Man, Unidentified things SUCK!

Guild Wars Junkie

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

The Stompers.

R/Mo

I really really hate my greeeeeed. Every other day I have to spend 60k worth of unid weapons, and they all suck! I just bought 2 req 7 swords, 3 req 8 swords for 65k, and they all turned out to be ''full of shit''. Yes, it's my fault, and yes I suck. Just felt like sharing.

EternalTempest

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

E/

Selling un-id runes is safe thing. In fact always salvage runs Un-id then sell id or unid.

Guild Wars Junkie

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

The Stompers.

R/Mo

yeah, runes are cool, it's just the weapons. I bought an unid monk sup rune for 10k, it was a sup healing. So that was good

romO

romO

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Chicago

Idiot Savants [iQ]

Mo/

the chances are that the unidentified weapons were tested for mods before they were sold, so the chances of getting anything even decent is slim to none.

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

I agree that some people test their unidentified weapons for obvious mods (e.g. fortitude pommels, energy mods) but I think it's really rare for someone to test their inherent damage modifiers in weapons, due to the imprecision in calculating those.

Overall, I'd chalk it up to bad luck. In the end, if you have the excess cash to spend, it may be the best way for you secure one of the best items in the game for much less than it would normally cost.

Lord Iowerth

Lord Iowerth

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Atlanta, GA (#guildwarsguru FTW!)

Biscuit Of Dewm [MEEP]

R/Mo

It's a lottery like anything else. You're betting that you can get something on the cheap ... I haven't done it that much, but did manage to buy an un-id'ed req 8 skull shield that happened to be +30-some-odd health and -2 stance, before all the green stuff came out. Bought it in a lot with about 10 other un-id'ed items for 3k. Pretty good deal, but tried it a few times since and only ended up with junk. I'm not one for gambling

unienaule

unienaule

I dunt even get "Retired"

Join Date: Aug 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Yeah, the other day I was thinking, "What am I missing for my bow collection... I know, a 15(whatever) Stormbow! Hey Mr. Farmer dude, I want that unided one! ZOMG. It's 15(Enchanted). Req 9. Score. Paid 5k for it."

I don't buy unided's much though. As in, I can remember what the other 3 unided things were I've ever bought. 2 Eternal shields and a chaos axe. They were crap.

Guild Wars Junkie

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

The Stompers.

R/Mo

Ha, I don't have excess money, I just do lots of quick business. Like buy a brohns staff for 60k and sell it for 75. Buy 4 black dyes for 25k, and resell each at 7k. That's how I trigger my money. When I get to about 100k, I go like, lets try my luck with some unid stuff...and it all goes down the drain. Haha, I'm stuck with a bunch of shitty low req swords, which leads me to my next business idea, ''target the nooobs''.''Low req RARE sword, only 10k!!!!!!1111''

Andro

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by romO
the chances are that the unidentified weapons were tested for mods before they were sold, so the chances of getting anything even decent is slim to none.
How doo you doo that?

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Andro
How doo you doo that?
You equip the weapon outside of a town while it is unidentified.

If your health increases automatically when you equip it, it has a fortitude pommel.

If you cast an enchantment on yourself and your health increases, it has a while enchanted mod (shields/focuses only).

If you cast a stance on yourself and your health increases, it has a while in a stance mod.

You can also test it by hexing someone else (or when you are hexed) and switching off to the weapon when your health is above or below 50%.

All of the same apply to the energy mods as well - you are just focusing on your energy bar instead of your health bar.

Retribution X

Retribution X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Check behind you again.

N/

Just use my lucky ID jit. every fricking thing is perfect. 15>50 fellblade. bought it unided for 20k.

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

I buy unid'd weapons all the time. LOVE doing that. just the other day i bought a req 8 falchion unid for 8k. here are stats:

Zealous Falchion of Defense
15-22 Dmg (Req 8)
Damage 15% in Stance
Energy gain on hit +1
Energy regen -1
defense +4

Luckly i had another defense +5 pommel on another sword that i salv'd and its now perfect for what i use

Eripens Vitae

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Lost Friends Guild

Mo/Me

A guildie of mine bought un id-ed eternal bow for 15k, turned out to be 15>50 and he sold it for 36 ecto which he then sold for 320k, lucky guy ^^. I never gamble though, i have all i need and if i still need something, i'll farm money and pay for it.

mishop

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

The advice above "do not buy unid'd weapons is good advice. Also multiple posts point out that un id'd weapons can and usually are tested prior to being sold. Ask yourself this question - would you ever sell and un-id'd wepaon without testing it first?

Big_Iron

Big_Iron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Edge

Tormented Weapons [emo]

Quote:
Originally Posted by mishop
The advice above "do not buy unid'd weapons is good advice. Also multiple posts point out that un id'd weapons can and usually are tested prior to being sold. Ask yourself this question - would you ever sell and un-id'd wepaon without testing it first?
Yep. I do it all the time and I actually sell them pretty cheap. Many would say that's foolish, and it probably is, but I have all the weapons I need for all my chars and more than enough money. Everything I get from unIDed weapons is just gravey to me. I mean damn. It's stuff I pick up Griff farming or playing FoW or in the UW. I do that stuff for fun. I'm not trying to be the richest person in GW. It's a game!

Alias_X

Alias_X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Sold a low Rew Storm Bow purple max damage for 9k. Didn't want to risk it being junk.

leeky baby

leeky baby

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Surrey University

Starting to play again... need a guild

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by romO
the chances are that the unidentified weapons were tested for mods before they were sold, so the chances of getting anything even decent is slim to none.
how can u test them before?

leeky baby

leeky baby

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Surrey University

Starting to play again... need a guild

W/E

ya sorry i shoudl read all the post first

Two April Mornings

Two April Mornings

No Luck No Time No Money

Join Date: Nov 2005

Amherst College, MA

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Me/

unid foci have been good to me

TheSonofDarwin

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Black Hand Gang [BHG]

Mo/

Even the % damage mods can easily be tested on weapons as a warrior. Just remember what type of attacks always do the same damage (on the same mob) and it's not hard to figure out.

I wouldn't take the chance on an UnID even if it were only 200g. Most people know how to test them and it only takes a minute to do. Go /W or W/ (which most farmers are anyways), go outside and smack a mob, and there ya go.

Diablo???

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetdoc
You equip the weapon outside of a town while it is unidentified.

If your health increases automatically when you equip it, it has a fortitude pommel.

If you cast an enchantment on yourself and your health increases, it has a while enchanted mod (shields/focuses only).

If you cast a stance on yourself and your health increases, it has a while in a stance mod.

You can also test it by hexing someone else (or when you are hexed) and switching off to the weapon when your health is above or below 50%.

All of the same apply to the energy mods as well - you are just focusing on your energy bar instead of your health bar.
what about dmg bonus? that's alittle hard to decifer, but seems to play a great deal in the price of the item, for some reason 14%^50% and below is shiat, ppl only want the ellusive 15%^50%.

lg5000

lg5000

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australia

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSonofDarwin
go outside and smack a mob, and there ya go.
Uhh.. maybe going 'outside' and smacking a mob is not a wise idea.. however, if you're talking within Tyria, then yeah, why not?

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

The best thing i ever brought un-id was a gold hornbow which turned out to have a 10/10 AP string on it, sadly.. the damn expert salvage couldn't get it out and i wasted my chance of get 10/10 string!

M1h4iL

M1h4iL

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Perth, Australia

Out of all the things I found, only one turned out to be perfect, a longsword req 8 max dmg 15>50, I did farm a little bit in UW and playing through the game, and finding only 1 perfect item just says that you gotta be VERY lucky.

Hockster

Hockster

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

Buying unIDed items is a huge waste. 95% of them have been tested. Anyting decent is IDed and sold for larger amounts.

Rico Carridan

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Eternal Comrades

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Diabloâ„¢
what about dmg bonus? that's alittle hard to decifer, but seems to play a great deal in the price of the item, for some reason 14%^50% and below is shiat, ppl only want the ellusive 15%^50%.
For weapons with tight damage ranges (swords for example), you can probably guess if it has a damage mod just by fighting around a bit. Go fight something for awhile, try going in stance, casting mending on yourself, letting yourself get injured, and see if there are any visible changes. It is much harder with something like an axe, where the damage range is wide enough that its hard to notice the difference.

When I play warrior, I can certainly tell the moment I drop below 50% health even without looking at my health bar, because my damage starts to suck. At a guess, I think you could completely test a sword for vampiric, zealous, fortitude (easy), elemental, and damage mod in under 5 minutes, probably under 2. For something like an axe, you'd probably need closer to 10 for the damage mod.

Rico

snapp

snapp

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

W/

went wild one day and spent 100k on unid longswords....all crap

that really hurt.

Maxiemonster

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

There's not enough difference between a 13^50 damage mod and 15^50 damage mod, so you can't test this. And if you deal a bit more damage, and you think it's a 15^50 mod, it could've been one of the mods on it.

I buy unidentified items, occasionally, from farmers in Augory Rock. Though, don't spend too much, you can get golds for so few gold in Augory.