I saw an interview with Gaile Gray awhile back. A question about farming was raised and why Anet seemed to be taking a negative stance on it, the response was based on their information only about 10% of the population on Guild Wars had over 25k, and only 25% had over 10k, etc..
Now undoubtably this has changed in recent months, but really even if the price drops Fissure Armor isn't going be as common as Gladiator...I mean even though the price of fissure is steadily declining I don't know that there's "alot" more people that will be able to buy it. More likely than not the reason for the price drop could possibly be that the people who once hoarded the ectos already have their fissure armor, and just hold onto the ectos they have, so the demand has decreased thus making it a buyers market.
What's Up with ECTO Price Plunge?
JiggyFly
Ellington
I think the price drop is due to two things: ecto drops in the Tombs and speculation about a decrease in price with the release of Chapter 2. The impact of both will decrease in the short-term I think, as people stop farming Tombs so much and Chapter 2 is on their minds less.
As soon as another event occurs, I expect it to drop again though.
As soon as another event occurs, I expect it to drop again though.
temp
I <3 cheap ecto.
I too remember the days of old when FoW armour was for the skilled players, and yes it is sad to see nubs with it. But it is not their fault that people over farm. I probably am one of the worst for over farming, as soon as we have favour i'm in the UW with a monk [or a necro depending on what im playing as] farming constantly until we lose favour-and when we do i farm somewhere else to get money for Ecto. But hey if I have a build that gets me the purple globs i desire why shouldn't i use it? Ok so some of the people who own FoW armour are [lets be honests] t*ts, but it's their choice to buy it whether they bought money off ebay or earnt th money. I am upset by this, but as I am in the process of getting FoW myself [99ecto to go] i am happy with the price drop =D
my 2 cents
I too remember the days of old when FoW armour was for the skilled players, and yes it is sad to see nubs with it. But it is not their fault that people over farm. I probably am one of the worst for over farming, as soon as we have favour i'm in the UW with a monk [or a necro depending on what im playing as] farming constantly until we lose favour-and when we do i farm somewhere else to get money for Ecto. But hey if I have a build that gets me the purple globs i desire why shouldn't i use it? Ok so some of the people who own FoW armour are [lets be honests] t*ts, but it's their choice to buy it whether they bought money off ebay or earnt th money. I am upset by this, but as I am in the process of getting FoW myself [99ecto to go] i am happy with the price drop =D
my 2 cents
Tijger
I've also noticed that black dye is cheaper then I have seen if for a very long time, might be related to this 'issue'. I think a drop worth around 7K is a nice one for me, I dont have or want FoW armor so I sell ecto straight away.
Energizer Deth Buni
I have heard that Ecto and Shards will still be used in the next chapter for the new stuff? Any news or way to gauge that? I dont think the designers would just make everything useless? And why am I seeing shards in high demand today.. but not ectos?
Just keep letting him hit you over and over, Im using Spiteful... and if you do die I can make a fiend after that....
Just keep letting him hit you over and over, Im using Spiteful... and if you do die I can make a fiend after that....
Energizer Deth Buni
Posted by Jiggy Fly (not sure why my referencing not working right)
I saw an interview with Gaile Gray awhile back. A question about farming was raised and why Anet seemed to be taking a negative stance on it, the response was based on their information only about 10% of the population on Guild Wars had over 25k, and only 25% had over 10k, etc..
Well I played for months doing FOW before I discovered Greens and within the first week of g ORO farming I found Mals Shield twice... so the Holy Gaile blessed me or needs to consider why everyone is so poor.. 2 Malinons shield = 150K.
I saw an interview with Gaile Gray awhile back. A question about farming was raised and why Anet seemed to be taking a negative stance on it, the response was based on their information only about 10% of the population on Guild Wars had over 25k, and only 25% had over 10k, etc..
Well I played for months doing FOW before I discovered Greens and within the first week of g ORO farming I found Mals Shield twice... so the Holy Gaile blessed me or needs to consider why everyone is so poor.. 2 Malinons shield = 150K.
David Of Troy
I think the drop rates of ectos are because of the china farmers. IMO I think that they control the ectos' economy. I mean I see them buy/trade/scam ectos.
temp
ectos = cheap
temp = happy
temp = happy
heavenscloud2
the only reason why ectos are cheap is because the new UW requires no favor and no money. if they stop the ecto drop in the tombs Uw i think ecto would go back.
blablues
I don't know if ecto drops are all that common in new Tombs. Sunday(1/22) night EST I went in with 8 people, and only 2 people got ectos. But I suppose even those few drops are adding a lot to the overall amount with as many groups as are going in there in addition to continue farming of the original UW. (if the original UW is still up? lol I never bothered to look)
Takeko Nakano
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the only reason why ectos are cheap is because the new UW requires no favor and no money. if they stop the ecto drop in the tombs Uw i think ecto would go back.
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Tijger
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I don't know if ecto drops are all that common in new Tombs. Sunday(1/22) night EST I went in with 8 people, and only 2 people got ectos. But I suppose even those few drops are adding a lot to the overall amount with as many groups as are going in there in addition to continue farming of the original UW. (if the original UW is still up? lol I never bothered to look)
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Maybe someone who has experience farming UW solo can tell us how many drop on average but I imagine it might well be more then 3 and doesnt take 2-3 hours.
Jas
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You also have to take a sleep, go to work/school and try not to drop dead in front of pc.
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I gave that up when I bought GW, working I quit few months later and life... umm... I put it somewhere Quote:
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Originally Posted by cR4zY-n^
However, I smell ecto being used for Chapter 2 armor and then price will suddenly go up, and people that are so keen to sell their pile of ectos till price doesn't fall even more, will get double screwed. ^^
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What comes to Ectos - with my luck I have so far aquired 1 (yes... one) Ecto. And that was after a week of active UW'ing (more than 8hrs a day, over 60hrs a week). And that's it... never since have I gotten any, not in UW or the new Tombs.
That makes me wonder how much time do some people spend in UW to get the 100+ Ectos for their armor.
Alanus
I just don't understand how people can accumulate so much money in general. My primary Character is a Ranger, and you cant really do anything except go into trap groups (Which I see very rarely anyways). My warrior I made later on was created to farm griffons but when he got to Augry, BOOM, nerfed.(shouldnt have deleted my monk 
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The most gold I have every seen with me at one time was 40k, and slowly it was sapped away.
I have Droks armour (Druids) dyed green, a collectors long and short bow(with sub-par mods).
I never even tried to do a UW run till the new one came out and I have 2 ectos and 2 crappy greens(victos maul and koles gauntlet) after 10 runs through. (But trapping rangers barely lasted the weekend before they became shunned)
but still, maybe getting anything better in this game is more of a reality now.
)The most gold I have every seen with me at one time was 40k, and slowly it was sapped away.
I have Droks armour (Druids) dyed green, a collectors long and short bow(with sub-par mods).
I never even tried to do a UW run till the new one came out and I have 2 ectos and 2 crappy greens(victos maul and koles gauntlet) after 10 runs through. (But trapping rangers barely lasted the weekend before they became shunned)
but still, maybe getting anything better in this game is more of a reality now.
=HT=Ingram
Its called cheating by purchasing gold offline... I know for a FACT that there are several accounts that deserve to get wiped for doing this... But as long as they do it those companies keep ruining the game for everyone else... oh well This is why I have always avoided MMOs in general... Its just with GW being a no subscription system It was worth the pain in the butt dealing with them to play the game on occasion... Its just a shame people don't see the damage those types of operations are doing to the game... It would not be hard to get rich individually if anet didn't have to nerf many areas to all get out because of them... Now yea... its harder to get enough money for elite items.. so I don't worry about that stuff anymore... I play the game just as well with a perfect purple as I do with a elite green. If I get a green thats useful great. If I cant use it and someone in my guild can. its theirs.. but sell it. Prob not till a good auction system is created... Although gurus auction web-page is prob the best I have seen anywhere so far. kudos to them for that...
ingram...
ingram...
shadowfell
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Then sell em, you'll still make a ton of gold...
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But I will say one thing, I give away a lot of free stuff to new players, and not junk either, just because I can afford to.. so I guess that is not being greedy a bit.
Ju_Smurph
When people stop buying and invest, the prices drop... Thats all there is to it... there are many reasons for this... faster money elsewhere, people are saving for chapter 2... Gems are the new investment item. Everybody does there own thing for their own reason, but i honestly see the price going very low come chapter 2....
Lady Lozza
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Originally Posted by Tijger
Highest amount of ectos I've seen in a single mission was 3 in an 8 man party, I've never gone solo farming in the 'old' UW but I imagine that you'd get more there then in the new UW.
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As for the new UW, I've never seen more than 1 ecto drop on the one trip, and sometimes not even that.
The Herbalizer
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plasmasword
It's going to be so funny if theres a seperate storage agency in the new continent(I HAVE 1000K AND 300 SAPPHIRES AND RUBIES IN MY STORAGE WHY CANT I SEE THEM? Oh wait its not a Xunlai Agent...).
Jiao Yang
do people have all these gems because its the best way to store your money after 1.4mil? I cant see how u can find so many...
Bit off topic soz... heres my bit:
does the price of materials and runes change because of what players do (buying, selling) or what Anet do?
Bit off topic soz... heres my bit:
does the price of materials and runes change because of what players do (buying, selling) or what Anet do?
Shut Your Mouth
I personally think the only reason Ecto,Sup Absorp, Sup Vigor prices are on the fall is purely based on supply and demand. Nothing new to do and not long ago only monk's were able to efficiently farm Ecto's. Now you have Monks and necros doing it.
Ecto was 16k when only monk's could farm them.
Ecto is 8k now that monks and necros farm them
Hmmm twice as many farmers half price. makes no since to me lol
Same goes for Sup runes everyone is at end game, so it only makes since to start farming for the stuff that build's you ingame bank.
Supply and demand rules economy!
Ecto was 16k when only monk's could farm them.
Ecto is 8k now that monks and necros farm them
Hmmm twice as many farmers half price. makes no since to me lol
Same goes for Sup runes everyone is at end game, so it only makes since to start farming for the stuff that build's you ingame bank.
Supply and demand rules economy!
animeba
simple reason for ecto price drop:
ecto & shards used to be exclusive material currency for the game.
now people are investing in sapphire & rubies as alternative currency. Spending more gold on those means less demand for ecto => lower ecto price. When people see ecto prices drop, it leads to mass panic and selloffs. Sort of like stock market crash.
ecto & shards used to be exclusive material currency for the game.
now people are investing in sapphire & rubies as alternative currency. Spending more gold on those means less demand for ecto => lower ecto price. When people see ecto prices drop, it leads to mass panic and selloffs. Sort of like stock market crash.
Shut Your Mouth
lol well we have a couple month's until ch2. plenty of time to get your bank up for the new stuff. Every one of the Trader/Farmers in this game wants something that noone uses to become valuable. Rubies and sapphires I believe are just a speculation, they will most likely be just as worthless as ever!
Ju_Smurph
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do people have all these gems because its the best way to store your money after 1.4mil? I cant see how u can find so many...
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twicky_kid
People are cashing in their ecto for gold. Gold is still the currency of the game and probly always will be. The drop in price created a scare and others sold off.
Runes are dropping because people are deleting characters for more slots for chapter 2 and cashed them in for gold while prices was still high. Selling them to merchant lowered the price. Only reason sup abosorption went high in the first place was because aoe nerf caused a spike in w/mo farmers. All the runes prices are based on farming classes.
I saw SS not be affected by aoe nerf so I bought all the curse runes I could at 200g each. Sold them all back for 1k each. See how the market works and adjust to future changes and you can make some major gold.
Runes are dropping because people are deleting characters for more slots for chapter 2 and cashed them in for gold while prices was still high. Selling them to merchant lowered the price. Only reason sup abosorption went high in the first place was because aoe nerf caused a spike in w/mo farmers. All the runes prices are based on farming classes.
I saw SS not be affected by aoe nerf so I bought all the curse runes I could at 200g each. Sold them all back for 1k each. See how the market works and adjust to future changes and you can make some major gold.
Mavrik
thats right, keep those prices falling! Whooo! maybe I can get FOW armor after all.
Keyote
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I too remember the days of old when FoW armour was for the skilled players, and yes it is sad to see nubs with it.
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You need a reality check if you think where you hunt has any relation to skill. All PvE is easy, so by your logic everyone who does it is a nub.
Lord Dobo
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How was FoW armor ever for 'skilled' players?
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Anyways, I'm curious, just like the guy above. Does anyone know the math behind the trader prices? I've posted that question elsewhere, but I don't actually beleive anyone knows for sure. I think that little piece of the puzzle could be worth alot in understanding what is going on with the prices of materials.
And didn't people start picking up gems because of what Gaile said? Did she ever confirm anything? I hope you guys don't loose out on a fortune over a rumor.
shadowfell
All I know is I need to find something to invest in, because not being able to buy or sell anything because you simply cannot hold anymore, anywhere.. is bad. Ectos aren't striking me as a safe bet and there might be a huge loss in gem purchases if the new armor doesn't require them.... Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Gott Wood
I have been in the underworld a total of 6 trips in the past 3 days and no ectos......The guys in my party got two.....two total in six trips. I dont get it. I here all these people saying how easy it is. I still need 30 more ectos.
I refuse to buy gold off ebay to buy armor....I have 1200 hours of play and still cant afford my fissure armor.
I refuse to buy gold off ebay to buy armor....I have 1200 hours of play and still cant afford my fissure armor.
Rayne Nightfyre
I believe that they will stay at a fixed price at some point, possibly 6k from trader, 4.5-5k trade value. People are still going to go for Chapter 1 Fissure armor, so the price will have to stop falling sometime. It would be awesome to get myself a set for my Mesmer, but if you can just buy them for 500g each, there's really no satisfaction in having Fissure armor.
Keyote
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I have 1200 hours of play and still cant afford my fissure armor.
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SilentAssassin
offcourse there is satisfaction when you buy FoW armour for lets say 100k, you can show of and say:
"look at me I got my FoW armour 1.4 million cheaper then you"
Would be funny how ppl would react when suddenly price of FoW drops
"look at me I got my FoW armour 1.4 million cheaper then you"
Would be funny how ppl would react when suddenly price of FoW drops
onilink
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I believe that they will stay at a fixed price at some point, possibly 6k from trader, 4.5-5k trade value. People are still going to go for Chapter 1 Fissure armor, so the price will have to stop falling sometime. It would be awesome to get myself a set for my Mesmer, but if you can just buy them for 500g each, there's really no satisfaction in having Fissure armor.
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Effendi Westland
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Well, not any more satisfaction than what you'd get from 15k armor, and from finishing the quests to unlock the forgemaster. I think that if the prices went down that low, Anet would have a problem with all the current wearers of fissure armor (myself included) boycotting their future chapters. But then, they haven't seemed all that worried about angry rich people in the past.........
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And a boycot because if it, how sad.
lg5000
That leads to the question of how many people spent endless hours farming and how many opted for ebay money to get fissure, or held hoh (which, apparently, can make you rich?)
Is it a sign that you're a good player? Hardly.
Is it a sign that you're a good player? Hardly.
heavenscloud2
since ecto seems to be staying at 6k-7k, i'd say u still need alot of money to buy fissure armor. each fissure set needs 105 ectos and 105 shards. i'll just keep playing and barrage my way through tombs and hope for mutiple victo's bulwarks. play UW or FoW or tombs and hope for something good from those chests it ur main way of money after u finish the game
ThorgallSpotswood
Let ecto go down. Who cares?
onilink
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that reeks of protectorism, i got this FoW armor and am rich, dont want anything to disturb my wealth. how conservative. GW is a living breathing world, things will change, if you like it or not.
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