Equipment Master for PvP-only characters

Tuoba Hturt Eht

Tuoba Hturt Eht

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

Deimos Tel Arin [CCTV]

W/

Reference Threads:
07-15-2006 | Seef II | Suggestion for PvP Character creation screen - get rid of equipment imbalances
07-11-2006 | lyra_song | Equalize PvP and PvE chars in PVP modes.
06-03-2006 | bilateralrope | Lock the inventory window closed when in PvP


Equipment Masters for PvP-only characters
These various NPCs, placed at the Great Temple of Balthazar, will hand out various equipments for PvP-only characters, provided that those items have been unlocked.
NOTE: All skins are standard PVP, nothing spectacular.

1. Balthazar's Armor Smith
- All types of Armor sets

2. Balthazar's Rune Keeper
- All types of Runes

3. Balthazar's Weapons Master
- Swords, Hammers, Axes
- Bows, Daggers
- All weapon Upgrades
- Shields

4. Balthazar's Archmage
- Staves, Rods
- Staves Upgrades
- Focus Items

5. Balthazar's Sage
- Change 2nd Profession
- Usable by PvE characters as well

--------------------------------------
(A few people suggested that this one is un-necessary for the PvP-only characters)
(One suggested that Balthazar's Faction can be used to "buy" dyes for PvP-only characters)
(Sir Mad does not agree with this)
6. Balthazar's Dyes Distributer
- Dyes

All retrieved equipment will be customized to the PvP character who collected them.

Discuss.

Poll:
You like the idea described above and would like to see ANET implement a similar function. Yes / No

Yes (24)
=====
Tuoba Hturt Eht, Zui, zhai, bilateralrope, Frostie Arrows, reverse_oreo, TheOneMephisto, noob4sure, B Ephekt, TheGuildWarsPenguin, Embodiment Of Gaia, Nilator, TomD22, kazz, prism2525, Tetram The Troll, Afterimage, Beat_Go_Stick, Sphinx2k, Sir Mad, lyra_song, Big_L, PsychoX, Frantic-Sheep

No (0)
=====

The Primeval King

The Primeval King

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Theres A Frog On My [Cape]

W/

I agree with the Balthazar Equipment Master idea. Sometimes I want to change my build without having to re-create the whole character just because I need a different rune or different type of axe. The Uber Quick creation is a little weird.. you can just skip it if it really takes up that much time.

theclam

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

The weapon master is a good idea.

Vilaptca

Vilaptca

Pre-Searing Vanquisher

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

I haven't even PvPed until this week, and even I think this is necessary. It is incredibly annoying to change around a PvP character right now. Oops...messed up grabbed the wrong weapon, now I have to delete this character and remake it.

This suggestion could also use the make your own template idea. Saving your builds so that you can just quick choose it when you need it.

Tuoba Hturt Eht

Tuoba Hturt Eht

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

Deimos Tel Arin [CCTV]

W/

Revised the first post of this thread.

Now, let us collect all those "Yes" votes and pray hard that ANET will implement this? ANET would only make changes if there are enough demand for it.

Zui

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

Mo/

/signed twice for both accounts.

Even after months of knowing exactly what you want on PvP charactars that you're rerolling, you still make an occational mistake, and end up getting pissed off at having to reroll it again because you have a wrong rune, or the wrong headgear - or even forgot a suffix mod on a weapon.

zhai

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Poland

The Witchers

R/Me

/signed - Yes!

bilateralrope

bilateralrope

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Zealand

Xen Of Onslaught (Xen of the Pacific division)

I would prefer this to my idea (linked to in the OP) but I feel that my idea is eaiser to implement. But both options would kill all the advantages that PvE characters get over PvP characters, except for looks.

/signed

Frostie Arrows

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

America

Pro United Gamers[PuG]

/signed
this is a great idea

reverse_oreo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Scars Meadows [SmS] Officer (not recruiting)

/signed...

not the dye one though that is a pve thing, unles you wanna charge money or faction for the dyes

TheOneMephisto

TheOneMephisto

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

/signed for everything but the dyes. I think that PvE and PvP characters should be equal, but if you want to look good then you ahve to be PvE. Basically it should be:
PvP=all max stats with crappy looks
PvE=all max stats with crappy to awesome looks.

noob4sure

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

Middle of nowhere, U.S.A.

[LGBT]

A/

/signed

Having to reroll after making mistakes or if I want to change my build gets tedious and annoying.

B Ephekt

B Ephekt

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Team Crystalline [TC]

Mo/

I completely agree. Rerolling is a huge pain, especially since you can't save builds and 1/2 the people don't wait for you.

One thing I would like to add though, make the profession changer work for both pvp-only characters and pve characters. It's so annoying to have to leave pvp island just to change secondaries.

TheGuildWarsPenguin

TheGuildWarsPenguin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Los Angeles, California

Picnic Pioneers

E/

/yes
I hate rerolling.

TadaceAce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

this would take a lot of work to program. I think they have better things to do than this just cause people are too lazy to recreate.

Embodiment Of Gaia

Embodiment Of Gaia

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

The Netherlands

Djisora No Mon [DjiM]

W/E

/signed, except for the dye trader (that's just unnesecary)

Nice solution, and not too much work to program this, i think.

B Ephekt

B Ephekt

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Team Crystalline [TC]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by TadaceAce
this would take a lot of work to program. I think they have better things to do than this just cause people are too lazy to recreate.
Actually, if you know anything about programming, they could probably just modify the classes/functions used for the pve equillivents of these crafters.

And if you've ever been in HA, there is already a rune trader there (but it accepts gold). It's not like it's some huge task, and I honeslty have no idea why anyone would be opposed to game improvements. Devs get paid for this sort of thing, you know...

Nilator

Nilator

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/

/signed I have a prot monk, that I would love to be able to change to heal or whatever with out deleting him.

TomD22

TomD22

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Yes, yes, please! Anything that can allow me to change a char without having to reroll every 10 seconds. It's crazy that when making and changing builds the only way to do it is actually to log right out of the game, then long back in again (complete with typing password again etc) and then create a new character from scratch. Even worse if you just missed one rune or something, when you have to make an identical character all over again to change it. It's such an awkward system, a really crazy setup, and this could help to alleviate it a bit.

kazz

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Guildwars Nomads [Daii]

Mo/Me

/signed

I'd like this very much, too often I need one more weapon than the pvp screen lets me bring, so i have to customize my greens to pvp chars >.<

JR

JR

Re:tired

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/

Provided Anet fixes issues with getting stuck in maps, I would agree 100% with this. Having to use a weapon set for a Vampiric weapon (on a caster) just incase I get stuck in the ground would be a pain in the ass.

Also, on a related note; four weapon slots for PvP characters on creation.

prism2525

prism2525

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Among dead bodies.

The Republic of Sky Pirates

E/

/signed

I'm just fed up of having to reroll my poor pvp. He gets all dizzy and i lose

Tetram The Troll

Tetram The Troll

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Exxxcited French [TriK]

/signed

Afterimage

Afterimage

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

/singed
saves a lot of time

Tuoba Hturt Eht

Tuoba Hturt Eht

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

Deimos Tel Arin [CCTV]

W/

For the welfare of all players who actively re-rolls their PvP-only character, I hereby bump this thread back to the first page of Sardelac.

If anyone has any ideas to contribute to this thread, please do so.
Cheers.

Beat_Go_Stick

Beat_Go_Stick

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

/signed
/signed
/signed

Sphinx2k

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

/signed

it is annoying having to reroll my one pvp slot over and over again just becuz i wanted to try somthing new out in pvp and use a diff secondary. Maybe add somthing Trade 500faction to craft another weapon/get diff armour or runes to reduce ppl from abusing it plus would give the ppl who have unlock all there skills somthing to do with all those faction points they have.

Tuoba Hturt Eht

Tuoba Hturt Eht

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

Deimos Tel Arin [CCTV]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sphinx2k
Maybe add somthing Trade 500faction to craft another weapon/get diff armour or runes to reduce ppl from abusing it
I believe that would not be necessary at all, how could this function be abused? Those equipments are bounded to that PvP-only character, can only be used by that PvP-only character who collected the equipment, how could it be abused?
Quote:
plus would give the ppl who have unlock all there skills somthing to do with all those faction points they have.
Refer to this thread regarding Balthazar's faction and rewards.
Balthazar Faction & Shards ~ Amber/Jadite Title ~ Grenth Faction & Ectos

Sir Mad

Sir Mad

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Moe's Pub

Pigs Can Fly [Pigs]

R/

/signed for the weapons/armors dudes, provided they do take one of your weapons or you current armor set whenever you get a new one (yes, I think it's fair that players who have spent much time in PvE to get their equipment have the slight advantage of having several armor sets in their inventory and more weapons)

/notsigned for dyes: same reasons than above: let's leave this priviledge for PvEers: after sweat and tears need some kind of reward

Tuoba Hturt Eht

Tuoba Hturt Eht

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

Deimos Tel Arin [CCTV]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Mad
/signed for the weapons/armors dudes, provided they do take one of your weapons or you current armor set whenever you get a new one
I believe this change would totally defeat the whole purpose of having equipment masters for PvP-only characters.
Quote:
(yes, I think it's fair that players who have spent much time in PvE to get their equipment have the slight advantage of having several armor sets in their inventory and more weapons)
True, but I know many people would think otherwise, refer to the linked thread (now closed) and you will understand.
Quote:
/notsigned for dyes: same reasons than above: let's leave this priviledge for PvEers: after sweat and tears need some kind of reward
Perhaps the dyes obtained from the dye master cannot be mixed? How would that sound?

NOTE: I am PvEvPer, in case anyone of you were wondering.

Tuoba Hturt Eht

Tuoba Hturt Eht

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

Deimos Tel Arin [CCTV]

W/

A bit of a thread necromancy here, but it is necessary.
I saw a new thread which has issues that this thread has covered.
Plus, it is always good to receive new feedback from the community.

Discuss.

Tuoba Hturt Eht

Tuoba Hturt Eht

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

Deimos Tel Arin [CCTV]

W/

I can't believe this thread has not received any feedback, surely there must be more than just 20 PvP-only-characters players out there that support this idea?

Feedback requested.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

/signed

as long as the items use the PvP skins and not my precious precious rare stuff ;D

Big_L

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Spectral Agony [sA]

I'll /sign

lyra's ideas seem a bit more simple and follow along the lines of what Izzy was talking about on WoC, but I'll do this if it gets a better response (for whatever reason).

PsychoX

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

/signed

Frantic-Sheep

Frantic-Sheep

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Putting The Cute In Electrocute [ZZAP]

Mo/Me

/signed

Altho it should be the same offers as the char creation screen, nothing more nothing less. (Does this mean you can also stack various armors? Or carry more weapons than 2 etc.?) That would be a nice boost and close the gap a bit more between having a pve char for pvp, and just pvp created character.

Tuoba Hturt Eht

Tuoba Hturt Eht

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

Deimos Tel Arin [CCTV]

W/

Just 4 votes, that's it?
Well at least there are some votes of support this time.

Yes, the skins are standard PvP weapons skin, nothing spectucular.
More feedback is requested.

Regarding why I think locking out inventory during PvP is a bad idea, basically
it would make people unhappy, especially those who enjoy switching armor during PvP.

NOTE: I myself do not switch armor pieces during PvP combat, even though I PvP with my RPG characters.

Instead of making people unhappy, why not let us focus on making people happy?

I am certain the suggestions proposed in this topic will serve to make a large amount of PvPers who PvP with PvP-only characters very happy.

Where are they?
Why they did not come and support this proposed idea?

unholy guardian

unholy guardian

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Lost Haven

A/Mo

yes! rerolling is a pain!

Tuoba Hturt Eht

Tuoba Hturt Eht

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

Deimos Tel Arin [CCTV]

W/

Thread revival.
Feedback requested.

Tuoba Hturt Eht

Tuoba Hturt Eht

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

Deimos Tel Arin [CCTV]

W/

This is a post of appreciation to ANET.

Dear ANET,

Thank you for the updates.