IWAY still exists after many months of absence.
Why hasn't A.net done anything? I was hoping a game where people can just join in easily and help the casual gamer, but instead it's the same crap as before: only this time assassins will be spamming for hours as well as mesmers and rangers.
Well there goes my idea of purchasing the expansion
MarkyX
Loviatar
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IWAY still exists after many months of absence.
Why hasn't A.net done anything? I was hoping a game where people can just join in easily and help the casual gamer, but instead it's the same crap as before: only this time assassins will be spamming for hours as well as mesmers and rangers. |
hi did you hear there would be changes and rebalancing AFTER the tourney?
that means not yet as it still is on going.
this event is to get data on what needs changing (spirits maybe?) before retail.
this is an initial look at a work in progress not the final product.
give them some credit for not only repearing an error but bringing it back stronger
King's Spectre
Well they DID give you the chance to practice killing an IWAY team whenever you want to..
Elena
two words 1 template 2 profs warriors bane have this guy in youre team and iway would be like a kitty VS a nuclear warhead
sun is in us
Want to Nerf Iway?
Ward Against Melee
Shadow of Fear
Faintheartedness
Etc...Etc....Etc......
Mods......I believe the same posts over and over on the same IWAY rants are just a ways to pad post counts.
This horse is burned, tortured, bled, decapitated.
ALL IWAY COUNTERS ARE ALREADY IN GAME....GET THE HECK OVER IT ALREADY.
Ward Against Melee
Shadow of Fear
Faintheartedness
Etc...Etc....Etc......
Mods......I believe the same posts over and over on the same IWAY rants are just a ways to pad post counts.
This horse is burned, tortured, bled, decapitated.
ALL IWAY COUNTERS ARE ALREADY IN GAME....GET THE HECK OVER IT ALREADY.
Loviatar
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This horse is burned, tortured, bled, decapitated. . |
you forgot drawn and quartered but
Zakarr
What they can do if most of the players don't bother to learn how to encounter them? Should they lower difficulty bar until everyone have just bare hands which do 1-1 dmg?
IWAY means more health regeneration and attack speed per dead ally. Spiteful Spirit? Empathy? Evade? Block? Slow down attack speed? Slow down moving speed? Learn them or die by IWAY. Just like against any other teams if you don't know their weaknesses.
IWAY means more health regeneration and attack speed per dead ally. Spiteful Spirit? Empathy? Evade? Block? Slow down attack speed? Slow down moving speed? Learn them or die by IWAY. Just like against any other teams if you don't know their weaknesses.
Deathqueen
Since the IWAY team is now part of the AI teams in the arenas I doubt they will be nerfing IWAY now. It's a pretty fun AI group to go up against too. Glad to see Anet agrees with IWAY the way it is. (smile)
Silent
I don't get why people are always whining about IWAY, I never play PvP and even I know how to counter their strategies, even if IWAY is nerfed they'll just fine something else to whine about say say how it's ruining tombs....or heroes ascent whatever it is now.
Deathqueen
Yeah lets nerf Spiteful Spirit instead, I think it's too powerful. (smile)
KvanCetre
Oh man, you guys actually expect us to use STRATEGY against our opponents?!
To the OP - Go watch some matches in observer mode, especially regionals.
How many of those teams use IWAY? Yes, its SO OVERPOWERED that its not used by the best guilds.
To the OP - Go watch some matches in observer mode, especially regionals.
How many of those teams use IWAY? Yes, its SO OVERPOWERED that its not used by the best guilds.
fiery
o no another IWAY basher...been months.. read other threads before making anew... sucks the search button is down for a bit. or you would know what i would have said next.
Sereng Amaranth
trappers with interrupts are the best group i've seen so far for the elite challenge...of course a real IWAY team wouldn't rush into 20+ traps and die instantly
toastgodsupreme
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IWAY still exists after many months of absence.
Why hasn't A.net done anything? I was hoping a game where people can just join in easily and help the casual gamer, but instead it's the same crap as before: only this time assassins will be spamming for hours as well as mesmers and rangers. |
Let IWAY stay, it's not like it's not EASILY beatable. And you don't have to cripple your own team to beat IWAY either. Jesus christ.
Arcador
Sympathetic vissage - Warrior's hell (as with some other hexes + blind). Check out what does the skill. ONE SKILL can counter ~ 4,5 focused wars. Keep in mind there are LOT MORE skills that cripple physical attacks.
Sereng Amaranth
ward against melee
ward against foes
arcane echo/aegis
buh bye iway...an earth ele and prot mesmer owned you
ward against foes
arcane echo/aegis
buh bye iway...an earth ele and prot mesmer owned you
Okae
Am I the only one who was glad to see Anet put an Iway team in the Zaishen challenge? IMHO I think they implemented it so people would/could learn how to counter Iway in game instead of in forums. And to be frank, I thought it would end alot of the moaning about how overpowered it is. Sadly it isn't so.
So here's a specific build for all the lazy people who seem to still have problems going up against them. I use a necro/mesmer here it is:
Suffering - mass hex small degen
Enfeebling blood - causes weakness
Shadow of Fear - Mass hex slow down
Archane Echo
Feast of Corruption <elite> spike and small health buff
well of suffering or putrid (for corpse control as well as small spike or field control)
your choice
your choice
First Tip: As seen in alot of PVP matches when they go after your monk .. wait for some to ball up when they attack and then rinse, lather, and repeat as necessary. Watch the flies drop and your energy surge. Fun fun fun!
Second Tip: If you really feel it's rampant and can't stand going up against it why not invite someone into your team for Iway control. On a decent team you only need 1 person to make an Iway soldiers day really bad.
So here's a specific build for all the lazy people who seem to still have problems going up against them. I use a necro/mesmer here it is:
Suffering - mass hex small degen
Enfeebling blood - causes weakness
Shadow of Fear - Mass hex slow down
Archane Echo
Feast of Corruption <elite> spike and small health buff
well of suffering or putrid (for corpse control as well as small spike or field control)
your choice
your choice
First Tip: As seen in alot of PVP matches when they go after your monk .. wait for some to ball up when they attack and then rinse, lather, and repeat as necessary. Watch the flies drop and your energy surge. Fun fun fun!
Second Tip: If you really feel it's rampant and can't stand going up against it why not invite someone into your team for Iway control. On a decent team you only need 1 person to make an Iway soldiers day really bad.
Orbberius
Want to talk about unbalanced builds? Let's talk about ranger spike.
Maxiemonster
IWAY is very great, though, experienced IWAY groups don't excist, so why whine about IWAY?
gabeybaby
I happened to use tainted flesh with well of suffering and Enfeebling Blood. I think corpse explosion was in there too. I can play with corpses better than they can.
Lord Iowerth
Warriors that have some attack cohesion are SOOOO easy to counter ... so if you get a semi-skilled IWAY team (is that an oxymoron?) and they are all bashing one target, makes life so much easier:
Ele's: glimmering mark/blinding flash/wards
Rangers: throw dirt/dust trap and barrage, barrage, barrage.
Necros: spiteful spirit/suffering/faintheartedness
Messies: coordinate with a blind causer and epidemic, soothing images, etc
Monks(if you're the target):PBAoE smiting for damage, aegis
Other warriors even!: glad's defense, stances
I love that we can fight the computer-controlled IWAY team now too, although bashing the human ones has always been way more fun
Cheers, everyone and enjoy your PvP weekend!
Ele's: glimmering mark/blinding flash/wards
Rangers: throw dirt/dust trap and barrage, barrage, barrage.
Necros: spiteful spirit/suffering/faintheartedness
Messies: coordinate with a blind causer and epidemic, soothing images, etc
Monks(if you're the target):PBAoE smiting for damage, aegis
Other warriors even!: glad's defense, stances
I love that we can fight the computer-controlled IWAY team now too, although bashing the human ones has always been way more fun
Cheers, everyone and enjoy your PvP weekend!
derrtyboy69
Ward against melee, ward agaisnt foes. protect warder. use shadow of fear and spiteful spirit necro. IWAY is beaten.
Tyrent Frath
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MarkyX
So if IWAY so bad, why am I here with my new assassin dude that cannot get into a group because of IWAY?
Why buy the expansion when you can't use the class.
Why buy the expansion when you can't use the class.
Jetdoc
It's because IWAY is a no-brainer build, and it works because PUGs don't have any forethought as to protecting against it.
Most organized builds learned long ago what was said earlier - try to bring an earth elementalist and/or a protection mesmer in your party just in case you encounter it (which is likely in the early stages of getting to the HoH).
Most organized builds learned long ago what was said earlier - try to bring an earth elementalist and/or a protection mesmer in your party just in case you encounter it (which is likely in the early stages of getting to the HoH).
Lord Iowerth
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So if IWAY so bad, why am I here with my new assassin dude that cannot get into a group because of IWAY?
Why buy the expansion when you can't use the class. |
If you want to do tombs (or whatever the pants they're calling the new area): use a build you know and love, because any intelligent group leader is not going to take one of the new classes :P
/opinion
BellyFlop
its a crying game, all this
Savio
This has relatively little to do with the PvP Faction event and is just an old argument rehashed. Closed.