Ok my grammer isnt the best but check this out

The one Casey Squid

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Ok im no whiz in the grammer department but I think somethings up here.

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It can be properly worded,
"...if it hits and causes target foe..."

or,
"...if it hits, causing target foe..."

Also, it's grammar. Grammer is a company that makes seats for vehicles.

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haha like I said not my best spot d=

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English sounds funny.

Lady Lozza

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To get super technical it should be: "if it hits, and causes..." or "if it hits, causing..."

berko

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I believe it is worded right since in English there can't be a comma in front of "and" as far as I know, but it would also work if they made it "if it hits, causing..."

Mathias Deathwater

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In English there can't be a comma in front of and?! You mean after "and" methinks.

Omega_2005

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UK, or is it? *confused*

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or what about "if it hits, it will also cause..."?

Josh

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Quote:
Originally Posted by berko
I believe it is worded right since in English there can't be a comma in front of "and" as far as I know, but it would also work if they made it "if it hits, causing..."
Yes there can, example;

Person 1: Hey I got a new Mobile today!
Person 2: And, what's your point?

Wasn't it originally, or it should be: ?

Target foe is struck for X cold damage and moves 66% slower for X seconds.

berko

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Ok, yes there can be, but in this case it's not really necessary and to me it makes perfect sense.
or maybe I should put...........................not really necessary, and to me it makes perfect sense.(?)


Some research:
http://www.getitwriteonline.com/archive/020204.htm
http://dictionary.reference.com/help...e/c/comma.html
http://www.getitwriteonline.com/archive/021201.htm

Oh and Josh.....in your example, the comma is after "and" which is not what I meant.
Sorry for any misunderstanding guys, I really didn't mean to upset anyone, just trying to post my opinion.

Lady Lozza

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Quote:
Originally Posted by berko
I believe it is worded right since in English there can't be a comma in front of "and" as far as I know, but it would also work if they made it "if it hits, causing..." Hate to disappoint you, but if you speak English (as opposed to Microsoft Speak) then a comma MUST BE USED IN LISTING. Not using a comma implies grouping. For example:

1) I received a letter, a parcel, and a bill.
-> I received a letter, I received a pacel, I received a bill.

2) I received a letter, and a parcel and bill.
-> I received a letter, I received a parcel and bill
This construction (grouping) means that the bill was received with the pacel and is associated with it. Most would take it to mean that the bill payable was for the pacel.

In the context of this skill it is a listing, not a grouping: it causes x effect, and x effect.

Colloquially the comma MAY be left out in listings of two, but grammatically it should be included.

In case of doubt there is a little trick to using commas. Read the sentence out loud. If you make a pause, place a comma.

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Quick! Someone bring in Tyria's Union of English Teachers! LOL

Fungus Amongus

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Here's another one that slipped past the proofreaders:

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lets be honest they just got it blatently wrong! I loved the last one btw thanks for that

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onlyable, looks like george w. is also trying to take over the gaming industry with his commander and chief powers

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Lozza
Hate to disappoint you, but if you speak English (as opposed to Microsoft Speak) then a comma MUST BE USED IN LISTING. Not using a comma implies grouping. For example:

2) I received a letter, and a parcel and bill.
-> I received a letter, I received a parcel and bill
This construction (grouping) means that the bill was received with the pacel and is associated with it.
Actually there's no MUST about it, it's purely conditional. The comma before the final 'and' in a list is only used to avoid confusion in certain structures. It's perfectly acceptable to omit it provided there's no ambiguity. The main thing that implies grouping in your sentence is the fact the first two items were preceeded with "I receieved a" and the third wasn't.

A better example would be: "I received a letter and a parcel and a bill". The ambiguity there would be that you could group any two of these or all three together. The sentence "I received a letter, and a parcel and a bill" would suggest the second two are grouped. You could also group the second two by omiting the 'a' from 'a bill', as in "I received a letter and a parcel and bill".

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Lozza
Colloquially the comma MAY be left out in listings of two, but grammatically it should be included. Also wrong. The comma is used to avoid ambiguity. Please tell me how you could possibly confuse the grouping of TWO items.

Is "Egg and Bacon" any different from "Egg, and Bacon"?

I'm not usually one for being pedantic but I hate to see misinformation put so strongly. For once I'm making a rant that is actually on-topic.

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i dont see anything wrong...


(i failed english XD)

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Holy dead threads, Batman!

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Jesus I completely forgot about this...

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Someone has a grammar exam and needs a thread to discuss and revise

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It makes sense if you look at it correctly, you know with two eyes and a brain. You could get really technical, but it works.