The tengu (story behind the bird)
The undead Mesmer
TENGU
The Slayer of Vanity
Origins
China + Karura Birdman + Shinto Elements
Shrine in Yamanakako, Japan
(L) Karasu Tengu (R) Yamabushi Tengu
Laterns on Festival Float, Dontsuku Festival, Inatori City
Tengu are mountain and forest goblins with both Shinto and Buddhist attributes. Their supernatural powers include shape-shifting into human or animal forms, the ability to speak to humans without moving their mouth, the magic of moving instantly from place to place without using their wings, and the sorcery to appear uninvited in the dreams of the living.
The patron of martial arts, the bird-like Tengu is a skilled warrior and mischief maker, especially prone to playing tricks on arrogant and vainglorious Buddhist priests, and to punishing those who willfully misuse knowledge and authority to gain fame or position. In bygone days, they also inflicted their punishments on vain and arrogant samurai warriors. They dislike braggarts, and those who corrupt the Dharma (law).
The literal meaning of Tengu is "Heaven Dog." In Chinese mythology, there is a related creature named Tien Kou, or "celestial hound." The name is misleading, however, as the crow-like Tengu looks nothing like a dog. One plausible theory is that the Chinese Tien Kou derived its name from a destructive meteor that hit China sometime in the 6th century BC. The tail of the falling body resembled that of a dog, hence the name and its initial association with destructive powers.
Historical Notes
Tengu mythology was probably introduced to Japan in the 6th or 7th century AD, in conjunction with the arrival of Buddhism from Korea and China. These goblins thereafter appear in Japan's ancient documents (e.g., from around 720 AD), and are closely associated with Mount Kurama in Japan (near Kibune), the abode of the legendary white-haired Sojobo, King of Tengu. In Myths and Legends of Japan (1913; by F. Hadland Davis), the Tengu are said to emanate from the primordial Japanese god Susano-o. Tengu lore can be found not just in Buddhist circles, but also among Shinto, Budo, and Ninpo groups. As late as 1860, the Edo Government was posting official notices to the Tengu, asking the goblins to temporarily vacate a certain mountain during a scheduled visit by the Shogun (see Japan and China, by Captain Brinkley).
Tengu Origins
Below text courtesy of JAANUS (includes Japanese characters)
Japanese Architecture and Art Net Users System
http://www.aisf.or.jp/~jaanus/deta/t/tengu.htm
Literally celestial dog. A bird-like goblin frequently encountered in Japanese folk-beliefs, literature and their pictorial depictions. The Japanese demons derive the name from the Chinese mountain god Tiangou 天狗, but also are related to the winged Buddhist deity Garuda. Furthermore, tengu are seen as transformations (Jp : keshin 化身) of Shinto deities, yama no kami 山の神, mountain guardians often associated with tall trees. Tengu are of two physical types: karasu tengu 烏天狗 identified by a bird's head and beak; and konoha tengu 木の葉天狗 distinguished by a human physique but with wings and a long nose (also called yamabushi tengu). This type of tengu often carries a feather fan in one hand. Because of its long nose, tengu are associated with the Shinto deity Sarudahiko 猿田彦 who takes on the visage of a monkey, and tengu masks play a prominent role in some religious festivals. Early Japanese popular tales such as those in the KONJAKU MONOGATARI 今昔物語 (early 12c) portray tengu as enemies of Buddhism, setting fires at temples or tricking priests. Priests who attain special powers through religious discipline, but use these powers for their own ends were thought to enter in the next life the transmigratory realm of tengudou 天狗道. The earliest representations of tengu are in Kamakura-period emaki 絵巻, such as the "Tengu zoushi emaki 天狗草紙絵巻" of 1296 (Nezu 根津 Museum), which criticize arrogant priests who end up becoming tengu. According to legend, as a boy the famous warrior Minamoto no Yoshitsune 源義経 (1159-89) trained in magical swordsmanship with the tengu king Soujoubou 僧正坊 near Kuramadera 鞍馬寺 in the mountains north of Kyoto (see photo below). Tengu frequently are shown in pictures concerning the life of Yoshitsune, including both the Hogen-Heiji 保元平治 battle screens (Metropolitan Museum) and depictions of "Hashi Benkei 橋弁慶" or "Benkei at the Bridge" theme. The Momoyama-period daimyo 大名 Kobayakawa Takakage 小早川隆景 (1532-90) supposedly held dialogues with the tengu king Buzenbou 豊前坊 on Mt. Hiko 彦 (see photo below). The character of tengu gradually changed over the centuries. For instance, tengu were long thought to abduct children, but by the Edo period they often were enlisted to aid in the search for missing children. Similarly, tengu became temple guardians and sculpted images of them were placed on or around temple buildings. Tengu also are associated with yamabushi 山伏 or "mountain ascetics," whose form they often assumed. Tengu often are depicted wearing the yamabushi's distinctive cap and robe. Illustration of tengu increased in popularity and variety during the Edo period, usually reflecting the more positive and even light-hearted conception of the once-ferocious demon. In particular, the long nose of the tengu carried both comic and sexual meaning in ukiyo-e 浮世絵 prints. <end quote by JAANUS>
Karasu (crow) Tengu
Hansobo Shrine, Kamakura
Noh Mask
Yamabushi Tengu
(pride-fallen monk)
Yamabushi Tengu
Pride-fallen monk
Hansobo Shrine, Kamakura
TYPES OF TENGU
Daitengu (Major Tengu or Yamabushi Tengu). Symbol of fallen monks or warriors, whose arrogance and pretentiousness angered the Tengu. Portrayed as a tall man with long nose, red face, wearing garb of hermit or priest, with small hat that serves as a drinking cup; with or without wings, but always able to fly; sometimes wearing geta (wooden sandals), holding a magic fan made of bird feathers (when used, can make hellish winds), carrying a staff (bo/jo) or small mallet.
Kurama Tengu (Tengu of Mt. Kurama). Home of the white-haired and ancient Sojobo, King of the Tengu.
Karasu Tengu
(Crow Tengu, Minor
Tengu or Kotengu)
The most ancient form, these crow-like goblins now serve the Daitengu Yamabushi Tengu.
Tengu Evolution
The Tengu has evolved in both appearance and purpose over the centuries. Originally portrayed as an evil crow-like creature with a man's body, a beaked face, a small compact head, feathered wings, and heavy claws, the Tengu has since evolved into a protective bird-like man-goblin with an uncommonly long nose, wearing a small monk hat, and oft-times sporting a red face. Patrons of the martial arts, Tengu are credited with exraordinary skills in sword fighting and weapon smithing. They sometimes serve as mentors in the art of war and strategy to humans they find worthy. Tengu live in colonies under the leadership of a single Tengu, who is served by messenger Tengu (usually Karasu). More mischievous than evil, the Tengu are hatched from eggs like birds.
Karasu Tengu ("Crow" Tengu)
The ancient form of the Tengu was the "karasu" or "crow" Tengu. Portrayed as an evil crow-like creature with the body of a man, it was capable of kidnapping adults and children, starting fires, and ripping apart those who willfully damaged the forest, for the Tengu live in trees. Sometimes, too, the Tengu would abduct human beings, only to release them later, but the "lucky" survivor would return home in a state of dementia (called "Tengu Kakushi, meaning "hidden by a Tengu").
Yamabushi Tengu (Mountain Monk)
Over the centuries, the Tengu becomes more human in appearance and takes on a protective role in the affairs of men. The Tengu can transform itself into a man, woman, or child, but its prefered disquise is to appear as a barefooted, wandering, elderly mountain hermit or monk (yamabushi) with an extremely long nose. Both the magical tanuki (badger) and oinari (fox) can also change to human form, and in some Japanese traditions these two creatures are actually considered to be animal manifestations of Tengu.
The Yamabushi Tengu comes in two flavors -- the long-nosed goblin with human face or the beak-nosed goblin with human face.
The Buddhist Connection
Why the Long Nose?
Tengu are always portrayed as having a mischievous sense of humor, for they love playing tricks on those they encounter, especially on pretentious and arrogant Buddhist priests and samurai. Indeed, by the late Kamakura Period, the Tengu become a major literary vehicle for criticising both established and nascent Buddhist sects (see RESOURCES below for more).
The long nose relates to the Tengu's hatred of arrogance and prejudice. Priests with no true knowledge, prideful individuals, those attached to fame, and those who willfully mislead or misuse the Buddhist cannons are turned into the long-nosed Yamabushi Tengu (or sent to Tengudo, the realm of the Tengu) after their deaths. Corrupt Buddhist monks and corrupt Buddhist monestaries were in fact a major concern throughout Japan's middle ages. Tengu are thus seen as protectors of the Dharma (Buddhist law), and punish those who mislead the people. Over time, the folklore of tengu and yamabushi become intertwined, and even the crow tengu (karasu tengu) begin wearing the robes and caps of priests.
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yes yes the tengu have a bit history go go A-net i love those birds trolls goblin thingies anny comments
The Slayer of Vanity
Origins
China + Karura Birdman + Shinto Elements
Shrine in Yamanakako, Japan
(L) Karasu Tengu (R) Yamabushi Tengu
Laterns on Festival Float, Dontsuku Festival, Inatori City
Tengu are mountain and forest goblins with both Shinto and Buddhist attributes. Their supernatural powers include shape-shifting into human or animal forms, the ability to speak to humans without moving their mouth, the magic of moving instantly from place to place without using their wings, and the sorcery to appear uninvited in the dreams of the living.
The patron of martial arts, the bird-like Tengu is a skilled warrior and mischief maker, especially prone to playing tricks on arrogant and vainglorious Buddhist priests, and to punishing those who willfully misuse knowledge and authority to gain fame or position. In bygone days, they also inflicted their punishments on vain and arrogant samurai warriors. They dislike braggarts, and those who corrupt the Dharma (law).
The literal meaning of Tengu is "Heaven Dog." In Chinese mythology, there is a related creature named Tien Kou, or "celestial hound." The name is misleading, however, as the crow-like Tengu looks nothing like a dog. One plausible theory is that the Chinese Tien Kou derived its name from a destructive meteor that hit China sometime in the 6th century BC. The tail of the falling body resembled that of a dog, hence the name and its initial association with destructive powers.
Historical Notes
Tengu mythology was probably introduced to Japan in the 6th or 7th century AD, in conjunction with the arrival of Buddhism from Korea and China. These goblins thereafter appear in Japan's ancient documents (e.g., from around 720 AD), and are closely associated with Mount Kurama in Japan (near Kibune), the abode of the legendary white-haired Sojobo, King of Tengu. In Myths and Legends of Japan (1913; by F. Hadland Davis), the Tengu are said to emanate from the primordial Japanese god Susano-o. Tengu lore can be found not just in Buddhist circles, but also among Shinto, Budo, and Ninpo groups. As late as 1860, the Edo Government was posting official notices to the Tengu, asking the goblins to temporarily vacate a certain mountain during a scheduled visit by the Shogun (see Japan and China, by Captain Brinkley).
Tengu Origins
Below text courtesy of JAANUS (includes Japanese characters)
Japanese Architecture and Art Net Users System
http://www.aisf.or.jp/~jaanus/deta/t/tengu.htm
Literally celestial dog. A bird-like goblin frequently encountered in Japanese folk-beliefs, literature and their pictorial depictions. The Japanese demons derive the name from the Chinese mountain god Tiangou 天狗, but also are related to the winged Buddhist deity Garuda. Furthermore, tengu are seen as transformations (Jp : keshin 化身) of Shinto deities, yama no kami 山の神, mountain guardians often associated with tall trees. Tengu are of two physical types: karasu tengu 烏天狗 identified by a bird's head and beak; and konoha tengu 木の葉天狗 distinguished by a human physique but with wings and a long nose (also called yamabushi tengu). This type of tengu often carries a feather fan in one hand. Because of its long nose, tengu are associated with the Shinto deity Sarudahiko 猿田彦 who takes on the visage of a monkey, and tengu masks play a prominent role in some religious festivals. Early Japanese popular tales such as those in the KONJAKU MONOGATARI 今昔物語 (early 12c) portray tengu as enemies of Buddhism, setting fires at temples or tricking priests. Priests who attain special powers through religious discipline, but use these powers for their own ends were thought to enter in the next life the transmigratory realm of tengudou 天狗道. The earliest representations of tengu are in Kamakura-period emaki 絵巻, such as the "Tengu zoushi emaki 天狗草紙絵巻" of 1296 (Nezu 根津 Museum), which criticize arrogant priests who end up becoming tengu. According to legend, as a boy the famous warrior Minamoto no Yoshitsune 源義経 (1159-89) trained in magical swordsmanship with the tengu king Soujoubou 僧正坊 near Kuramadera 鞍馬寺 in the mountains north of Kyoto (see photo below). Tengu frequently are shown in pictures concerning the life of Yoshitsune, including both the Hogen-Heiji 保元平治 battle screens (Metropolitan Museum) and depictions of "Hashi Benkei 橋弁慶" or "Benkei at the Bridge" theme. The Momoyama-period daimyo 大名 Kobayakawa Takakage 小早川隆景 (1532-90) supposedly held dialogues with the tengu king Buzenbou 豊前坊 on Mt. Hiko 彦 (see photo below). The character of tengu gradually changed over the centuries. For instance, tengu were long thought to abduct children, but by the Edo period they often were enlisted to aid in the search for missing children. Similarly, tengu became temple guardians and sculpted images of them were placed on or around temple buildings. Tengu also are associated with yamabushi 山伏 or "mountain ascetics," whose form they often assumed. Tengu often are depicted wearing the yamabushi's distinctive cap and robe. Illustration of tengu increased in popularity and variety during the Edo period, usually reflecting the more positive and even light-hearted conception of the once-ferocious demon. In particular, the long nose of the tengu carried both comic and sexual meaning in ukiyo-e 浮世絵 prints. <end quote by JAANUS>
Karasu (crow) Tengu
Hansobo Shrine, Kamakura
Noh Mask
Yamabushi Tengu
(pride-fallen monk)
Yamabushi Tengu
Pride-fallen monk
Hansobo Shrine, Kamakura
TYPES OF TENGU
Daitengu (Major Tengu or Yamabushi Tengu). Symbol of fallen monks or warriors, whose arrogance and pretentiousness angered the Tengu. Portrayed as a tall man with long nose, red face, wearing garb of hermit or priest, with small hat that serves as a drinking cup; with or without wings, but always able to fly; sometimes wearing geta (wooden sandals), holding a magic fan made of bird feathers (when used, can make hellish winds), carrying a staff (bo/jo) or small mallet.
Kurama Tengu (Tengu of Mt. Kurama). Home of the white-haired and ancient Sojobo, King of the Tengu.
Karasu Tengu
(Crow Tengu, Minor
Tengu or Kotengu)
The most ancient form, these crow-like goblins now serve the Daitengu Yamabushi Tengu.
Tengu Evolution
The Tengu has evolved in both appearance and purpose over the centuries. Originally portrayed as an evil crow-like creature with a man's body, a beaked face, a small compact head, feathered wings, and heavy claws, the Tengu has since evolved into a protective bird-like man-goblin with an uncommonly long nose, wearing a small monk hat, and oft-times sporting a red face. Patrons of the martial arts, Tengu are credited with exraordinary skills in sword fighting and weapon smithing. They sometimes serve as mentors in the art of war and strategy to humans they find worthy. Tengu live in colonies under the leadership of a single Tengu, who is served by messenger Tengu (usually Karasu). More mischievous than evil, the Tengu are hatched from eggs like birds.
Karasu Tengu ("Crow" Tengu)
The ancient form of the Tengu was the "karasu" or "crow" Tengu. Portrayed as an evil crow-like creature with the body of a man, it was capable of kidnapping adults and children, starting fires, and ripping apart those who willfully damaged the forest, for the Tengu live in trees. Sometimes, too, the Tengu would abduct human beings, only to release them later, but the "lucky" survivor would return home in a state of dementia (called "Tengu Kakushi, meaning "hidden by a Tengu").
Yamabushi Tengu (Mountain Monk)
Over the centuries, the Tengu becomes more human in appearance and takes on a protective role in the affairs of men. The Tengu can transform itself into a man, woman, or child, but its prefered disquise is to appear as a barefooted, wandering, elderly mountain hermit or monk (yamabushi) with an extremely long nose. Both the magical tanuki (badger) and oinari (fox) can also change to human form, and in some Japanese traditions these two creatures are actually considered to be animal manifestations of Tengu.
The Yamabushi Tengu comes in two flavors -- the long-nosed goblin with human face or the beak-nosed goblin with human face.
The Buddhist Connection
Why the Long Nose?
Tengu are always portrayed as having a mischievous sense of humor, for they love playing tricks on those they encounter, especially on pretentious and arrogant Buddhist priests and samurai. Indeed, by the late Kamakura Period, the Tengu become a major literary vehicle for criticising both established and nascent Buddhist sects (see RESOURCES below for more).
The long nose relates to the Tengu's hatred of arrogance and prejudice. Priests with no true knowledge, prideful individuals, those attached to fame, and those who willfully mislead or misuse the Buddhist cannons are turned into the long-nosed Yamabushi Tengu (or sent to Tengudo, the realm of the Tengu) after their deaths. Corrupt Buddhist monks and corrupt Buddhist monestaries were in fact a major concern throughout Japan's middle ages. Tengu are thus seen as protectors of the Dharma (Buddhist law), and punish those who mislead the people. Over time, the folklore of tengu and yamabushi become intertwined, and even the crow tengu (karasu tengu) begin wearing the robes and caps of priests.
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yes yes the tengu have a bit history go go A-net i love those birds trolls goblin thingies anny comments
Malchior Devenholm
dude, cool...i wish there wasn't so much reading to b done though, sry i have ADD although i read about 1/2 of it, nice stuff
heavy metal rules
man i was wondering what was keeping me up all night, now i can finally get some sleep now..thanks..i'll be sure to salute them when i see them next before i slit thier throats...
Orbberius
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Originally Posted by The undead Mesmer
The long nose relates to the Tengu's hatred of arrogance and prejudice. Priests with no true knowledge, prideful individuals, those attached to fame, and those who willfully mislead or misuse the Buddhist cannons are turned into the long-nosed Yamabushi Tengu (or sent to Tengudo, the realm of the Tengu) after their deaths.
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Turbo Wombat
Tengu were also rumored to be ancestors of the ninja clans since they both seemed to share some of the strange mystical abilities (shapeshifting, vanishing, instentainious/silent movement, etc.). Of course, people were really superstitious back then and easy to trick
Uzul
*thumbs up*
just the read i needed to relax after this long walk home ^^
/bow
ps: i will still go out and tear all tengus apart that stand in my way - not to harvest their noses, just for the sake of doing it. X_x
@wombat: quiet a lot of ninjutsu techniques will still work on the unprepared mind.
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just the read i needed to relax after this long walk home ^^
/bow
ps: i will still go out and tear all tengus apart that stand in my way - not to harvest their noses, just for the sake of doing it. X_x
@wombat: quiet a lot of ninjutsu techniques will still work on the unprepared mind.
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Fyre Brand
Thanks Undead Mesmer. That was a really nice read. Nice job ANet for bringing some interesting history to our gaming world.
ghostlyranger
cool man, i thought tengu was colonel chicken (kfc). joking
well, i always thinking that tengu race was just some creative creation by anet.
nice research
well, i always thinking that tengu race was just some creative creation by anet.
nice research
Siliconwafer
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That's some interesting information, though.
heist23
odd....that doesn't explain why they kick so much ass. seriously, tengu are some of the fiercest monsters in GW.
The undead Mesmer
Tengu are fierce warriors and love to annoy humans so that already explains a lot oooh and i got it from this site.
(lots of pictures included)
http://www.onmarkproductions.com/html/tengu.shtml
thats a tengu
(lots of pictures included)
http://www.onmarkproductions.com/html/tengu.shtml
thats a tengu
natus
nice article there, didn't read it all though E:
the tengu have always been my favorite monsters in gw, and there's only 2 types of them...i guess that makes them more unique than the 2 tailed scorpions..or the multi colored scarabs.
http://www.onmarkproductions.com/ass...p-NOH_MASK.jpg
this one looks pretty much like the ones in gw ;o
the tengu have always been my favorite monsters in gw, and there's only 2 types of them...i guess that makes them more unique than the 2 tailed scorpions..or the multi colored scarabs.
http://www.onmarkproductions.com/ass...p-NOH_MASK.jpg
this one looks pretty much like the ones in gw ;o
Haku_Fudomine
Just to add something, the karasa tengu are usually portrayed as very fragile creatures holding a giant leaf as a weapon. The ones with the long noes are known as "Daitengu", they are much much mroe powerful then the karasa tengus as they have lived over 1000 years. They communicate through telepathy, instead of flying from tree to tree, they teleport, and there feathered war fans are capable of calling forth hurricane like winds.
master_ranger_matt
I've found myself a new pet...
Maybe Ill buy the cage in Lion's arch and keep him there
Maybe Ill buy the cage in Lion's arch and keep him there
chris_nin00
Great job undead.
You remind me of that Steve Irwin guy. First bugs now tengu. What's next? Minotaurs?
I think you should take some pictures with some of the animals; get up close and personal. And maybe you can make a video with a running commentary .
As for my contribution to this study...
This is a Tengu in the modern world
Your eyes are not broken. You are seeing the Tengu of Today.
You remind me of that Steve Irwin guy. First bugs now tengu. What's next? Minotaurs?
I think you should take some pictures with some of the animals; get up close and personal. And maybe you can make a video with a running commentary .
As for my contribution to this study...
This is a Tengu in the modern world
Your eyes are not broken. You are seeing the Tengu of Today.
Sir Skullcrasher
Hey Undead Mesmer can you do Charrs next... i wonder where they came from!
The undead Mesmer
sure i whill try that hmmm lets go to GOOGLE :P annyways il try it.
"Nothing Higher Can Be Said Of A Salmonid Than It Is A Charr"
...anonymous turn of the century Angler
Arctic Charr are a member of the Salmonid family, having their own biological genera - Salvelinus (Charr) and sub genera - Salvelinus Alpinus (Arctic Charr). |See Taxonomy Chart|
In general Arctic Charr have an elongated body and an adipose fin, and notably have very small scales and an easily distinguished skull structure. Anadromonous or sea run Arctic Charr are silvery in colour with tints of deep to greenish blue to the back and sides and red to pinkish spots along and below the lateral line. Freshwater or land locked specimens are green-brown with reddish to white spots along the side and an orange to red belly. Mature fish of both sexes are often very deep pink to brownish red in colour
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Whot :P they are ''charr''
Btw woot my first thing that did find the front page of guildwarsguru thats something new Thanks to everybody who made it possible.
"Nothing Higher Can Be Said Of A Salmonid Than It Is A Charr"
...anonymous turn of the century Angler
Arctic Charr are a member of the Salmonid family, having their own biological genera - Salvelinus (Charr) and sub genera - Salvelinus Alpinus (Arctic Charr). |See Taxonomy Chart|
In general Arctic Charr have an elongated body and an adipose fin, and notably have very small scales and an easily distinguished skull structure. Anadromonous or sea run Arctic Charr are silvery in colour with tints of deep to greenish blue to the back and sides and red to pinkish spots along and below the lateral line. Freshwater or land locked specimens are green-brown with reddish to white spots along the side and an orange to red belly. Mature fish of both sexes are often very deep pink to brownish red in colour
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Whot :P they are ''charr''
Btw woot my first thing that did find the front page of guildwarsguru thats something new Thanks to everybody who made it possible.
natus
hmm, when i look i those pictures, i sort of want a tengu boss dude with wings and awesomeness, like, some evil dude sitting on the tengu throne in the tengu...place... (not just some scrappy aura guy ._.) :/\
Laurelin Goldtree
Very interesting. I'd never have thought to Google it, myself....I take a great interest in all things mythological, but I figured the name was something Anet pulled out of their....nevermind. Anyhow: I signed on this evening to find something out about Tengu/Avicara incidentally, so I suppose this is the best place to ask:
If I were to put a +20% tenguslaying mod on my bow, would it apply to Avicara as well?
If I were to put a +20% tenguslaying mod on my bow, would it apply to Avicara as well?
Sol_Vie
Wow that's cool.
I was expecting something more along the lines of "In the year 9999 when killer turkeys rule the world..."
ATHF ftw.
I was expecting something more along the lines of "In the year 9999 when killer turkeys rule the world..."
ATHF ftw.
The Yoink
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Originally Posted by Sol_Vie
Wow that's cool.
I was expecting something more along the lines of "In the year 9999 when killer turkeys rule the world..." ATHF ftw. |
as for the article, excellent job in digging that stuff up... that's definately more than I ever wanted to know about Tengu
The undead Mesmer
Thanks thanks thanks and now shall i find some things out about charr Minotaurs skales or errr Aloe seeds :P
Dahnel
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Originally Posted by The undead Mesmer
the ability to speak to humans without moving their mouth
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Tur713
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Originally Posted by The undead Mesmer
Thanks thanks thanks and now shall i find some things out about charr Minotaurs skales or errr Aloe seeds :P
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4thVariety
Try Rurik and Russian History, you are in for a surprise about the origins of the story line.
Rurik was the first founder of russia and most likely a viking exile. Later sovereigns traced themselfs back to him to proove the validity of their claims to rule.
none of them made for an undead guy though.
Rurik was the first founder of russia and most likely a viking exile. Later sovereigns traced themselfs back to him to proove the validity of their claims to rule.
none of them made for an undead guy though.
Uncle Penny
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Originally Posted by The undead Mesmer
Thanks thanks thanks and now shall i find some things out about charr Minotaurs skales or errr Aloe seeds :P
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Ichabod The Ranger
Well, there is no such mod as avcaraslaying so I believe it would
Also, the avicara are in the tengu family .
Also, the avicara are in the tengu family .
Csquirrelrun
Unlike The undead mesmer I immediately turned to www.answers.com my favourite place to search something I don't know about. So I tried "Charr"
However it came up with a detailed description of the Charr we all know and love, those that only exist in the virtual world of Guild Wars. So I tried the other possibilities and thought this was kinda funny. I know Undead Mesmer found a description of this but just to drive their point home. Have fun
Arctic Char
However it came up with a detailed description of the Charr we all know and love, those that only exist in the virtual world of Guild Wars. So I tried the other possibilities and thought this was kinda funny. I know Undead Mesmer found a description of this but just to drive their point home. Have fun
Arctic Char
Blaster The Warrior
hey very nice i finally know were those tengu's come from i thought they were made up by A-Net's fantasy xD i guess not then.
Cronos Khan
A very awesome read! I am so hyped up for Factions now!
Tried looking up Charr, nothing on those guys
Tried looking up Charr, nothing on those guys
Kassad Shrikekiller
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Originally Posted by Dictionary.com
char
v. charred, char·ring, chars v. tr. 1. To burn the surface of; scorch. 2. To reduce to carbon or charcoal by incomplete combustion. |
Cronos Khan
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Originally Posted by Kassad Shrikekiller
I think this is self-explanatory.
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Joseph the Jester
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Originally Posted by heist23
odd....that doesn't explain why they kick so much ass. seriously, tengu are some of the fiercest monsters in GW.
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Zegorzalek
Nicely done research! Can't say my ele has EVER been kind to OR liked those annoying disrupting birds....heh
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Warcheif_Jonval
From all the time ive spent searching for stuff on Charr, ive come to belive that they are just creations of Anet.
The best monsters they have ever created as well. Much better than their Orcish counterparts in other games
The best monsters they have ever created as well. Much better than their Orcish counterparts in other games
The undead Mesmer
Btw tengu are more smarter then they seem sadly whe havent seen Necro tengu henchies yet
ETSubmariner
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Originally Posted by Csquirrelrun
However it came up with a detailed description of the Charr we all know and love, those that only exist in the virtual world of Guild Wars. So I tried the other possibilities and thought this was kinda funny. I know Undead Mesmer found a description of this but just to drive their point home. Have fun
Arctic Char |
Homer (yes, thee Homer) wrote about five harmful demons, and Charr (also known as Charrer and Asbestos) is the name of one of those demons. Sorry to disappoint, but A-Net didn't come up with the Charr name or their normal intentions (artisitic license notwithstanding).
Specifically, Homer wrote: "Potters, if you give me a reward, I will sing for you. Come, then, Athena [goddess of pottery], with hand upraised over the kiln. Let the pots and all the dishes turn out well and be well fired: let them fetch good prices and be sold in plenty in the market. Grant that the potters may get great gain and grant me so to sing to them. But if you turn shameless and make false promises, then I call together the destroyers of kilns, Suntribos and Smaragon and Charr and Sabaktes and Omodamos who can work this craft much mischief. Come all of you and sack the kiln-yard and the buildings: let the whole kiln be shaken up to the potter's loud lament. As a horse's jaw grinds, so let the kiln grind to powder all the pots inside."
Of course, in GW, Charr are all about fire, and burning things and otherwise being harmful, so maybe the real GW story about the Charr is that some poor potter in Ascalon who made the best pots in the land was trying to call upon Dwyana or Lyssa to help him bake some vases, but got the brush off so he called upon the Charr(er) to make Ascalon suffer!
One neat touch was that cut-scene when the Charr were casting spells to bring about the Searing - they were using a big pot to send forth their spell into the sky.
Anyway, that's maybe where A-Net got the idea for Charr.