Chance of missing a target

Mad Ant

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2006

Brotherhood of Fallen Souls

E/N

Hello all.

I have a Mesmer/Necromancer (previously Mesmer/Elementalist), and have a question concerning some of the skills they both have.

Both Mes and Necro have at least one skill that states, in the description, "Target has a 25% of chance to miss ..."

I was wondering how much percent the target has if BOTH of the hexes were placed on a target.

First possibility is that the chance of missing is still 25%, but that missing means both effects come into play.

Second, target attempts to hit, and 2 seperate hits take place, meaning a roughly 44% chance to miss (25%+(25% of 75)), but that one or both effects can happen.

Third, the chances to miss are added - bringing chances to miss up to 50% - and missing means both apply.

I've searched, and can't find a concrete answer to this question. If anyone can help, I would be most obliged.

Many thanks.

Mad Ant

I Wish I Had Pupils

I Wish I Had Pupils

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Dawn's Omen

N/Mo

Well, what skills do you mean? That could help with my understanding.

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

Price of Failure is probably one of the skills.

Murder In China

Murder In China

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2005

/B/Chan

Looking for one

W/

I believe that each hex is taken in account separately when the enemy attacks.

Say you cast Price of Failure first, so Sprit of Failure is the most recent of the two hexes you cast on the enemy. When the enemy attacks, it has a 25% of missing. Then the system does the random chance that the attack is one of the 75% chance it hits.

Then the next hex, Price of Failure, is in effect of that attack. that enemy has to face another 25% chance of missing. So you are right that the enemy has a 44% of missing if both hexes are cast upon that enemy. But only one of the hexes will afflict the enemy.

Hunter Killer

Hunter Killer

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

California

Dei Victorae [dV]

W/

I think you mean Spirit of Failure for the second hex, and both effects come to play when they miss.

NatalieD

NatalieD

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

I'm fairly certain that the chance to miss is substantially higher with both hexes than with just one, but I don't know if it's 50% or 44%. Kinda hard to tell when the difference between potential cases is so small.

Both "X of Failure" hexes trigger their effect whenever the target attacks and doesn't hit, regardless of the cause.

Mad Ant

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2006

Brotherhood of Fallen Souls

E/N

Thank you for the answers you provided.

Yes, the skills were 'Spirit of Failure' and 'Price of Failure', I just didn't have the skills at the time I wrote the post.

As far as I can gather, then, both from you answers and from those from another forum, the % to miss should be roughly 44%, with both effects taking place if the enemy misses.

Hope this is correct.

Hasimir

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/N

Price of Failure deals damage when the attack MISSES.
If I use some skill that let's me BLOCK or EVADE attacks...does these attacks count as "missed" in regards of PoF?

Mercury Angel

Mercury Angel

Avatar of Gwen

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wandering my own road.

The skills cause a chance of missing, but the effects take place if the foe, 'attacks and fails to hit in combat'. Whether you use a stance, evasion/block enchantment (Like Shield of Deflection or Guardian), or debuff the foe to cause them to miss, all of the above will trigger the effects of the Failure spells when they fail to hit you.