Infinergy Ele

Also known as Blow Sh*t Up build
I am sure it isn't groundbreaking, but I did a search and didn't see anything

Pretty basic setup but nice and spammable. Only concern is having enchantments stripped. I ran this build in Sorrow's furnace and loved it.

Attributes:
Max Fire
Max Energy Storage

Skills:
Mark of Rodgort
Flare
Immolate
Fireball
Meteor Shower
Fire Attunement
Elemental Attunement (Elite)
Res Sig

Playing the build:
Before going into battle case Elemental Attunement, then Fire Attunement.
You now have an 80% energy recoup. Your energy regeneration rate picks up the extra 20% pretty quickly.

Spam Mark, Flare, Immolate, Fireball...rinse and repeat. Assuming you don't get your enchants removed you never run out of energy.

This is very nice against bosses. If you have a nice tight mob throw a Meteor shower in there then start spamming again.

The nice thing about the build is that even if you are in the heat of battle and don't get a chance to recast your attunements you have plenty of energy. If you can recast them when you are about down to 50% energy you will still be able to continuously spam.

I find I like this build much better than Echo builds. Mostly because Echos will spam firestorm or Meteor shower and since the AoE nerf, I am usually hesitant to use those two skills. It might sometimes keep them in the spot (shower moreso than storm). And to help my Warriors. Nothing worse when you are a warrior then when your target starts running and you get dragged along.

Build also works well for my friend's Air Spiker (watch out for exhaustion spells). Don't know how it would work for Water or Earth.

Thanks for looking

The way things are rounded, isn't it the case that:

Flare et al. cost 2 net energy points
Immolate et al. also cost 2 net energy points
15 point spells cost 4 net energy points

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The way things are rounded, isn't it the case that:

Flare et al. cost 2 net energy points
Immolate et al. also cost 2 net energy points
15 point spells cost 4 net energy points

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maybe inciendary than flare.. or just a plain metoer.or phoenix

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Maybe get a cover enchant like Holy Veil.

I dont have an elementalist

But this sounds like fun. Would a fast casting mesmer work? If you say you pretty much hover around 70-80 out of 90 I would guess that you dont necesarily need that much energy? So would fast casting make your casts TOO fast so that the 4 pips of regen would not be enough to regen the energy lost?

I cant try this out because I just created the mesmer and shes not even out of pre yet.

I just recreated a Me/Ele to try this out. A fast casting ele sounds awful fun to me.

I am not sure if it will work or not. I can tell you right now just out of searing I am not happy using any of my ele spells because I am out of energy soo often. My ele has 45 energy I think with 4 pips. And it will be awhile before you can get both elemental attunement and your other attunement.
Air, Earth and Water attunement seem to come pretty early but fire takes a while to get.

Once I get to that point I am definately going to try the fast infinergy ele.
It should still work though. Be sure to cast elemental first so that you can get the recoup off of the actual element attunement.

That is AWESOME that you are tryin this out

Let me know if you need anything, I can run you to Droks/ other places for free so that you can get rolling faster.

My in game name is

Hire Ed

I will be online in a few hours.

Well I've been playing around with the build, I've worked with flame burst, incendiary bonds, meteor rodgorts invocation. I am not happy one way or another with the speed or range of anything so far.

My original skill list seems to work best for me still.

Any other feedback is appreciated

Well, at 80 energy regen per second and 2 energy net cost per spell, you indeed can cast 40 or so spells per second without a big problem. Your initial energy endowment should cover the cost of the ones where you don't get Attunement benefits, for several minutes at least.

And without Flare or the equivalent, it's going to be very hard to spend all that energy.

2 x 20% recharge helps a bit, however.

In your original build you said that using Mark of Rodgort, then Flare,Immolate,Fireball work nicely to spam... IMO, Immolate defeats the purpose of Mark of Rodgort since they will both be setting on fire... You could put a Meteor or Phoenix in there for more damage, and then they will set on fire anyway because of the Mark. I know you said you like to spam, but Flare instantly recharges so even without Immolate you should be able to always spam it.

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Yeah been using Elemental attunement and fire attunement for a couple of months now, its fun to watch other eles in the group call for BiP as theyve run out of energy

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True, exhaustion isn't really a problem unless you are in prolonged fights and at the time I wrote this I still have meteor shower in the build as well.

I just got out from beating tombs (yay!) with a slightly modified version of the build that I like a lot.

Good point on casting fire attune before elemental though! I never really thought of it that way.

The new build I am using is an E/Me, it is meant to be as fast casting an spammable offensive as I could think to make it.

Skills:
Flare
Immolate
Fireball
Phoenix (Switch with your preference, I would usually swap this with meteor shower depending on the area)
Mantra of Resolve (Works GREAT in tombs, swap as needed for other areas, hex breaker is good for SF)
Elemental Attunment (Elite)
Fire Attunement

Attributes:
Fire 12 +3+1
Energy Storage 11 + 3
Inspiration 6
5 points left over
Res Sig

no you dont want to cast Elemental Attunement 2nd... if an enchantment gets removed, then that one goes first... which leaves you with only 30% energy regainment.. If you cover Elemental with the normal Fire Attunement, then if anything gets stripped, its the Fire, whcih leaves you with still 50% regainment from your spells. Although it gives up a few seconds... it doesnt matter much because if its gets stripped, you want to still get as much energy out of it as possible.. it will make up for itself in the long run

yes ele attune is good, but yer e/me anyways you don't want arcane echo for met shower? not having 2 available is a questionable move

I get away with fire attune and smart energy management pretty well
In a group if a necro has blood ritual and/or bip great too if need

you need less 'infinergy' if you knocked things out big and fast
now yours might work more inconjunction with the SS Necro who needs things to stay alive and act in order to milk out the damage

now if you start seeing that, arcane echo costs 10 more than elite echo or glyph of renewal. so the more you use it the more the gain of ele attune vs a echo/GoR blurs

but I like glyph of renewal/meteor storm even better than echo - no enchant strip like the echoes can be, one always on deck, and it effectively can now be cast every 15 seconds w/o a thought - GoR effectively reduces ANY recharge spell length to 15 seconds, AND one is available on deck if you choose to allow it the regular recharge AND you don't have to use it in 'x' timeframe, etc

I hear ya, I wanted to love ele attune way way back and its true it can keep ya going. But for the busy/tough spots stripping happens, drains & interrupts happen, there is a lag on the enchant recycle, often you're too busy or it might not get back up when you want it, its a cost itself that isnt reduced, etc

In effect I find the pacing of the high level game has me bringing the megatonage and I normally dont suffer for it. For the PROLONGED situations that is some rare pve/pvp maybe, but once again strip vunerable. When I was concerned about energy I'd sometimes pull out glyph of energy. Just in actual usage in SF, FoW, UW certainly you want to level stuff ASAP.

But long and steady good deal and glad to see some activity here.
I just rocked all the zaishan stuff with my ele and henchmen, seems ele have a hard time gettin groups of late -shrug-.

Seems its turning around some (new HoH), but its amazing how many people didnt get the AoE nerf and ran for the hills. *1* day it was bad. The next day only a few (repeating) aoe spells are of questionable merit and can still have a role.

Only using your build a lot proves it out - I'd post mine but even today I tweak it now and then, I'll post the latest next time it's not 3:30am after pvp weekend play

ive been using the ele attune/xx attune combo for as long as i dont have another elite that is more useful. as long as there are no enchant removers it works well, but enchnat removers really mess up your game. does anyone have a good way of preventing them getting removed, because even though i cast ele attune first they all seem to go if theres a half decent mesmer around.

I saw this build and had an interesting thought, can your energy still hold out if you are a fast cast mesmer?

So I tried it out, and guess what? It can. I tried it with all the elements and found that even with exhaustion I was ok, and I could continually spam all my spells for the full duration of the attunements (I was also using a +18% enchant mod).

I had 16 in fastcasting and the element at 12. I tried to keep my max energy as low as possible, I think it was about 34. I will try it tonight with my warrior to see if I can make it workable...wouldn't that be sweet infinite enrgy and massive armor...