Hey, this is a simple stance build I came up with for farming Griffons, etc, in Augury. I posted as a reply to another Griffon farming thread but there were no responses after that.
It's really simple but after trying LOTS of w/mo skill combos, I think this is the most efficient and is what I've used for weeks now.
Here's a link to the video:
http://files.filefront.com/insidious.../fileinfo.html
It's ~10 min to clear all Griffons (except Monk boss)It could've been shorter, but I killed the first group of Minotaurs. You need the Divx codec to watch.
Skills:
1. Cyclone Axe
2. Executioner's Strike
3. Desperation Blow
4. Gladiator's Defense
5. Shield Stance
6. Bonetti's Defense
7. Healing Sig
8. Dolyak Sig
Tactics: 14, Strength: 12-14, Axe: 11-13
Like I said, simple build, possibly noobish(?), but damn efficient. It's better than all warrior farmers I've watched, and everyone I've shown in game is amazed, so I just wanted to share it...
Comments please... ?
All Warrior Augury Farming Build
insidious420
Sk8tborderx
10 minutes is a long time, I can solo all the griffons and minos then go to elona and solo the minos at beginning, then solo trolls outside of droks in about 15-20 minutes. If you are soloing just griffons it should take 5-7 minutes max or it's just not worth it.
dont feel no pain
emm it seems all good but realy your missing out on the bonus from a 2nd proffesion warrior/ranger warrior/monk warrior/ele
warrior/r = u can drop eoe while your fighting (not they wont attack it) and then when they drop they drop much faster.
warrior/monk = well bonus enchatments , vigerous spirit is a great bonus , or mabye balthzars spirit, watchful spirit , mending , live vicaously.
warrior ele = well i can think of a few nice bonuses , conjure lughtning/flame bonus for the cyclone axes , mabye a aftershocks and crytal waves every now and again.
warrior/r = u can drop eoe while your fighting (not they wont attack it) and then when they drop they drop much faster.
warrior/monk = well bonus enchatments , vigerous spirit is a great bonus , or mabye balthzars spirit, watchful spirit , mending , live vicaously.
warrior ele = well i can think of a few nice bonuses , conjure lughtning/flame bonus for the cyclone axes , mabye a aftershocks and crytal waves every now and again.
insidious420
Would you mind posting your build just for curiosity's sake?
I'd be interested to see what you do differently to shave a few minutes off.
Honestly, out of everything I've tried, it just seems like a waste to me to pour any points into secondary stats (for Monk skills anyways). For trolls this won't work, but for Griffon's it does.
dont feel no pain: yea I thought of using EoE, but wasn't sure if the att pts vs dmg it does would be worth any tradeoff.. i'll have to give it a shot, thanks
I'd be interested to see what you do differently to shave a few minutes off.
Honestly, out of everything I've tried, it just seems like a waste to me to pour any points into secondary stats (for Monk skills anyways). For trolls this won't work, but for Griffon's it does.
dont feel no pain: yea I thought of using EoE, but wasn't sure if the att pts vs dmg it does would be worth any tradeoff.. i'll have to give it a shot, thanks
olydog
Here is my build for griffons/mountain trolls/tundra giants..etc..
Gladiators defense
Riposte
Deadly riposte
bonnetis defense
sprint
healing sig
mending
Balthazars aura
Or if you want an alternate Ele build that works ok...
Gladiators defense
Riposte
Deadly riposte
bonnetis defense
Sprint
Armor of earth
After shock or Stone daggers
healing sig
Attributes for first build 16 tactics 8 healing prayers rest in sword
Attributes in second build 12 in earth 16 in tactics...thats it.
I can easily clear desert griffons in Elona reach..and moutain trolls...tundra giants...all port sledge monsters.
Gladiators defense
Riposte
Deadly riposte
bonnetis defense
sprint
healing sig
mending
Balthazars aura
Or if you want an alternate Ele build that works ok...
Gladiators defense
Riposte
Deadly riposte
bonnetis defense
Sprint
Armor of earth
After shock or Stone daggers
healing sig
Attributes for first build 16 tactics 8 healing prayers rest in sword
Attributes in second build 12 in earth 16 in tactics...thats it.
I can easily clear desert griffons in Elona reach..and moutain trolls...tundra giants...all port sledge monsters.
Sk8tborderx
The build I use is this:
Attributes-
Healing-8
Strength-13 +3 from runes
Tactics-16 +3 from runes and +1 from helm
Shield/sword-
Malinons shield and collectors sword with +15% while enchanted with barbed hilt and +5 armor
Armor-
Full gladiators armor with ascalon helm
Skills-
Riposte
Deadly riposte
Gladiators defense
Watch yourself
Dolyak signet
Healing breeze
Mending
Balthazars spirit
This build works for griffons/minotaurs/trolls/tundra giants/hydras.
Attributes-
Healing-8
Strength-13 +3 from runes
Tactics-16 +3 from runes and +1 from helm
Shield/sword-
Malinons shield and collectors sword with +15% while enchanted with barbed hilt and +5 armor
Armor-
Full gladiators armor with ascalon helm
Skills-
Riposte
Deadly riposte
Gladiators defense
Watch yourself
Dolyak signet
Healing breeze
Mending
Balthazars spirit
This build works for griffons/minotaurs/trolls/tundra giants/hydras.
Yolanda Kai
Sk8borderx how long does it take to do the run with that? I'm always a bit skeptical of builds with no reqs towards the weapon 
I've had a similar build in progress for a couple days, all I'm missing is 11 levels and a shield 
I've had a similar build in progress for a couple days, all I'm missing is 11 levels and a shield
Sk8tborderx
A full run for me is all the griffons and minos in prophets path, the minos at beginning of elona mission, and the trolls outside of droks. The full run takes about 20 minutes for me and I make 6-7k.
Battle Torn
how do you make movies of your game?
Ill post a screenie of my build when I get home, but I would also like to compare time=mob ratios between builds and think a movie would be best to do this.
Ill post a screenie of my build when I get home, but I would also like to compare time=mob ratios between builds and think a movie would be best to do this.
funbun
Quote:
Originally Posted by Battle Torn
how do you make movies of your game?
Ill post a screenie of my build when I get home, but I would also like to compare time=mob ratios between builds and think a movie would be best to do this. Pease do. i would like to see what you're using.
Ill post a screenie of my build when I get home, but I would also like to compare time=mob ratios between builds and think a movie would be best to do this. Pease do. i would like to see what you're using.
4runner
i use this one trolls,griffons,mino etc,
16axe
10strenght
10tactics
1cyclone
2executioners
3.disrupting
4.bonetties
5.watch ur self
6.doylak
7.glads
8.healing sig
About 7-10 for griffons and minos, if doing then all 4+groups timing becomes very important!! But very exciting!! HEHe
Oh credit were credit is due, Racthoh and Dont feel no pain for the build to farm just about anything!!! You Guys Rock!!!
16axe
10strenght
10tactics
1cyclone
2executioners
3.disrupting
4.bonetties
5.watch ur self
6.doylak
7.glads
8.healing sig
About 7-10 for griffons and minos, if doing then all 4+groups timing becomes very important!! But very exciting!! HEHe
Oh credit were credit is due, Racthoh and Dont feel no pain for the build to farm just about anything!!! You Guys Rock!!!
dimirpaw
I'm trying your build right now insidious420 i'll post back on how good it was.
insidious420
I guess what I should've said in the first post is the reason I use this build is because out of everything I already had tried (Monk: Strength of Honor, Mending, Vigorous Spirit, Mending, etc.; Ranger: Apply Poison; Ele: Whirlwind, Crystal Wave, Conjure X element, etc...), this build seems to be the easiest to maintain energy-wise and healing-wise and with almost any equipment & runes, as long as Tactics is relatively high.
From my experience, I think this is quicker than any build I tried with secondary damage or enchants. I also didnt like relying on Vigorous Spirit for healing because the amount of att. points it takes to get reliable enough healing to replace Healing Sig seemed unreasonable to me.
The vid is 9:24mins long, but I believe it is the max Griffon spawn you can get (~20) with plenty of Minos & Rockshoots thrown in. I just wanted to show it's easily possible to maintain yourself in as large a group of enemies you can gather while needing minimal healing skills or expensive secondary attack skills without sacrificing primary warrior atts.
BTW, I like the sword builds that use Riposte/Deadly Riposte as the main attacks & defense with Tactics maxed & no points in Swordsmanshiip, that's pretty creative.
Just my 2 cents Thanks for all the feedback.
From my experience, I think this is quicker than any build I tried with secondary damage or enchants. I also didnt like relying on Vigorous Spirit for healing because the amount of att. points it takes to get reliable enough healing to replace Healing Sig seemed unreasonable to me.
The vid is 9:24mins long, but I believe it is the max Griffon spawn you can get (~20) with plenty of Minos & Rockshoots thrown in. I just wanted to show it's easily possible to maintain yourself in as large a group of enemies you can gather while needing minimal healing skills or expensive secondary attack skills without sacrificing primary warrior atts.
BTW, I like the sword builds that use Riposte/Deadly Riposte as the main attacks & defense with Tactics maxed & no points in Swordsmanshiip, that's pretty creative.
Just my 2 cents
Thanks for all the feedback.
Young Hero
Why do you need Dolyak sig to farm griffs/minos , they don't knock you down.
sprint
glads D
Vig Spirit
Cyclone Axe
Bonnitties
Drop dolyak unless yer going after Hydras or Giants
sprint
glads D
Vig Spirit
Cyclone Axe
Bonnitties
Drop dolyak unless yer going after Hydras or Giants
insidious420
Dolyak Sig gives a lot of extra armor which is good for hits that leak through stances, plus you normally get knocked down after using Desperation Blow, Dolyak Sig prevents that. With high Tactics, DB gives lots of damage & a random condition.
dimirpaw
Your build really didn't do me too good, I can farm and live till there all nearly dead then they all nail me and im dead... Oh well.
insidious420
You can't let your stances down and you can't let health drop below 50% because Griffons use Final Thrust which will wipe you out fast.
dimirpaw
I kept them all up, and when my HP was going down I used the Signet to heal up and while doing that Bang they hit me and I died...
I'm using Desert Collectors Armor (80 armor 20+armor (Physical Attacks)) and a 85 Plate Helm.
I tried this with my 6-28 Vampric Chaos Axe because of the +2 health a hit, and +4 armor, -1 hp regen. Then I tried a Normal Chaos Axe 6-26 +20 hp. Didn't do me too good.
What runes are you using? I got a Major Tactics one so my health right now is 470 or something, maybe thats why.
I'm using Desert Collectors Armor (80 armor 20+armor (Physical Attacks)) and a 85 Plate Helm.
I tried this with my 6-28 Vampric Chaos Axe because of the +2 health a hit, and +4 armor, -1 hp regen. Then I tried a Normal Chaos Axe 6-26 +20 hp. Didn't do me too good.
What runes are you using? I got a Major Tactics one so my health right now is 470 or something, maybe thats why.
insidious420
I have a Sup Axe & Major Tactics rune, my HP is around 400 I think. As long as you only heal while Dolyak Sig is up & while you're in a Stance, you should be fine. Unless Rockshoots are interupting you, always try to kill Rockshoots first if they are in the group you're trying to kill.
dimirpaw
Ok I'll get those 2, and post back on if I doing good or not.
Ultimate Warrior
My build is:
cyclone axe
gladiators defense
bonnetis defence
mending
live vicariously
watch yourself
executioners
and one more axe skill that you like
11 healing, 10 tactics, 12 axe, and 4 strength
If you know how to use the build right, it works very good and fast.
Oh yeah my runes are minor strength, minor axe, minor tactice, major abspor, and major vig.
cyclone axe
gladiators defense
bonnetis defence
mending
live vicariously
watch yourself
executioners
and one more axe skill that you like
11 healing, 10 tactics, 12 axe, and 4 strength
If you know how to use the build right, it works very good and fast.
Oh yeah my runes are minor strength, minor axe, minor tactice, major abspor, and major vig.
dimirpaw
insidious420 I tried again and did very well, just those rockshots can mess you up bad.
Heres is my screeny! :O Only got 2 groups on me since there where rocks back so..
Heres is my screeny! :O Only got 2 groups on me since there where rocks back so..
Murder In China
^ You seem to be missing a Knight's/Ascalon armor which helps lots with an additional -2 damage reduction.
Me NoFat
This is all you need and it is fast. This is not my build...but I have tried them all when it comes to griff/minos farming.
Healing: 10
Str: over 10
Tactics: over 10
Axe: Get a req 9 and meet that req
Mix whatever runes you want to achive the above.
Heal Sig
Cyclone Axe
Spring (can be replaced with axe skill)
Disrupting Chop (for the monk boss...can be replaced)
Bon. Def
Glads Def
Live Vic
Mending
You will never have a health problem. The mending will be +3 and with the Healing Attrib at 10 you will get +10 per hit from Live Vic. on cyclone axe which is like 80 or so health when farming griffons. If you need more health then use your sig while glads is up.
Most of you damage comes from Glads Def so have it up whenever it is charged. You will get extra damage from cyclone if you meet your weapons req but that is not needed. When not using glads spam cyclone and Bons Def. In a large group Bon Def is recharged instantly after each cyclone. The key is to always have a stance up and make sure you go into a fight with at least 5 energy.
You will never run out of energy when fighting. Bons Def fills up your energy so fast your head spins.
I only do the griffon portion of the farming run at the Rock now because it is much faster then porting over to finish off the minos. If I want to kill minos I just go to Elonas. It takes me about 5-7 min for a griffon run at the Rock and about 5 min for a minos run at Elonas
Healing: 10
Str: over 10
Tactics: over 10
Axe: Get a req 9 and meet that req
Mix whatever runes you want to achive the above.
Heal Sig
Cyclone Axe
Spring (can be replaced with axe skill)
Disrupting Chop (for the monk boss...can be replaced)
Bon. Def
Glads Def
Live Vic
Mending
You will never have a health problem. The mending will be +3 and with the Healing Attrib at 10 you will get +10 per hit from Live Vic. on cyclone axe which is like 80 or so health when farming griffons. If you need more health then use your sig while glads is up.
Most of you damage comes from Glads Def so have it up whenever it is charged. You will get extra damage from cyclone if you meet your weapons req but that is not needed. When not using glads spam cyclone and Bons Def. In a large group Bon Def is recharged instantly after each cyclone. The key is to always have a stance up and make sure you go into a fight with at least 5 energy.
You will never run out of energy when fighting. Bons Def fills up your energy so fast your head spins.
I only do the griffon portion of the farming run at the Rock now because it is much faster then porting over to finish off the minos. If I want to kill minos I just go to Elonas. It takes me about 5-7 min for a griffon run at the Rock and about 5 min for a minos run at Elonas
Dyzfunctioned
12+1+1 Tactics
12+3 Strength
Flurry
Deadly Riposte
Dolyak Signet
Riposte
Victory is Mine!
Healing Signet
Watch Yourself!
[Skill of Choice]
Zealous Sword of Defense..
+45/2 Stance Shield
Owns Trolls, Hydras, Griffons, whatever...
Warrior not relying on secondary is the shit.
12+3 Strength
Flurry
Deadly Riposte
Dolyak Signet
Riposte
Victory is Mine!
Healing Signet
Watch Yourself!
[Skill of Choice]
Zealous Sword of Defense..
+45/2 Stance Shield
Owns Trolls, Hydras, Griffons, whatever...
Warrior not relying on secondary is the shit.
Me NoFat
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dyzfunctioned
Flurry
Deadly Riposte
Dolyak Signet
Riposte
Victory is Mine!
Healing Signet
Watch Yourself!
[Skill of Choice]
Warrior not relying on secondary is the shit. Want to know what makes that build better?
[Skill of Choice] = Secondary
Listen people....Guildwars Gods gave us Secondary Professions so we could use them. I could care less what your secondary is just use it. If you have 1/2 a brain you will know that what I speak here is simply the truth.
Dyzfunctioned <----That name says it all. A W only build is almost always Dyzfunctioned. I know that sounds personal but I don't intend to insult you just shake the hell out of you and everyone else until they understand that you have secondary skills for a reason.
Sk8tborderx
Quote:
Originally Posted by Young Hero
Why do you need Dolyak sig to farm griffs/minos , they don't knock you down.
I use dolyak becuase I wanted to come up with a build that did not rely on stances. Also, with dolyak and watch yourself up I take no damage from regular attacks. The most damage I take with both up that I have seen is 30 and that is from final thrust when I was below 50% health. I can solo with my build at 180 health, I tried it with stances and would take too many hits. Keep in mind that I am using a sword and my elite is glads defense so I am not going to get enough adrenaline to be in a stance at all times.
Battle Torn
I still cant find a good way to make movies of a griffon run... so maybe if you post your IGN or look out for me we can go griffon farming and size up each others build? Ive done this before, one player just has to die and watch the other for a run, its much better than posting. Im only interested in finding out the best build but am still waiting for someone to show me a better build than what I use already, but Im always on the lookout for something new or an improvement, or even to compare between secondary classes.
Give me a whisper and post your IGN
Give me a whisper and post your IGN
stool_cannon
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sk8tborderx
10 minutes is a long time, I can solo all the griffons and minos then go to elona and solo the minos at beginning, then solo trolls outside of droks in about 15-20 minutes. If you are soloing just griffons it should take 5-7 minutes max or it's just not worth it.
I call BS, Pm me in game and prove it. I couldn't do it that fast with my pre-patch invincimonk.
Yakumo
Re: All Warrior Augury Farming Build
My team mate and I were curious about this and he modified the build from the opening post for me to try. The changes took into consideration that I had only arrived in the desert a couple of nights ago, I have no elite skills, not done the 15 attribute quests, and not planning to change armor (e.g to Gladiators/Ascalon).
Here's the set up.
Lvl 20 W/N... Health 471... Energy 20.
Armor: Ringmail from jungle collectors (AL: 71)
Sword: Furious Long Sword of Shelter (Dmg: 13-19) - modded sword reward from Villainy of Galrath quest
Shield: Aegis (AL: 16 with -1 damage reduction while hexed)
Attributes:
Strength = 13 (+2 rune)
Swordsmanship = 6 (+1 rune)
Tactics = 13 (+1 rune, +1 helmet)
Skills:
1. Riposte
2. Deadly Riposte
3. Endure Pain
4. "Watch Yourself!"
5. Shield Stance
6. Bonetti's Defense / Power Attack
7. Healing Sig
8. Dolyak Sig
All the skills are defensive with 2 offering offensive abilities as well. The fights are usually quite long as the main damage is coming from Riposte and Deadly Riposte, each doing around 50. Not as quick or effective as other builds but I can easily hold my ground against 3-4 Griffons/Minotaurs, 5 is OK-ish, anymore and it can get a bit franctic to not good! I might tweak it and drop Swordsmanship for more Tactics and see how that goes. I'll not meet the min req. for the sword, but it's only there to build adrenaline.
It's not quick, but workable. Farming quickly was not the reason for this, it was to satisfy our curiosity, for fun and for a challenge. The drops are just a bonus. Also, I have read a number of farming builds and most seemed to require at least an elite/high attributes/good armor or weapon/etc and I wondered whether it was doable without these. Now I know, it's doable, but just slow.
My team mate and I were curious about this and he modified the build from the opening post for me to try. The changes took into consideration that I had only arrived in the desert a couple of nights ago, I have no elite skills, not done the 15 attribute quests, and not planning to change armor (e.g to Gladiators/Ascalon).
Here's the set up.
Lvl 20 W/N... Health 471... Energy 20.
Armor: Ringmail from jungle collectors (AL: 71)
Sword: Furious Long Sword of Shelter (Dmg: 13-19) - modded sword reward from Villainy of Galrath quest
Shield: Aegis (AL: 16 with -1 damage reduction while hexed)
Attributes:
Strength = 13 (+2 rune)
Swordsmanship = 6 (+1 rune)
Tactics = 13 (+1 rune, +1 helmet)
Skills:
1. Riposte
2. Deadly Riposte
3. Endure Pain
4. "Watch Yourself!"
5. Shield Stance
6. Bonetti's Defense / Power Attack
7. Healing Sig
8. Dolyak Sig
All the skills are defensive with 2 offering offensive abilities as well. The fights are usually quite long as the main damage is coming from Riposte and Deadly Riposte, each doing around 50. Not as quick or effective as other builds but I can easily hold my ground against 3-4 Griffons/Minotaurs, 5 is OK-ish, anymore and it can get a bit franctic to not good! I might tweak it and drop Swordsmanship for more Tactics and see how that goes. I'll not meet the min req. for the sword, but it's only there to build adrenaline.
It's not quick, but workable. Farming quickly was not the reason for this, it was to satisfy our curiosity, for fun and for a challenge. The drops are just a bonus. Also, I have read a number of farming builds and most seemed to require at least an elite/high attributes/good armor or weapon/etc and I wondered whether it was doable without these. Now I know, it's doable, but just slow.
Battle Torn
here is a screenie of my build in action
Xenrath
This thread's kind of meandering all over the place lol anyway, to the guy who thinks it's not possible to farm the griffons in a few mins (pre patch) here's an old video
http://files.filefront.com/PumpkinFa.../fileinfo.html
Done that one around the Mad King (aka Halloween) event. About 3 mins from start to finish. I also had a different build which could kill the whole lot in about 2min30-ish. Of course it probably takes longer now post AOE patch, and different skills from the one in the video; I dunno, I stopped with that boring stuff after I had enough money for armour upgrades
http://files.filefront.com/PumpkinFa.../fileinfo.html
Done that one around the Mad King (aka Halloween) event. About 3 mins from start to finish. I also had a different build which could kill the whole lot in about 2min30-ish. Of course it probably takes longer now post AOE patch, and different skills from the one in the video; I dunno, I stopped with that boring stuff after I had enough money for armour upgrades
Battle Torn
yeh its tougher now.. glads def is prob best elite to have now..slower but still good enough for me
Young Hero
Quote:
Originally Posted by dimirpaw
insidious420 I tried again and did very well, just those rockshots can mess you up bad.
Heres is my screeny! :O Only got 2 groups on me since there where rocks back so.. Remember the more you aggro the higher you're health will stay as long as Vig is kept alive.This Glads-Vig-Cyclone-Bon build is frigging addictive and so easy that I wonder if Cyclone will be nerfed to only hit 2 to 3 at a time
Heres is my screeny! :O Only got 2 groups on me since there where rocks back so.. Remember the more you aggro the higher you're health will stay as long as Vig is kept alive.This Glads-Vig-Cyclone-Bon build is frigging addictive and so easy that I wonder if Cyclone will be nerfed to only hit 2 to 3 at a time
iamchris
Hm, I found this a little while back, this guy seems to have no trouble at all..
http://rapidshare.de/files/10684475/...rming.wmv.html
Another link:
http://files.filefront.com/A_walk_in.../fileinfo.html
http://rapidshare.de/files/10684475/...rming.wmv.html
Another link:
http://files.filefront.com/A_walk_in.../fileinfo.html
Young Hero
My weapons of choice
Axe helm
Glads chest,legs,feet
Knights gauntlets ,all dyed black-minos have been generous with at least 10 black drops.
Axe helm
Glads chest,legs,feet
Knights gauntlets ,all dyed black-minos have been generous with at least 10 black drops.
Dyzfunctioned
Quote:
Originally Posted by Me NoFat
Want to know what makes that build better?
[Skill of Choice] = Secondary
Listen people....Guildwars Gods gave us Secondary Professions so we could use them. I could care less what your secondary is just use it. If you have 1/2 a brain you will know that what I speak here is simply the truth.
Dyzfunctioned <----That name says it all. A W only build is almost always Dyzfunctioned. I know that sounds personal but I don't intend to insult you just shake the hell out of you and everyone else until they understand that you have secondary skills for a reason. Wow... Not denying secondary professions are nice (I use a secondary for every other farming technique), but to flame my build because it's warrior only, when the thread was intended to be warrior only (read the title ^_^). Also, say you are a W/Me... How does the secondary help you, at all? Personally I'd rather have an Endure Pain or To the Limit! than any mesmer skill other than Phsyical or Ele Resistance, which would then be useless with Flurry.
Do you see Racthoh getting flamed for doing FoW With no secondary skills? Some people like to be able to utilize the warrior aspect to the fullest, as with Lambda's Perdition build.
Also, throwing in an insult based on a name... Sad. Sorry if you didn't like my build, but it's no reason to criticize my build, without any constructive comments, due to having no secondary, when several builds are W/X. Also, nothing personal, but you might want to try a dictionary sometimes, as neither Dyzfunctioned or Dysfunctioned are words... I believe the term you were looking for would be Dysfunctional
[Skill of Choice] = Secondary
Listen people....Guildwars Gods gave us Secondary Professions so we could use them. I could care less what your secondary is just use it. If you have 1/2 a brain you will know that what I speak here is simply the truth.
Dyzfunctioned <----That name says it all. A W only build is almost always Dyzfunctioned. I know that sounds personal but I don't intend to insult you just shake the hell out of you and everyone else until they understand that you have secondary skills for a reason. Wow... Not denying secondary professions are nice (I use a secondary for every other farming technique), but to flame my build because it's warrior only, when the thread was intended to be warrior only (read the title ^_^). Also, say you are a W/Me... How does the secondary help you, at all? Personally I'd rather have an Endure Pain or To the Limit! than any mesmer skill other than Phsyical or Ele Resistance, which would then be useless with Flurry.
Do you see Racthoh getting flamed for doing FoW With no secondary skills? Some people like to be able to utilize the warrior aspect to the fullest, as with Lambda's Perdition build.
Also, throwing in an insult based on a name... Sad. Sorry if you didn't like my build, but it's no reason to criticize my build, without any constructive comments, due to having no secondary, when several builds are W/X. Also, nothing personal, but you might want to try a dictionary sometimes, as neither Dyzfunctioned or Dysfunctioned are words... I believe the term you were looking for would be Dysfunctional
Me NoFat
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dyzfunctioned
Quote: Originally Posted by Dyzfunctioned Dyzfunctioned or Dysfunctioned are words... I believe the term you were looking for would be Dysfunctional As far as the dictionary goes I was making fun of your name not trying to spell.
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Also, say you are a W/Me... How does the secondary help you, at all?
If you read my early post I included all the reasons to use a secondary. If you want a good reason to have a mes secondary try something like this:
Str: Above 10
Tactics: Above 10
Axe: Meet Req
Nice thing is you need nothing in mes attribs to get 30 seconds of +40 armor and the full effect of Epidemic and Phantom.
Heal Sig
Physical Resistance **edit removed Live Vic (monk skill)
Cyclone Axe
Glads Def
Bon Def
Epedimic
Phantom Pain
Axe Twist
The idea here is to use epedimic to transfer conditions then use Phantom of Pain to cause Deep Wound and Axe Twist to cause Weakness and physical resistance whenever fighting lower #'s and bons def is not charging fast enough. The only problem is healing but you shouldn't be taking much damage.
Now all the griffons have a Deep Wound and Weakness for the next 10-20 seconds. The rest of the build is normal. I am not sure this will work I am just thinking on the fly about a good reason to use it. If this doesn't work then I am sure with some debate here and some thought there are reasons to use mes secondary to farm.
Str: Above 10
Tactics: Above 10
Axe: Meet Req
Nice thing is you need nothing in mes attribs to get 30 seconds of +40 armor and the full effect of Epidemic and Phantom.
Heal Sig
Physical Resistance **edit removed Live Vic (monk skill)
Cyclone Axe
Glads Def
Bon Def
Epedimic
Phantom Pain
Axe Twist
The idea here is to use epedimic to transfer conditions then use Phantom of Pain to cause Deep Wound and Axe Twist to cause Weakness and physical resistance whenever fighting lower #'s and bons def is not charging fast enough. The only problem is healing but you shouldn't be taking much damage.
Now all the griffons have a Deep Wound and Weakness for the next 10-20 seconds. The rest of the build is normal. I am not sure this will work I am just thinking on the fly about a good reason to use it. If this doesn't work then I am sure with some debate here and some thought there are reasons to use mes secondary to farm.
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Originally Posted by Dyzfunctioned
Do you see Racthoh getting flamed for doing FoW With no secondary skills?
The reason I flamed your post is because unlike Racthoh the W build that you and the OP posted can be improved with secondary skills. The build Racthoh put together cannot be improved for what it is used for by any secondary skills. Over 99% of the time seconday skills are there to help you out. All I am saying is use them to be more effective. There is no W only build that can kill minos or griffons faster then a W/X build.
Dyzfunctioned
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Originally Posted by Me NoFat
Agreed and you have my apology.
As far as the dictionary goes I was making fun of your name not trying to spell. If you read my early post I included all the reasons to use a secondary. If you want a good reason to have a mes secondary try something like this: Heal Sig Live Vic Cyclone Axe Glads Def Bon Def Epedimic Phantom Pain Axe Twist The idea here is to use epedimic to transfer conditions then use Phantom of Pain to cause Deep Wound and Axe Twist to cause Weakness. Now all the griffons have a Deep Wound and Weakness for the next 10-20 seconds. The rest of the build is normal. I am not sure this will work I am just thinking on the fly about a good reason to use it. If this doesn't work then I am sure with some debate here and some thought there are reasons to use mes secondary to farm. The reason I flamed your post is because unlike Racthoh the W build that you and the OP posted can be improved with secondary skills. The build Racthoh put together cannot be improved for what it is used for by any secondary skills. Over 99% of the time seconday skills are there to help you out. All I am saying is use them to be more effective. There is no W only build that can kill minos or griffons faster then a W/X build. Apology accepted :P And I make no point to say W/X is better Than W/ with Secondary. Also, you used Warrior, Monk, and Mesmer classes in that build :P
Knido
for the most tedious killing ever, use a Glimmering mark / riposte build using a shocking sword and watch 20 griffs and minos get blind and swing like drunkards :P
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