniversary a coupon for a local bar'n'grill that has expired v_v
Nekodesu
Yes it is, and it sucks. I think it's a big shame, honestly. I wish that they cared enough, but honestly I feel like there must be some kind of reason they wont interact with their Guild Wars players, wont answer questions, wont update(besides emergency updates), it's like someone a little higher up told them absolutely no work on GW or the players is allowed anymore. Or, quite simply, the guy running ANet now thinks GW is a shitstain and he just wants to get it off.
Ayuhmii Shanbwa
well, i dont think its the same this time, as its the 10th anniversary, and even anet could've been nice enough THIS TIME to give us at least something
hell, let all event drops drop with 4x drop rate, its only once in 10 years
and why dont you people stop saying stuff like "left to die"? cuz the game isnt dying, for every person i see leave GW, i see 10 new ones coming, and most of them stay
sure, its not as populated as years ago, but is a person who gets 8000 euro (i live in europe) a month poor, only cuz there's people with way higher income? (at least where i live)
anyway, i'm just gonna enjoy my time and make the best of it
the game is far from dying with newbies who join, and people who return from their nightmare called GW2
hell, let all event drops drop with 4x drop rate, its only once in 10 years
and why dont you people stop saying stuff like "left to die"? cuz the game isnt dying, for every person i see leave GW, i see 10 new ones coming, and most of them stay
sure, its not as populated as years ago, but is a person who gets 8000 euro (i live in europe) a month poor, only cuz there's people with way higher income? (at least where i live)
anyway, i'm just gonna enjoy my time and make the best of it
the game is far from dying with newbies who join, and people who return from their nightmare called GW2
Schmerdro
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Its like giving [your] girlfriend on your 10th year anniversary a coupon for a local bar'n'grill that has expired v_v
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As was already said, nobody should have been surprised by this.
cosyfiep
not surprised at all. and still disappointed at their lack of caring---they COULD do something to get people wanting to play (and those that have not yet BUY), but they dropped that ball too.
They could have had something like the farewell to Gaile (heck that code is still around, a few minor tweaks and they could have just injected that).
I was hoping for new birthday gift cards--so you could get some of the rare minipets (not the birthday ones) (and make them non-transferable, one time only etc...like the tormented weapons for the wayfair).
but NOOOOO, we get the same s*&$ different year (kinda like opening the same christmas gifts every year, gee thanks I already had those, oh because these are the ones from last year that you just wrapped up again, that explains it-----)
Shame anet, shame.
They could have had something like the farewell to Gaile (heck that code is still around, a few minor tweaks and they could have just injected that).
I was hoping for new birthday gift cards--so you could get some of the rare minipets (not the birthday ones) (and make them non-transferable, one time only etc...like the tormented weapons for the wayfair).
but NOOOOO, we get the same s*&$ different year (kinda like opening the same christmas gifts every year, gee thanks I already had those, oh because these are the ones from last year that you just wrapped up again, that explains it-----)
Shame anet, shame.
Surge goes pre
Yesssssss no Kanaxai, IG, Pandas from yr 10 bday gifts it sounds like. Thank you anet <3
Zahr Dalsk
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Yesssssss no Kanaxai, IG, Pandas from yr 10 bday gifts it sounds like. Thank you anet <3
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Surge goes pre
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How's that a good thing?
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Zephyr of Light
Well, if they made those untradeable like the mini Legionnaire, it would make the cooler minis better accessible for the "mainstream" people. (Hint : great move to get more people to play gw, which shud be their goal)
That does not have to be a bad thing, because now only the 1% is able to get their hands on them, leaving the rest of the people only to watch them walk on a distance.
(only 1 kanaxai is for sale atm, two others at their owner)
Would it ruin their value?, yes it will.
Would it have dramatic effects?, no, because only 1% of the people have only one (or two) of those mini's that average people rarely get too see anyway.
Edit : it would have a far less of an impact too the market like Shadow Form did too Ecto's post 2007, even to this day and many "nerfs" later.
That does not have to be a bad thing, because now only the 1% is able to get their hands on them, leaving the rest of the people only to watch them walk on a distance.
(only 1 kanaxai is for sale atm, two others at their owner)
Would it ruin their value?, yes it will.
Would it have dramatic effects?, no, because only 1% of the people have only one (or two) of those mini's that average people rarely get too see anyway.
Edit : it would have a far less of an impact too the market like Shadow Form did too Ecto's post 2007, even to this day and many "nerfs" later.
MaxBorken
I'm surprised that people expected anything more than a cursory nod from Anet for the game's 10th.
Have people lost the ability to read between the lines?
What reason would there be from a business perspective to do anything?
Max
Have people lost the ability to read between the lines?
What reason would there be from a business perspective to do anything?
Max
Surge goes pre
By that logic though, anet should give everyone customized crystalline swords and voltaic spears and magmas shields too. Why stop at mini pets? Let's do rare skin weapons too because maybe then more people will play.
But really, my point in posting was just that it's ok for 0.01% of the items in gw to be unattainable. 99.99% of them are. It gives people goals and motivation. I'd bet the average gw player would benefit much more from year 10 bday gifts containing enough sweets to Max sweet tooth or 1 million luxon/kurzick points, or 2500 tournament RPs so they can get a trim, etc, than they would from some minipet that is customized to them.
Anyways. I do hope anet does something cute for year 10 but I'm not holding my breath. I just hope it doesn't destroy the value of the last 3 rare things in gw. That's all.
But really, my point in posting was just that it's ok for 0.01% of the items in gw to be unattainable. 99.99% of them are. It gives people goals and motivation. I'd bet the average gw player would benefit much more from year 10 bday gifts containing enough sweets to Max sweet tooth or 1 million luxon/kurzick points, or 2500 tournament RPs so they can get a trim, etc, than they would from some minipet that is customized to them.
Anyways. I do hope anet does something cute for year 10 but I'm not holding my breath. I just hope it doesn't destroy the value of the last 3 rare things in gw. That's all.
Lord Asakurra
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By that logic though, anet should give everyone customized crystalline swords and voltaic spears and magmas shields too. Why stop at mini pets? Let's do rare skin weapons too because maybe then more people will play.
But really, my point in posting was just that it's ok for 0.01% of the items in gw to be unattainable. 99.99% of them are. It gives people goals and motivation. I'd bet the average gw player would benefit much more from year 10 bday gifts containing enough sweets to Max sweet tooth or 1 million luxon/kurzick points, or 2500 tournament RPs so they can get a trim, etc, than they would from some minipet that is customized to them. Anyways. I do hope anet does something cute for year 10 but I'm not holding my breath. I just hope it doesn't destroy the value of the last 3 rare things in gw. That's all. |
Smoke Nightvogue
I like how you're discussing "elitism" in a 10 (in fact, 13) years old game... Reminds me of 2k15 "PvP'ers" who have jumped in at the 2009 PvP downfall, and yet think they grasped something well, except for starting 5+ windows of alts... 
As for the suggestions presented here, the problem about most of them is that they're way too complicated. I'd personally choose something like Pink Day in LA as design template if we came to the idea of modifying item contents on the traders (that is, introducing only a single additional item per NPC).
As for the suggestions presented here, the problem about most of them is that they're way too complicated. I'd personally choose something like Pink Day in LA as design template if we came to the idea of modifying item contents on the traders (that is, introducing only a single additional item per NPC).
cosyfiep
geez sorry I even brought it up (though there are like 2 pandas still ingame? the rest are on banned accounts??? so what real harm would it do--the economy was jacked years ago--not that they care about that anymore anyways-------).
I just thought it would be nice to give something special to those of us who have been around long enough to remember when there was just prophecies----------
and yeah, I have a better chance of being elected president of the usa than we do of seeing something 'new' for the 10th year (and bytheway--I am old enough to be president and was born in the usa so I could run and be elected
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I just thought it would be nice to give something special to those of us who have been around long enough to remember when there was just prophecies----------
and yeah, I have a better chance of being elected president of the usa than we do of seeing something 'new' for the 10th year (and bytheway--I am old enough to be president and was born in the usa so I could run and be elected
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Zephyr of Light
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By that logic though, anet should give everyone customized crystalline swords and voltaic spears and magmas shields too. Why stop at mini pets? Let's do rare skin weapons too because maybe then more people will play.
But really, my point in posting was just that it's ok for 0.01% of the items in gw to be unattainable. 99.99% of them are. It gives people goals and motivation. I'd bet the average gw player would benefit much more from year 10 bday gifts containing enough sweets to Max sweet tooth or 1 million luxon/kurzick points, or 2500 tournament RPs so they can get a trim, etc, than they would from some minipet that is customized to them. Anyways. I do hope anet does something cute for year 10 but I'm not holding my breath. I just hope it doesn't destroy the value of the last 3 rare things in gw. That's all. |
But still atleast something unique like a new skin, as they did with Wintersday weapons, and Wayfarers Reverie minipet and tonic.
This along with what you said of things people find more useable to use, would be far more of a thank you too us then we get now dont you agree?
Surge goes pre
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Alright these 3 minis would not be viable for this because they already are there with the value it carries.
But still atleast something unique like a new skin, as they did with Wintersday weapons, and Wayfarers Reverie minipet and tonic. This along with what you said of things people find more useable to use, would be far more of a thank you too us then we get now dont you agree? |
And cosy, yeah it sucks that most of them are gone. But they were rare back in 2007 too. Sure there may have been 40x as many of them around, but there were probably 40x as many players too. There were ~200 pandas and now there is roughly 5 - so a factor of 40 less is how i came up with those numbers. So roughly the same per gw player.
Zahr Dalsk
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By that logic though, anet should give everyone customized crystalline swords and voltaic spears and magmas shields too. Why stop at mini pets? Let's do rare skin weapons too because maybe then more people will play.
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Mini Kanaxai:
Available to asian players through a tournament that's now gone. Available to winners of two art contests years ago. Not available through ingame play; never was for non-asians.
Mini Island Guardian:
More exclusives only to asian players (noticing a bit of a racist trend here, ArenaNet!) and through more contests. Not available through ingame play; never was for non-asians.
Mini Panda:
Yet another mini that was only available to asian players and contests that were not even part of ingame play.
So no, the logic doesn't hold through from one case to the other. The extremely rare minis you want to keep rare so much were not acquired through playing the game but through winning one-time contests, or living in Japan or the Republic of China. I don't know about you but I consider that a very poorly chosen way to introduce an item to the game.
Surge goes pre
Edit: deleted my post. This discussion doesn't need to be had here.
Smoke Nightvogue
Returning back to the initial post: the problem, when it comes to a project which is as old as the original Guild Wars, is that basically, you're getting what you've asked / or didn't ask for (and if you didn't, you're obviously not gonna get it).
In my opinion, discussing the minis distribution while knowing that half of the previously-available PvP areas can hardly be considered functional, is a little bit out of place, at least until these things get fixed, freeing up some space for cosmetic changes.
Still, it's interesting to find out what most of us want, or otherwise.
In my opinion, discussing the minis distribution while knowing that half of the previously-available PvP areas can hardly be considered functional, is a little bit out of place, at least until these things get fixed, freeing up some space for cosmetic changes.
Still, it's interesting to find out what most of us want, or otherwise.
cosyfiep
I think we are thinking of things that can be easily done, not things that will take a major overhaul to get done --implementing the minis is easy since they are already ingame and just need to be put out there again, fixing pvp stuff, well no idea what that would encompass, though it would be nice if they made some of the pvp only weapons skins available!
Smoke Nightvogue
Fixing the PvP stuff would mean re-enabling the Heroes at it, and then, bettering the existing mechanics of the regular (non-AT) GvG, CA, AB, JQ & FA by allowing up to 6 Heroes within the regular GvGs, up to 3 per party in CA & AB, as well as setting up something similar for FA (probably 2 parties with up to 3 Heroes in each) & JQ (last time I checked, my thought was that it requires a solution close to 4 groups of 2 players with the ability to substitute every second participant with a Hero, though it could be the same as for FA, too).
There's no thing which would help ArenaNet to attract an extra GW1 auditory better than a properly-operational game, which many of its fans could stream, participate in tournaments for, and so on...
As for your idea of making the PvP skins available in PvE, I'm not sure they've still got enough staff members responsible for the project to do both items design & titles localization, despite the fact I see nothing wrong with this kind of proposals personally.
There's no thing which would help ArenaNet to attract an extra GW1 auditory better than a properly-operational game, which many of its fans could stream, participate in tournaments for, and so on...
As for your idea of making the PvP skins available in PvE, I'm not sure they've still got enough staff members responsible for the project to do both items design & titles localization, despite the fact I see nothing wrong with this kind of proposals personally.
Surge goes pre
I have a solution for pvp: remove it all. The only people that do HA are syncers. The only people that do Codex are syncers. Like 10 people play RA and the rest sync. And with gvg like 1 guild is even legit now, it's mostly syncers and rupt bots.
Just remove it all. It's all dead and being cheated at.
Just remove it all. It's all dead and being cheated at.
MaxBorken
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I have a solution for pvp: remove it all. The only people that do HA are syncers. The only people that do Codex are syncers. Like 10 people play RA and the rest sync. And with gvg like 1 guild is even legit now, it's mostly syncers and rupt bots.
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Max
Pleikki
I dont have my hopes up for anything. Someting they did back in day even again would be great like the size changes gender changes what ever.
But if i could wish for anything. Id want em to re release anything nerfed or limited back in gw to everyones access!
Stop the elitism! Then left rare would be leaved only the actually rare items that still could be dropped and accessed by everyone! (Ie. some q8 items!)
But if i could wish for anything. Id want em to re release anything nerfed or limited back in gw to everyones access!
Stop the elitism! Then left rare would be leaved only the actually rare items that still could be dropped and accessed by everyone! (Ie. some q8 items!)
Zephyr of Light
Pvp is dead and we all know it, but closing it down as anniversary gift would most likely not be recieved well too the community.
Neither i want too ask for the impossible that with their capacity would be undoable within a weeks time.
I dont have my hopes up that they even remotely look at this thread or listen too their community speaking up at them.
Although for the sake of why we would still be around year after year (insert personal reason here), is because (i)we have a silent hope for something too happen while we suppress our expectations that wont be harmed if once again they come up with a bowl full of nothingness.
We basicly say now that since we dont expect anything, it would be okay for them too come up with nothing once again, because it "always" has been that way, which is very wrong.
And you see what happens now, they shove up a dragons festival in our *** because we allow them too do so.
What can we do, let it rest?
Or demand something that should be worth even the slightest time investment we gave them.
Neither i want too ask for the impossible that with their capacity would be undoable within a weeks time.
I dont have my hopes up that they even remotely look at this thread or listen too their community speaking up at them.
Although for the sake of why we would still be around year after year (insert personal reason here), is because (i)we have a silent hope for something too happen while we suppress our expectations that wont be harmed if once again they come up with a bowl full of nothingness.
We basicly say now that since we dont expect anything, it would be okay for them too come up with nothing once again, because it "always" has been that way, which is very wrong.
And you see what happens now, they shove up a dragons festival in our *** because we allow them too do so.
What can we do, let it rest?
Or demand something that should be worth even the slightest time investment we gave them.
Smoke Nightvogue
So, PvE is the only right and truly legit thing to stick with, despite the existence of botting websites? Thanks, I had a good laugh for the rest of the day.
Zephyr of Light
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So, PvE is the only right and truly legit thing to stick with, , despite the existence of botting websites? Thanks, I had a good laugh for the rest of the day
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Its not about PvE nor about PvP.
Its about Anets interest doing something for the players (and anyone between those lines of "playing") too do something nice for us.
Thats the reason of this thread, and not a stage for you to shimmer through you're "suspicious" activities because you aparantly have nothing left too care about.
I know people and friends who went that way and thats their own choice, just dont come here with a IDGAF attitude because you simply dont have you're best interest for other people regarding this event.
I dont this only for myself you know.
MaxBorken
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So, PvE is the only right and truly legit thing to stick with, despite the existence of botting websites? Thanks, I had a good laugh for the rest of the day.
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What about that site is 'the only right and truly legit thing to stick with'? It's a breeding ground for cheaters. Where do you think certain players got the bots for synching so they always have a stock of 20,000 z-keys, or a selection of crystalline swords constantly available? PvP is the reason the botters keep going. Bin it now, I say. It's got a terminal disease.
Max
Smoke Nightvogue
It's turning even funnier now, reading all this in reply to what was written for Surge, in a rather abstracted (notice the absence of his nickname) way... well, I don't know what to say, except that someone could try to lower the degree of the local virtual reality perception, starting with realization that if something gets added after one's post, it's not necessarily addressed to that poster.
P.S. The only thing I meant is that both PvP and PvE are absolutely equal in terms of how seriously the negative factors of unfair play affected them, Max. And still, it's not granting green lights for the removal of any of the existing in-game features, even if Surge's point was an actual opinion and not some kind of sarcastic note, backed up by an understanding such things will never happen.
P.S. The only thing I meant is that both PvP and PvE are absolutely equal in terms of how seriously the negative factors of unfair play affected them, Max. And still, it's not granting green lights for the removal of any of the existing in-game features, even if Surge's point was an actual opinion and not some kind of sarcastic note, backed up by an understanding such things will never happen.
cosyfiep
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Pvp is dead and we all know it, but closing it down as anniversary gift would most likely not be recieved well too the community.
Neither i want too ask for the impossible that with their capacity would be undoable within a weeks time. I dont have my hopes up that they even remotely look at this thread or listen too their community speaking up at them. Although for the sake of why we would still be around year after year (insert personal reason here), is because (i)we have a silent hope for something too happen while we suppress our expectations that wont be harmed if once again they come up with a bowl full of nothingness. We basicly say now that since we dont expect anything, it would be okay for them too come up with nothing once again, because it "always" has been that way, which is very wrong. And you see what happens now, they shove up a dragons festival in our *** because we allow them too do so. What can we do, let it rest? Or demand something that should be worth even the slightest time investment we gave them. |
yes, we have been complacent for too long, but they dont even hear us any longer either...(hence the basic total removal of anything remotely called support). I think they just hope that we all decide to quit so they can shut this down (remember our last big thread we kept pointing at this being a reason to stop doing x y or z for the game?)
Would be nice if they really did something more than fix a bug or two for us. Fixing pvp would be nice, fixing pve would be nice too. Doing something for either would be great (though the other folks would complain, but....). Doing nothing, well, thats just a big ole slap in the .....face
Zephyr of Light
On this note i'd like too request the help of anyone that has access too the guildwars 2 forums too bring up this matter to their attention.
Its unacceptable towards the community that when they give a "party" only GW2 benefits from it with new content, skins and mini events.
While their first game who made this happen in the first gets rejected without any presents given too him.
He gets the cake from last year. #Logic
Its unacceptable towards the community that when they give a "party" only GW2 benefits from it with new content, skins and mini events.
While their first game who made this happen in the first gets rejected without any presents given too him.
He gets the cake from last year. #Logic
jayson
I was hoping to see a few things added for the 10th anniversary considering it's a pretty big deal imo.
Something to do with Nightfall and the whereabouts of Evennia, updates that were planned but not completed and anything else along those lines. Even one of those would've been nice. I stopped playing about a month or so ago now and figured I might start up again if there was something small to play for during the 10th. Guess I'll just stay away for now.
Something to do with Nightfall and the whereabouts of Evennia, updates that were planned but not completed and anything else along those lines. Even one of those would've been nice. I stopped playing about a month or so ago now and figured I might start up again if there was something small to play for during the 10th. Guess I'll just stay away for now.
Ayuhmii Shanbwa
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it would be nice if they made some of the pvp only weapons skins available!
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and maybe something like all event drops and triple the drop rate, or something like that
maybe also all week events in 1
GW will be 10 years old only once!!!
lemming
GvG is pretty fun.
Zahr Dalsk
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I have a solution for pvp: remove it all. The only people that do HA are syncers. The only people that do Codex are syncers. Like 10 people play RA and the rest sync. And with gvg like 1 guild is even legit now, it's mostly syncers and rupt bots.
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PvP was at its best when people played it for the sake of combat, knowing they would get no real reward (well, Balthazar faction, but that was really just to facilitate more combat). HA always had problems with tryhards who couldn't tolerate the possibility of experimentation or (gasp!) failure because it would mean missing the chest and delaying their fancy emote. Ditch it all. Ditch the rewards, ditch the titles, ditch the fancy emotes.
And then maybe make it free to play. Done.
K A O S Theory
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I have a better idea, just REMOVE THE REWARDS from it.
PvP was at its best when people played it for the sake of combat, knowing they would get no real reward (well, Balthazar faction, but that was really just to facilitate more combat). HA always had problems with tryhards who couldn't tolerate the possibility of experimentation or (gasp!) failure because it would mean missing the chest and delaying their fancy emote. Ditch it all. Ditch the rewards, ditch the titles, ditch the fancy emotes. |
i would /agree to this... if arena-net wanted to put any sort of effort in coding out some major titles that kinda account for the 3 point pvp achievement, plus multiple honor statues in Hall of Monuments which will kinda throw off the balance of their account linkage rewards of their precious gw2 baby :/
anyone in a family knows you never hurt teh baby, and you gotta make sure it sees that everything is bright and sunny, just gotta make sure it doesn't see that papa gw1 has a major meth addiction and needs some rehab...
Smoke Nightvogue
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On this note i'd like too request the help of anyone that has access too the guildwars 2 forums too bring up this matter to their attention.
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GvG is pretty fun.
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I have a better idea, just REMOVE THE REWARDS from it.
PvP was at its best when people played it for the sake of combat, knowing they would get no real reward (well, Balthazar faction, but that was really just to facilitate more combat). |
As for the second kind, these are the people who have joined Guild Wars during or after the global exodus of PvP players from the project and its competitive quality decline. These are the ones who would constantly sync by running packs of alts, play almost every day, and in the end, year after, pretend they possess the actual skills to be considered, let's say, rank 13. Some of you said that these people destroyed the oldschool PvP... well, to me, it's a very objectionable statement, as if there weren't sync players like Theo or Warehouse around, we wouldn't have had the last autumn's updates. Despite the lack of skill and totally dishonest play, they were the driving factor for me to actually try to improve the situation by discussing it with the staff of ArenaNet. So you see, we ended up with some kind of paradox, that cheaters (syncers) are one of the main factors of why PvP gets actually fixed for normal players. I wouldn't judge if it's good or bad, I simply have noted how it is.