are these the undead or.......are they trolls

vncanadian

vncanadian

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

SSSJ

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hey guys
i just wanted to know what monsters are classified as undead and what not

is it listed somewhere? because i haven't seen the post.. is it in their name?

ie. UNDEAD ranger ... mountain TROLL.....sand GIANT


what are the aaxte classified as?


: ] many thanks

Manic Smile

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wow...I thought this would be weasy but i'm pretty stumped...look them up uner guldwiki.org if not there is a monster compendum somewhere


Nightmare/Shadows

http://www.guildwiki.org/wiki/Creatures

dargon

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

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Yeah, the prima guide lists Vengeful Ataxes as nightmares. How accurate that is is to be determined, especially since there isn't a +dmg vs nightmares mod

Y O S H I

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Join Date: Jan 2006

We Gat Dis [HRUU]

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aatxes are actually really powerful minotaur, they attack the same and everything

Lord Iowerth

Lord Iowerth

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Biscuit Of Dewm [MEEP]

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Heh, that prima guide may be more accurate than you think ... here's why I say that:

Take Edge of Extinction to the UW (normally have it if you're trapping) and watch what happens to the Aatxe when you kill a dying nightmare ... you'll see the little swirly "damage flash" around the Aatxe, meaning they are the same species ... I noticed this the other day while trapping.

And EoE is your friend for testing out species of things, just be looking at ("targeting") something else while you finish off your original target with some melee hits/arrows, and watch for the splash.

vncanadian

vncanadian

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SSSJ

W/Mo

:O

nightmares :[


skeletons = undead right? deathbane...

ShadowStorm

ShadowStorm

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Take me where I cannot stand.

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Yes, I've tested with a Deathbane mod on 1 sword and a fortitude mod on my other sword. The Deathbane sword did more damage to the aatxe on average than the other one. Believe it or not, Aatxe are a form of undead, even though they fight as if they were Minotaurs.

Tetris L

Tetris L

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Germany

Servants of Fortuna

Some creatures are incredibly difficult to classify, especially if there is no weapon upgrade "of ______slaying" available for the species.

We've been discussing this on GuildWiki over a long time, and still havn't determined the species tree in some cases.

Undead is rather easy to determine, because of the double damage from Holy Damage and because there is a weapon "of Deathbane" (i.e. of Undead-slaying). But there are sub-species of undead: Skeletons, for example. Some undead are fleshy, others are not. Some leave a corpse, others don't.

Former Ruling

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Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

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Axes are undead (Nightmares to be exact) - but they do seem to be the nightmares of dead Minotaurs.

You Have the overclass: UNDEAD
Then you have:
Zombies
Skeletons
Nightmares
Ghosts
Animated things
and Ghouls

As far as I can tell the ones that leave corpses are Ghouls and Zombies, and theres little exception to that.

Zodiak

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

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Kiss of Anguish [KISS]

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I told you my thread should have been stickied. It has awesome information that has been tested, pertaining to Undead

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...d.php?t=105080

I was wondering about Undead VS Skeletons

Please read and sticky it

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

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Your thread proves my statement too.

Ghouls and Zombies have bodies - nothing else. (In that thread the guy grouped all body having undead together, but I seperated races).

Which makes sense. Nightmare types and ghosts dont have bodies at all, animated things are "stealing" body parts - so the parts are destroyed upon the magic ending (Except the flesh golem elite for chapter 2 - which is stronger magic so the minion keeps a body after death), and skeletons only have bones - no flesh.

vncanadian

vncanadian

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SSSJ

W/Mo

Cheers Deathbane Owns?

Zodiak

Jungle Guide

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Kiss of Anguish [KISS]

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From what I've experienced with my +20% deathbane sword, I conclude

Yes, deathbane does own

striderkaaru

striderkaaru

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Former Ruling
Which makes sense. Nightmare types and ghosts dont have bodies at all, animated things are "stealing" body parts - so the parts are destroyed upon the magic ending (Except the flesh golem elite for chapter 2 - which is stronger magic so the minion keeps a body after death), and skeletons only have bones - no flesh.
then why do aatxe leave bodies...?