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Francis Demeules

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada, Qc

[Holy]

Me/Mo

18 Jan 2006 at 22:52 - 1

I found this build on the Internet and it looks interesting. If there one on this has posted before, then sorry. By the way, I have a little problem with this build: I miss 2 skills I can put

. Here my stats and skill I use:

Illusion: 14
Fast Casting: 8
Domination: 10
Inspiration: 9

Fragility
Phantom Pain
Shatter Delusion
Virulence (E)
Energy Tap (or something else to get energy)
Ether Feast

I thought to put Clumsiness and Res signet because i dont really use the other skills. If you have an idea for the others slots, let me know. And another thing, what do you think about this set?

agentblade

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Singapore

Iron Legion of Kurzick [ILK]

Me/E

19 Jan 2006 at 08:12 - 2

this is the old spike build which got nerfed and so is not as effective as before. But dun let me put u down, be bold and explore the possibilities, u'll be surprised at what you might find..

rii

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

UK

19 Jan 2006 at 15:15 - 3

In the old frag build there used to be two skills missing from the build that used to be filled with whatever you wanted. I suggest arcane echo to get 2 times the virulence and something like parasitic bond. Then, cover after phantom pain, meaning any external hex removal/ boon-cop wont take you out (shatter delusions only removes mesmer hexes, or at least it used to). Then the combo is frag-pp-parasitic bond-shatter delusions-arcaneecho-virulence x 2. Power Drain and res sig are your best bets for the last two and then stats in illusion (16), then some in inspiration and whatevers left in domination and anything after that in curses. Or fast casting.

Francis Demeules

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada, Qc

[Holy]

Me/Mo

19 Jan 2006 at 21:20 - 4

Yeah I tested the frag-pp-parasitic bond-shatter delusions-arcaneecho-virulence x 2

and I say one word: OUCH

. I rather use phantom pain and shatter delusion to help the warriors to finish off quickly an opponent. Its good in PvE and so-so in PvP. But in PvP, I rather use my Illusion weapon set or my Mirror set.

I don't keep my Illusion lvl high because I mostly change my set when I'm in PvP.

holden

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

[NICE]

Mo/

19 Jan 2006 at 22:07 - 5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Francis Demeules

Yeah I tested the frag-pp-parasitic bond-shatter delusions-arcaneecho-virulence x 2

and I say one word: OUCH

. I rather use phantom pain and shatter delusion to help the warriors to finish off quickly an opponent. Its good in PvE and so-so in PvP. But in PvP, I rather use my Illusion weapon set or my Mirror set.

I don't keep my Illusion lvl high because I mostly change my set when I'm in PvP.
the phantom pain/shatter delusion is tuff. you can add shatter enchantment as well.
drain enchantment and power drain are great to get energy back.
diversion is great

domination and inspiration are nicenicenice together

Francis Demeules

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada, Qc

[Holy]

Me/Mo

20 Jan 2006 at 01:02 - 6

My Mirror build is domination and inspiration but it require alot of patience and timing. Anyway, I found the Fragiler is good to kill or try to get some time from healer. I mean, keeping the ennemy monk busy on himself while using some power spell (Drain, Spike or Leak) and remove enchantment (Rend enchatment, Shatter enchantment or Inspired enchantment). So keeping the ennemy to heal himself and not his team.

For those who are curious about the Mirror build, it is created to take Hex and enchantment and use it to do dmg or weaken the enemy.

arredondo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

20 Jan 2006 at 05:12 - 7

Wow, it's been months since I've posted here and this is the first thread I see.

Anyway, Fragility/Virulence was one of a number of unique but effective builds I put up here (way back in July, how time flies). However, since the Mesmer Nerf of '05 took place, this and quite a few of my other killer combos don't work nearly as well as they used to. Oh well... I haven't played GW in a long time, but here's hoping that the new skills in Factions are worth the effort.

Francis Demeules

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada, Qc

[Holy]

Me/Mo

21 Jan 2006 at 16:55 - 8

It's been a while I don't play my mesmer because of the PVP Event and new classes

. And I love playing the template ''Fang of Melandru'' when I am one-on-one with a assassin

.

And yes, the big problem is you have the ½ of the skill slot to have support on your side. If I take Ether feast and Energy tap, this let me only 2 slot. I have tooooooooo much choice that I want to take with me. Off course Arcane echo is a good support of the Fragiler.

When the time passes, I really think to recreate my mesmer. I love Fragiler build, but I want to try more my Mirror set in PvP...... when the Event ends off course.

boxterduke

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Walking the ruins of Ascalon

DVDF

Me/

23 Jan 2006 at 14:18 - 9

You can save 2 slots by just using Fragility+Enfeeble+Virulence+Epidemic.
This way you do not have to use Phantom Pain+Shatter Delusions (to get the condition)

arredondo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

24 Jan 2006 at 01:39 - 10

Do that and you sacrifice up to 40% of the damage. PP+SD is an amazingly strong damage dealer for the cost and cast speed.

SnipiousMax

Perfectly Elocuted

Join Date: Sep 2005

24 Jan 2006 at 03:32 - 11

What was nerfed about the Frag build...I'm new to the mesmer class. I've been playing around with this build, and I'm running outta energy. What would be good energy management skills to bring with this skill set?

Francis Demeules

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada, Qc

[Holy]

Me/Mo

26 Jan 2006 at 03:26 - 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnipiousMax

What was nerfed about the Frag build...I'm new to the mesmer class. I've been playing around with this build, and I'm running outta energy. What would be good energy management skills to bring with this skill set? Generaly, energy tap and energy drain is a must for many build. With this, I use energy drain.

Yes, it costs greatly (30 energy), but in exchange of that problem, you do over than 200 dmg in 2-3 seconds (including Deep wound)

I tested in PVP during the Event. This build can brings a monk down before he begins to heal himself. It a good support, but not good as the domination. Domination needs some patience for some spells. But this build is used to deal dmg almost instantly to bring down a FOE quickly.

Francis Demeules

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada, Qc

[Holy]

Me/Mo

26 Jan 2006 at 16:38 - 13

I forgot one thing: Energy Drain is an elite, so we can't take it because of virulence. Sorry for this.

arredondo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

30 Jan 2006 at 04:22 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnipiousMax

What was nerfed about the Frag build...I'm new to the mesmer class. I've been playing around with this build, and I'm running outta energy. What would be good energy management skills to bring with this skill set? Fragility used to inflict 34 damage for each condition coming on and off at L16 Illusion. I used to get 8-10 second kills on the unprepared back then.

Foppe

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

COLD, Cold Snap

30 Jan 2006 at 11:53 - 15

I'd go 16 illusion. The damage u deal @ 14 isnt like WOW, 16 is better already.

Francis Demeules

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada, Qc

[Holy]

Me/Mo

31 Jan 2006 at 05:39 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by arredondo

Fragility used to inflict 34 damage for each condition coming on and off at L16 Illusion. I used to get 8-10 second kills on the unprepared back then.
Fragility has been lowered in dmg since the balanced skills update. It's now 21 dmg at lvl 16

arredondo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

31 Jan 2006 at 07:54 - 17

Ergo, the phrase "used to inflict 34 damage".

QuixotesGhost

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

31 Jan 2006 at 17:07 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Francis Demeules

It's been a while I don't play my mesmer because of the PVP Event and new classes

. And I love playing the template ''Fang of Melandru'' when I am one-on-one with a assassin

.

And yes, the big problem is you have the ½ of the skill slot to have support on your side. If I take Ether feast and Energy tap, this let me only 2 slot. I have tooooooooo much choice that I want to take with me. Off course Arcane echo is a good support of the Fragiler.

When the time passes, I really think to recreate my mesmer. I love Fragiler build, but I want to try more my Mirror set in PvP...... when the Event ends off course.

Drain enchant is one the most reliable Energy Management tools there is. Not only does it strip enchants which most mesmers should be able to, with the popularity of Boon/Prot it's practically guarenteed you'll find a someone to eat enchants off of.

When I see Energy Tap, that's a big red sign to my mes that says "POWER LEAK HERE!"

Ju_Smurph

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

In a house

[TaB]

Me/N

01 Feb 2006 at 00:38 - 19

That was once a very fun build, ran it in teams with an eley smiting off an axe warrior, it took a team 3 times to stop our winning streak after designing a counter build. It was a very powerful build. The good ol' days eh.

I would really like to see someone utilise fevered dreams and epidemic abit more... see what they can come up with.

QuixotesGhost

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

01 Feb 2006 at 02:17 - 20

I think it would be cool to put Virulence on a necro and have the Mesmer elite be Fevered Dreams. Spread Fragility everywhere and do some mass degen on top of it.

Fragility
Phantom Pain
Shatter Delusion
Fevered Dreams (E)
Conjure Phantasm
(Energy Management)
(Energy Management)
Res Signet

Necro Death/Curses

Virulence (Elite)
Suffering
Faintheartedness
So on and so forth.

Tagteam on a target in a clump of guys and go nuts.
Take a ranger with concussion shot for even more fun.
You could even have the Illusion mes take Arcane conundrum to make sure the conc shot lands.

Francis Demeules

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada, Qc

[Holy]

Me/Mo

01 Feb 2006 at 15:28 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuixotesGhost

I think it would be cool to put Virulence on a necro and have the Mesmer elite be Fevered Dreams. Spread Fragility everywhere and do some mass degen on top of it. Came with an idea

I teamed up with my friend (wich he is another mesmer) lately. I asked to take Fevered Dreams because I havent cap and we took Arcane mimicry. I told him it was for testing (we had Fragility just in case).

I casted Fragility (My friend did the same for others targets), Phantom pain and Shatter delusion. My friend casted arcane mimicry on me to pick Virulence and I did the same for Fevered dreams.

After that, I casted Virulence, he casted Fevered dreams. After virulence was finish, he did Viruluence and I casted Fevered dreams.

Ju_Smurph

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

In a house

[TaB]

Me/N

02 Feb 2006 at 00:54 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Francis Demeules

Came with an idea

I teamed up with my friend (wich he is another mesmer) lately. I asked to take Fevered Dreams because I havent cap and we took Arcane mimicry. I told him it was for testing (we had Fragility just in case).

I casted Fragility (My friend did the same for others targets), Phantom pain and Shatter delusion. My friend casted arcane mimicry on me to pick Virulence and I did the same for Fevered dreams.

After that, I casted Virulence, he casted Fevered dreams. After virulence was finish, he did Viruluence and I casted Fevered dreams. so did it work or what?

Francis Demeules

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada, Qc

[Holy]

Me/Mo

02 Feb 2006 at 02:35 - 23

Sorry, I got a little crash here

Yes it works well. Of course it require some communication with that but I dont care when we hold Ctrl+ Skills and alway see ''I'm using....'' over 12-13 times in a row.

Not long ago, I asked a question to myself: Do I continue with this set or get into Domination?

The reason why I ask this question is about a green staff I got: The Illyana staff!

This mesmer haven't a superior rune now: all minor except the vigor what is major.

I like this build, but I like the spiker build too. If I choose Dom, then this thread will be useless... or maybe useful if ppl want to see wich build can do in Illusion with their new mesmers.

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

02 Feb 2006 at 16:50 - 24

Hi all, just started playing PvP during the Factions event so excuse the "noob" question:

Has anyone tried this build:

1. Arcane Echo
2. Phantom Pain
3. Glyph of Renewal
4. Shatter Delusions

Fill the rest with your preference.

Would this work?

CoRrRan

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

ZH, Netherlands

Sour Patch Kids [sP]

Me/

09 Feb 2006 at 19:52 - 25

Alright, it's a week old this thread, but mark my words, fragility will be back in chapter 2. Oh, the possibilities with an assassin, a mesmer, a necro, a fire elementalist and a ritualist. Jum.

Just make sure someone brings Signet of Humility+Mantra of Inscriptions for the Restore Condition/Martyr monk...

Can't wait till March 24th to test this build...