Goodbye Gw1 Guru

Pleikki

Pleikki

WTB q8 15^50 Weapons!

Join Date: Nov 2006

???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

Everyone reading the notice probably seen the sad news about the site, Im glad we can continue the community on gw2guru.

But i made this post so id hear the thoughs of ppl about this, and what memories you would like to save from this site, images, contests, guides?

For me atleast gw1guru and its community had huge inpact for my gaming, i dont know how i wouldve done without the site xD

I'll personally try save some of the images in here, especially on traders outpost.

-Pleikki

wind fire and ice

wind fire and ice

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2008

There

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Goodbye GW guru. Totally didn't expect this.

I hope the wayback machine and other archiving sites do a good job of preserving images for a while so we can collect them and not lose GW history.

Maybe we should use this thread to make a comprehensive list of threads that currently have a significant number of images still live? The banner says threads can be moved over...

Shasgaliel

Shasgaliel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2008

[bomb]

Those are very sad news. I think threads with builds and lore forum would be the ones to be moved. However due to the lack of activity there I highly doubt it will happen. I will miss this site very much. I hope it is not just about a domain name otherwise that would be a shame to lose this site due to such reason.

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Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

I would never play off Occupy Wall St. for my guild name

We Are the 1 Percent

Me/

WhAt?!?!?

Is there going to be like a dedicated gw1 section? There isn't one now... Why would I post about gw1 in a gw2 section?

When I click the only link that looks gw1 related it takes me here.

Magentis

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2013

Germany

[Grrl]

W/Rt

Well, that kinda sucks...
Makes GW1 look more and more dead imo

At least we get the chance to continue doing stuff in the gw2guru forum... Would be pretty hard (for me) if they would not allow that. Not many gw1 forums/marketplaces left anymore (besides that one german, where I'm currently banned xd)

at least it doesnt go offline completly
@surge Guess it will be somewhere here: http://www.guildwars2guru.com/forum/...ht-guild-wars/

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Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

I would never play off Occupy Wall St. for my guild name

We Are the 1 Percent

Me/

When I click that link it says I don't have permission to see it. And sorry we couldn't find this.

Magentis

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2013

Germany

[Grrl]

W/Rt

Yeah guess they will open that forum when they shut down gw1guru

MaxBorken

MaxBorken

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2009

London UK

Teh Academy [PhD]. Officer. Gentleman

W/N

We need a meeting with the current gw1 guru mods to try and preserve as much as we can into a dedicated section on gw2guru then.

Nobody panic. Let's find out what we can do, what we need Curse to do, what we need the mods to do etc etc.

In the meantime, grab your screenshots, make sure you have all the data you need to recreate as much as we can over there, and be as prepared as we can be.

Max

Zephyr of Light

Zephyr of Light

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2013

In Z-Way We Trust.

[PhD]-[?????????]-[pupu]

Farewell Guru, been lurking ever since 2007 on here for what people had to sell, and only joined since 2013.

With the Collection Thread by Pleikki i'v got too meet amazing people and friends over the years that have helped me guide my collection too what it is today.
Without them, and their network I wouldn't be the person i'm today.

I'm also very glad that i'v been allowed like many, too post my hero setups in which prominently Z-Way was a great addition for the for people that without a doubt I never expected too become this huge.

I'll definenately will continue my postings there, and too close this post.
I'd like too thank all the guru moderators over the years that have done a fantastic job maintaining the rules and peace throughout the website, I know I sometimes poked the stick in the beginning against it, but i'm glad to have been part of this original website community.
(Sorry Cosyfiep, I know all you had was good intent.)

Wish you all the best, and those who come over, i'll see you on the other side.

- Zephyr

MaxBorken

MaxBorken

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2009

London UK

Teh Academy [PhD]. Officer. Gentleman

W/N

Mods.... Any chance of a wholesale transfer of everything into our own section?

Tyran Hellcaster

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

----

Mo/W

Dear owner of GWguru,

Thanks for your efforts of making available to us this forum.

But, closing the forum and making a GW1 subsection in the GW2 forum would not be desirable:

1) The gwguru forums are an important part of the essence of Guild Wars.

2) There is a reason that we play GW1 instead of GW2. To us, GW2 failed to meet expectations as it is a totally different game. It is asking a bit much of us to use the GW2 forums as it has a different look, does not have the old posts, and it is for GW2 (people).

3) Is the reason you are closing this down because upkeep costs are weighing you down? At least allow us to crowdfund a continuation of this forum.

We need to be able to continue using this forum.

Yours,

An avid gw1 fan

Dot Rotten

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2009

UK

W/

Really is unfortunate considering this site is a major hub for a lot of things, especially trading. I hope data can be transferred!

wind fire and ice

wind fire and ice

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2008

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In response to Hellcaster & as a continuation -

I would contribute to a crowd funding or buyout of GW guru if the structure allows for such a thing. I think this site is important enough to the GW community that many of us would hold on for a long time, even if there's a financial burden involved. I think it's more fair to let the community decide when we're ready to let this site go.

I also understand, though, that with this being a Curse site the mechanics are likely more complicated than simply paying a certain amount of money per month, and that it may now be too late to do anything about this.

We need to collectively figure out what our options are and figure out if we need to start prioritizing threads for transfer///creating our own alternative website as soon as possible if GW2 guru isn't an acceptable future for us.

trademeimfamous

trademeimfamous

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2014

Blashyrkh

IGN: Erd Beer Mund

R/

kinda sad, a lot of history would be lost

on a side note, i would not have expected wartower to outlast guru

MaxBorken

MaxBorken

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2009

London UK

Teh Academy [PhD]. Officer. Gentleman

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by trademeimfamous View Post
kinda sad, a lot of history would be lost

on a side note, i would not have expected wartower to outlast guru
It's German. Built to last

In the meantime, if we have nowhere to go, there is always the Facebook group while we try and arrange an alternative. We don't have to be homeless, even temporarily.

GhostKairi

GhostKairi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2008

WTB Q8 Fire/ES Staffs And OS Crystallines!

Teh Academy [PhD] - Tomb of the collectors

E/

This is very sad indeed, but not unexpected. Guild Wars is very very old now and with a sequel, it doesnt make much sense to keep spending money on a game that only attracts the most dedicated fans anymore.

numma_cway

numma_cway

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2008

Kirchlinteln, NDS, Germany

Me/Rt

This is completely retarded. Why shut down GWGuru? Why? Aren't there people who can host it? There will be tons!

I know what I'm talking about, I'm an admin of the German GuildWiki and when the contract with our last hoster ended, we had quite some people who wanted to host it. For free and without ads of course (I'm seeing a 12 on Ghostery and an 8 on AdBlock right now).
And if you mods are just too lazy to do your job, ask some people! I'm sure there will be people for that, too.

So there are absolutely no reasons to shut down GWGuru, except for intervention by Curse. Guess that's why there's no reason given in the announcement.

And why the hell would anyone create a forum von GW2 site? Why not on a WoW site or something? People who still play GW have a reason to do so: GW2.


/Edit: I sometimes ask myself "How retarded can things be?". Then I just start GW2.

/Edit2:
Quote:
Originally Posted by GhostKairi View Post
This is very sad indeed, but not unexpected. Guild Wars is very very old now and with a sequel, it doesnt make much sense to keep spending money on a game that only attracts the most dedicated fans anymore.
What sequel? I haven't heard of any so far.

Gentleman Xander

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2013

the Netherlands

Me/

My heart just stopped, my back just started bleeding... I've been stabbed in the back
It's sad to see they are shutting gwguru down... Anyway I think the most important thing to keep is The Beloved Collections thread since all of the ancient relics and collected items have been posted there.

R.I.P. my beloved gwguru. I'll see you soon!

C4RB1N3

C4RB1N3

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Looking For One.

Mo/

I always knew this day would come, but I could never really prepare for it.

What is the reason for the shut down, and can it be remedied?

If not, I will just bid farewell and attempt to embrace the winds of change.

StueyG

StueyG

Kamaspama

Join Date: Dec 2005

Nunya Bizness

pupu / SLAP

W/

I got on GW2Guru long ago, posted a few times and never went back. There really isn't a dedicated GW section as some have noted. Probably will be the end of Guru for me.

Appreciate all the good times and good friends on here. I know the mods and other helpers put in a lot of time and effort for no pay. Just to help. Thanks for all those that have done so over the years. Nice work.


-StueyG

MaxBorken

MaxBorken

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2009

London UK

Teh Academy [PhD]. Officer. Gentleman

W/N

Never say never ....

It won't take much to add a GW section for us on the gw2 forums. And as both sites are hosted by Curse (I think?) there should be no issues with intellectual property rights. They could even assimilate gwguru as a sub section of the gw2 forums...

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Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

I would never play off Occupy Wall St. for my guild name

We Are the 1 Percent

Me/

I'm in Stuey's boat. If there becomes a dedicated gw1 section there that looks like this, I'll move over there. But as of what I've seen today, when guru shuts down I'll probably not be a guru-er anymore. Assuming gw2guru stays looking how it does now.

It's been a good run. I suppose this means my collection is basically done.

Thanks for the good run everyone. I'll still be around in game of course.

expugnare

expugnare

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Houston, TX

The Academy [PhD]

E/A

This is awful.

Truly awful. Does this mean my PMs to old friends are gone? Collection thread?

GW has on and off been part of my life since I was in high school. A majority of that was facilitated by this website.

I doubt I'll be going to Gw2guru. It's just not the same.

I'm sad, friends.

Yuko

Zephyr of Light

Zephyr of Light

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2013

In Z-Way We Trust.

[PhD]-[?????????]-[pupu]

I'd like too say that, whoever I dont have on Facebook yet (got a few!) and u'd still like to remain in touch, just send me a private message so I can share my details.

RIP Community

MaxBorken

MaxBorken

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2009

London UK

Teh Academy [PhD]. Officer. Gentleman

W/N

Where are the gwguru mods?

They're fast enough when someone bumps to close a thread, but can't reply to this thread?

They do a great job, and deserve a reward, but where are they now when we need clarity?
I do hope they haven't been told to keep quiet....

Lynie

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2011

Somalia

\//\

Mo/A

What a crazy move by curse, take offline the more active website to put it as "subsection" on the smaller website Also have a look at the amount of guests compared to registered users.
EDIT: on top of that, most of the "guests" on gw2 guru are probably GW guru users checking out the website..

wind fire and ice

wind fire and ice

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2008

There

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxBorken View Post
Where are the gwguru mods?

They're fast enough when someone bumps to close a thread, but can't reply to this thread?

They do a great job, and deserve a reward, but where are they now when we need clarity?
I do hope they haven't been told to keep quiet....
I would like to think the silence indicates that there is some flexibility in what is happening and they have to think/deliberate before speaking.

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

Being on the other side of the world to the US, I haven't been available when the announcement was made. Will answer any questions you have as best I can. Throwing this post together just to let you know I'm here. I'm sure there are things worth posting about that aren't coming to mind.

To clarify, Kvinna is the only Curse affiliated person on the mod team. She's the one that knows the in's and out's of what's going on. Everyone else is purely a volunteer and so cannot answer anything about those sort of things unless they've been explained to us previously. We're in the same boat as you, just a few months in advance.

-We've had the chance to move things over (still working on this myself) but there isn't a good way to do it. There will be no direct porting of content from here to there. It's all just copy+paste. Anything you want to archive needs to be done manually, so get on it. If I've reposted something from you that you want to do yourself, just let me know. If there's something I can help with in some way, also let me know.

-As mentioned earlier in the thread, wayback machine can be used to potentially dig up broken images.

-For whatever reason, Curse is having issues with the email server. Email notifications for PMs aren't being sent. If there's someone you want to contact about this that doesn't visit Guru often a PM won't be a particularly effective means of getting their attention.

-There is a specific Guru1 section on Guru2. Presumably it ought to be available now. If it's working for some people but not others, bug Kvinna.

Ayuhmii Shanbwa

Ayuhmii Shanbwa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Holland

[GaMe]

Rt/

even though i got a bad name here before (for giving my opinions and trying to make sense with english not as my native language and my brains not functioning well, so i sometimes use the wrong words and such), this still is the only GW1 site left (in english)

bah...... now i gotta just use GW and thats it

i know i gave up making suggestions here, but i still can use the PM system and trade section very well, and sometimes answer newbie questions

well..... farewell GWguru, just like GWOnline became GW2online, which is why i left
i already play GW less cuz there's nearly noone who can live with my problems in RL (so i cant play the game very well) in the game, and now this last hope is gone

well, i hope i'll get some better times in GW now...... goodbye
ps. i dont use GW2 sites and i dont wanna use facebook to have contact with people i dont know in RL (with very few exceptions)

Coast

Coast

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

Belgium

Whats Going On [sup]

Mo/

can't one of you nerds just copy everything from here and make a new forum with all the shit from here on it?

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Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

I would never play off Occupy Wall St. for my guild name

We Are the 1 Percent

Me/

Coast! I choose you!

Yeah wouldn't it be easy to just make a new forum site? They did that with presearing.com when it went out.

tooburns

tooburns

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

u know where my spot is !

Teh Academy [PhD]. Officer.

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade View Post

-We've had the chance to move things over (still working on this myself) but there isn't a good way to do it. There will be no direct porting of content from here to there. It's all just copy+paste. Anything you want to archive needs to be done manually, so get on it.
Basiccaly they wont give anyone the database with the forum history to anyone to host somewhere else ? so its all lost and have to start all over again.
I can understand from a buisness point of view that they dont want to manage that part for X ou Y reason. But to not give a chance to people who would like to take over is sad.

I would still like to know why we cant just move it to a private side ?. We have one month to get it done. It's more then enough ive seen thing way bigger then that done over a week-end.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by tooburns View Post
Basiccaly they wont give anyone the database with the forum history to anyone to host somewhere else ? so its all lost and have to start all over again.
I can understand from a buisness point of view that they dont want to manage that part for X ou Y reason. But to not give a chance to people who would like to take over is sad.

I would still like to know why we cant just move it to a private side ?. We have one month to get it done. It's more then enough ive seen thing way bigger then that done over a week-end.
go for it...(and less than one month...ASSume the 1st of june and hope for later).

tooburns

tooburns

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

u know where my spot is !

Teh Academy [PhD]. Officer.

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by cosyfiep View Post
go for it...(and less than one month...ASSume the 1st of june and hope for later).
Not sure if you are playing but ill ASSume that you can be help full in that situation. Help find a contact who will awnser question. name, email or phone

Frank Castle

Frank Castle

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2016

Lions Arch

Ex-United States Marine Corps [USMC]

W/

The history that will be lost with the closure of this site saddens me deeply....

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by tooburns View Post
Not sure if you are playing but ill ASSume that you can be help full in that situation. Help find a contact who will awnser question. name, email or phone
not even close--I know nobody and the caps was about the timeline here, I am only a simple moderator and you have as much information as I do now.
I would help setting up, and modding if need be (and I would assume that the last offer would be refused anyways).

StueyG

StueyG

Kamaspama

Join Date: Dec 2005

Nunya Bizness

pupu / SLAP

W/

Modding has always been a thankless job. There has always been people that complained about the mods, and usually because they are the ones causing most of the issues.

I think you do just fine cosyfiep. Thank you for putting in the time and effort with no pay.

Peace

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

I cant believe they are closing GWGuru :@

10 years on this site and its sad to leave.

MaxBorken

MaxBorken

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2009

London UK

Teh Academy [PhD]. Officer. Gentleman

W/N

Let's wait and see what Curse (the host) is going to do. The announcement at the top of guru talks of making our threads over there. Currently there is no section on gw2guru for this, but they may be in he process of implementing this. Panic and knee-jerk reactions would be disastrous. The last thing this community needs are hundreds of independent little forums, each claiming to be our saviour, but in reality getting no site traffic, and woeful security.

Now is the time to assess what our options realistically are, not making a bunch of fan-sites that are doomed to fail. We need a strategy, not heroes.

Max

wind fire and ice

wind fire and ice

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2008

There

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxBorken View Post
Now is the time to assess what our options realistically are, not making a bunch of fan-sites that are doomed to fail. We need a strategy, not heroes.

Max
While I agree with the spirit of this, unless Curse is very welcoming and makes us a place that really feels like home on the GW2 site, we're on a very limited time limit to figure out our options and I think we should at least consider having another fan site be our answer. A little corner on another game's website may not be the forum we want to let the GW community end on.

We don't need a bunch of other sites, but we very well might need one so we aren't at the mercy of Curse, who clearly don't care very much. And I mean that respectfully - I totally understand, we're playing a game from 2005 and Curse has a lot to manage. Guild Wars isn't a mainstream game any more, and it may be time for the remaining community to create our own home.

Our future, whatever it may be, needs to be stable. We need to find a solution that will give us dignity and never be closed without the community deciding on it.