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Malick
I was looking forward to this event as im sure many people were. I spent hours downloading all the content. I play through the little tutorials which i don't need since i have GW and have been playing it for a WHILE only to find that this weekend is only for cable/dsl people. dial up takes FAR to long to get into PVP matches. By the time i download all the crap for the match i end up back in zaishen empire. Thanks for getting my hopes up and wasting hours of my time and leaving me unable to enjoy the preview.
MSecorsky
I'm sorry, but in today's day and age you're not going to find designers and games focused on the dial-up crowd anymore. Game technology is getting too far beyond that too fast. You will seriously need to consider upgrading.
Count Feanor
I agree. To enjoy any online game to the fullest, you need speed. Unfortunately, I don't think Anet can do anything about that for you.
Sereng Amaranth
yes, once you load the levels it goes the same as all the other maps
Rakeris
Yeah, I have them same problem, kind of anoying as in same cases it takes hours just to download the area =\
I was wondering, do you always have to download the places to go to normally? Like if I bought the game, would I have to download every area I go to? Or are they installed with the game?
I was wondering, do you always have to download the places to go to normally? Like if I bought the game, would I have to download every area I go to? Or are they installed with the game?
duverga
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Originally Posted by Rakeris
I was wondering, do you always have to download the places to go to normally? Like if I bought the game, would I have to download every area I go to? Or are they installed with the game?
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Malick
i went through all of the "areas" and all of the premade teams with henchmen. then when i tried to go with real people it never loaded... well it loaded me back to zaishen empire.
I guess my gripe could be considered "BITCHING" if it was read by a bitch. I was just sharing my concern that i am being outed from the game i have enjoyed playing for so long because i have dial up. I can't get cable/dsl because i move around alot so its not really a choice for me, i guess i can always play on the ethernet at school on my laptop :/
I guess my gripe could be considered "BITCHING" if it was read by a bitch. I was just sharing my concern that i am being outed from the game i have enjoyed playing for so long because i have dial up. I can't get cable/dsl because i move around alot so its not really a choice for me, i guess i can always play on the ethernet at school on my laptop :/
Rakeris
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Originally Posted by duverga
They are installed with the game, but there have been many updates since then. Maybe chapter 2 will include newer versions of the core files to ease downloading for new players.
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drowningfish999
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Originally Posted by Rakeris
Ok, thanks. Also there wouldn't by chance be a like a file you could download of all the areas? So one could download it at a friends house or something and then install it on your game, like a patch?
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Lord Iowerth
Do what I do when you know there is going to be a big patch: bring your computer to work or a friend's house and download the patch there ... otherwise: upgrade to high-speed like the rest of us.
Seriously it's getting very affordable, you can get a decent DSL connection now for 20-25$ a month.
Seriously it's getting very affordable, you can get a decent DSL connection now for 20-25$ a month.
drowningfish999
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Originally Posted by Lord Iowerth
Do what I do when you know there is going to be a big patch: bring your computer to work or a friend's house and download the patch there ... otherwise: upgrade to high-speed like the rest of us.
Seriously it's getting very affordable, you can get a decent DSL connection now for 20-25$ a month. |
LouAl
check into companies like comcast or qwest. often times they run promotions that give you $20-30/mo with now activation and no contract... I have been switching between cable and dsl now for a while (about 5 years) so that I can take advantage of all the great offers for new customers. I have always gotten the fastest speed offered and I haven't ever paid more than $30 per month (even 5 years ago)
another good resource is checking on dell's website. They often have exclusive deals that you can only sign up for through them, and you don't need to buy a new system!
Point is, look around and you can (usually) find high speed for $5-10/ mo more than dial up, especially if you don't 'need' the fastest connection.
another good resource is checking on dell's website. They often have exclusive deals that you can only sign up for through them, and you don't need to buy a new system!
Point is, look around and you can (usually) find high speed for $5-10/ mo more than dial up, especially if you don't 'need' the fastest connection.
Sereng Amaranth
There is a Blackberry phone out now with broadband access.
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PawnBoy
An upgrade to highspeed is not an option for many, especially those in rural areas. Often the only other alternative to dial up is satellite, which is expensive and has high latency, making it a poor candidate for gamers. Though, in all my experience with dial up and guildwars I have yet to encounter a problem...
Rakeris
Being able to afford dsl/cable is the least of my problems, I would be willing to pay 50-100$ a month to get it, but it's jus not offered in my area. I've been trying to get it for around 6 years now, but SBC is quite slow in extending their service area...
EternalTempest
Once C2 comes out on CD, Dialup users will have minimal downloading to do. It's people getting C1 now or the free trial that is really being affected. At least the game still plays with dial up.
Chaos Lord
When i heared abou this event i was excited but because i have dialup and cant use my computer for a limited amount of time each day this update is really pissing me off, I dont have enought time or bandwidth to download all the files for the beta and i cant play guildwars until I have.
twicky_kid
First off make sure your computer has the minimum system requirements to run the game.
Keep in mind those are the minimum and probly not optimal to acually run the game. That's why it says game experience may change during online play. Other factors like lag, server density, and your connection play major roles. First you have to have the computer to run it.
Keep in mind those are the minimum and probly not optimal to acually run the game. That's why it says game experience may change during online play. Other factors like lag, server density, and your connection play major roles. First you have to have the computer to run it.
Mandy Memory
Just keep playing...after you download the maps you dont have to download them again. My friend plays on 56k and beyond the first match in a place he is fine.
trancejeremy
I'm also on dial-up and screwed by this. Spent an hour downloading the patch, then when I tried to play (picked a character and tried to enter the game), I have 1300 files to download. Which would take years on dial up.
And before of any of you say anything, it's all I can get in my area. Even wireless isn't available at broadband speeds. And it's never been an issue before with GW.
Why the heck didn't A-net warn players not to bother if they have dial-up?
And before of any of you say anything, it's all I can get in my area. Even wireless isn't available at broadband speeds. And it's never been an issue before with GW.
Why the heck didn't A-net warn players not to bother if they have dial-up?
Kamatsu
*raises eyebrows* I'm on dial-up and not having any problems playing. Sure, the initial d/l took forever .. umm like 1-2 hours.. not sure exactly as I turned my monitor off and went and made and had dinner and watched TV for a bit, came back ~2 hours later and I was standing around looking like a dork all by own
About the only drama's I'm having now is having to d/l files everytime I hit an PVP arena I haven't been in since the update.. then I sit and have to wait for the files to d/l. I have to say I feel sorry for the people that I get grouped with.. having 1 teammember not there due to this..
But once I have the files, it's all fiune and dandy.. So I don't see why anyone on dial-up should think they are being excluded - unless your impatient or have extremely limited time.. you'll still be able to get hours of fun with the new classes...
About the only drama's I'm having now is having to d/l files everytime I hit an PVP arena I haven't been in since the update.. then I sit and have to wait for the files to d/l. I have to say I feel sorry for the people that I get grouped with.. having 1 teammember not there due to this..
But once I have the files, it's all fiune and dandy.. So I don't see why anyone on dial-up should think they are being excluded - unless your impatient or have extremely limited time.. you'll still be able to get hours of fun with the new classes...
stokey
Since we're on the subject of dial-up, how do you guys work GW with vent or TS? I'm also on dial-up and vent doesn't work for me at all. I always get error 7 when I try using it. TS on the other hand, works for me except when people start casting spells and using skills. I try lowering the bandwidth used by it but then it goes to the point where I can barely understand what the people on TS are saying.
Desthe
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Originally Posted by MSecorsky
I'm sorry, but in today's day and age you're not going to find designers and games focused on the dial-up crowd anymore. Game technology is getting too far beyond that too fast. You will seriously need to consider upgrading.
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Our problem is this. They plan these events, they know it'll require a massive download, yet they refuse to stream it to us far in advance. What is the use of this "streaming technology" if they don't use it? As of right now, every big update is just like a massive patch, something that Arena.net claimed streaming would avoid in past interviews.
This problem wouldn't be so prevalent if they just ninja'd the update files as we played say... a week or so in advance. It would be much better than slamming us with a huge PATCH on the day of the event. Something like this was suggested back in the original beta by myself and others, yet it seems to have gone ignored, or there is some logistical issue with it that I don't know about.
Now, to fellow dial-up users, we should be perfectly fine once the game is released on CD for us. Normal updates are kept very small and the only time we see these huge downloads is when we're basically getting an entirely new area, new classes, new skills, new icons, new animations... you get my drift. All of this comes on the install CD we will get when it's released.
All we can do is tough it out and hope to get some playtime in. Also, don't be intimidated by 1000+ files remaining, a lot of times they drop VERY fast in number after a little bit.
Lady Lozza
Dial up is a pain, but once all the map areas are loaded, then you shouldn't have a problem.
DarkerHelmet
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Originally Posted by drowningfish999
Yeah, I have SBC Yahoo DSL and get 200-300kbps for $15 a month, its a great deal, and to think I used to pay $10 a month for 3kbps...
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I pay 19Euro/month for a 4480kbps connection and it's not even the cheapest, though it is reliable. I started with 2000kbps 2 years ago for the same price, now it's doubled :P.
I guess it's hard to connect your vast country with fiber optic wire but it's a very welcome infrastructure, even to make business :P.
DarkerHelmet
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Originally Posted by trancejeremy
I'm also on dial-up and screwed by this. Spent an hour downloading the patch, then when I tried to play (picked a character and tried to enter the game), I have 1300 files to download. Which would take years on dial up.
And before of any of you say anything, it's all I can get in my area. Even wireless isn't available at broadband speeds. And it's never been an issue before with GW. Why the heck didn't A-net warn players not to bother if they have dial-up? |
Kamatsu
Satallite can be bloody expensive..
Just to compare.. and these prices I'm quoting might not be the most expensive, but they are around what you'd get over here..
Dial-up - $10/month unlimited d/l & u/l - 56K max connection.
512/128K ADSL - $39/month with 12 GB data limit (befor ebeing slowed down)
1500/256K ADSL - $59/month with 15 GB data limit.
1 way satillite (d/l via satillite, upload via modem) (and note, these cost's do *NOT* cover the dial-up connection.. this is just for the satillite connection. At least for the provider I'm quoting)
256K with 200 MB data - $50/month
512K with 500 MB Data - $60/month
512K with 2 GB Data - $80/month
2 way satillite (upload and download via satillite)
256/64K with 500 MB data - $105/month
512/128K with 500 MB Data - $125/month
512/128K with 2 GB Data - $250/month
800/128K with 4 GB Data - $500/month
So yeah, at least over here if you go by those prices.. there's no bloody way going full satillite is even to be considered.. unless you can fork out $500 a month on a connection slower than the fastest ADSL available over here..
Just to compare.. and these prices I'm quoting might not be the most expensive, but they are around what you'd get over here..
Dial-up - $10/month unlimited d/l & u/l - 56K max connection.
512/128K ADSL - $39/month with 12 GB data limit (befor ebeing slowed down)
1500/256K ADSL - $59/month with 15 GB data limit.
1 way satillite (d/l via satillite, upload via modem) (and note, these cost's do *NOT* cover the dial-up connection.. this is just for the satillite connection. At least for the provider I'm quoting)
256K with 200 MB data - $50/month
512K with 500 MB Data - $60/month
512K with 2 GB Data - $80/month
2 way satillite (upload and download via satillite)
256/64K with 500 MB data - $105/month
512/128K with 500 MB Data - $125/month
512/128K with 2 GB Data - $250/month
800/128K with 4 GB Data - $500/month
So yeah, at least over here if you go by those prices.. there's no bloody way going full satillite is even to be considered.. unless you can fork out $500 a month on a connection slower than the fastest ADSL available over here..
Plague
I'm on 21.6k. I downloaded all the maps ahead of time by warping into them with henches, so no one could complain. I did this three or so times since GW retardedlly insists on downloading even MORE information after you supposedly finish downloading the map the first time.
R. Mindwalker
Like DarkerHelmet sas, move to holland, The Netherlands. I pay only 25 euro's (thats around 30 dollars) for a 8 mb connection that doesnt fail. And they upgrade it like every year for free because of testingtrails of new kinds of DSL.
Now im at DSL 2 with 16 mb xD all for free.
BTW whats datalimit xD
Now im at DSL 2 with 16 mb xD all for free.
BTW whats datalimit xD
War Hound
i have a satellite connection and GW works great for me and is not as expensive as cable or dsl cost 34.99/month have mine through midwest wireless could be an option for those who have this company near them
drowningfish999
I pay $14.99 a month for 300k DSL from SBC Yahoo, its a great service, and you should consider getting it since its barely more expensive than dial-up.
Bane Darkhold
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Originally Posted by drowningfish999
...you should consider getting it...
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The saddest thing is that it still simply isn't available in so many areas. And yes, the U.S. is that far behind.
Cable and / or dsl is available within five miles of me, in every direction, but not here. Just out of range, no company considers it worth the money and man hours to extend service to this area.
And the bandwith restrictions, price and latency that I would have from our satillite provider actually makes dial up the better choice of the two.
In short, I'll have high(er) speed internet whan I move. Although I can certianly understand fellow D-uppers frustration and being "left out" of this event, I'm just thrilled GW supports dial up as well as it does. My party usually only has to wait a few seconds for me to materialize beside them. There are many games out there, and more coming, that don't support dial up at all.
We have to wait longer, we get left behind from time to time, and it gets frustrating. But I'm still thrilled with what GW has provided so far.