Assassin Armor / Ritualist Armor
Turbo Wombat
For the mostpart, I think the assassin armors look allright for what they are supposed to be. My only complaint is that male Zodiac armor is a little monotone in comparison with the others which are more black/(other color) and look better as a result. Though, I still wear the zodiac for the energy. Otherwise I can't pull off my full combo
Nevin
I'll be the first to start a petition in this thread..
Give the assassins more veriety, following the guidelines set by the opinions in this thread. /signed
Give the assassins more veriety, following the guidelines set by the opinions in this thread. /signed
Maiyn
I really liked the ritualist armor, and the assassin is cool too, but I mean.. we'll just have to wait and see when the expo arrives 
Shoujo
I would love to have scarfs, more hairstyles, more themes for outfits. Hope this includes female assassins as well
/signed
I hope there's a female scarred assassin as well, though I'm guessing I'd be in the minority.
/signed
I hope there's a female scarred assassin as well, though I'm guessing I'd be in the minority.
LaserLight
Okay, let's review a Factions fact here.
"The core classes get an additional half dozen sets of armor".
Even assuming that this only means one new suit of armor for each class, that's five sets a class if I remember correctly. Given that...why is everyone so gosh-darn POSITIVE that the three sets the Assassin have are IT? Not only has it been mentioned that we'll get 15K and FoW armors, but that leaves two more suits of armor for Assassins that haven't been revealed in the least. SO stop worrying! And as for blades and tight suits being out of place...you make my female Assassin give up her Infiltrator's gloves and boots and I'll put my butterfly knife right up your behind :-P.
And on the recent note, I am in total agreement that Assassins need a much wider variety of hair styles, hair colors, and faces. I ran the Kakashi look on my males because it was pretty much the only option that wasn't completely meh, and females weren't much better. You either ran short, spiked hair with headband or short spiked hair without headband. Blah.
Send the Assassins to the Barber Shop! XP
"The core classes get an additional half dozen sets of armor".
Even assuming that this only means one new suit of armor for each class, that's five sets a class if I remember correctly. Given that...why is everyone so gosh-darn POSITIVE that the three sets the Assassin have are IT? Not only has it been mentioned that we'll get 15K and FoW armors, but that leaves two more suits of armor for Assassins that haven't been revealed in the least. SO stop worrying! And as for blades and tight suits being out of place...you make my female Assassin give up her Infiltrator's gloves and boots and I'll put my butterfly knife right up your behind :-P.
And on the recent note, I am in total agreement that Assassins need a much wider variety of hair styles, hair colors, and faces. I ran the Kakashi look on my males because it was pretty much the only option that wasn't completely meh, and females weren't much better. You either ran short, spiked hair with headband or short spiked hair without headband. Blah.
Send the Assassins to the Barber Shop! XP
Nevin
Heh, The hairs need more style, they need to be, say less realistic. Assassins should be mysterious but have their own sense of bizzare style. Thats why anime artists draw the hair the way they do, it gives people distinct looks.
And besides that, I know there aren't just 3 armors, I'm not complaining about that. I'm complaining about how bad those three armors look, The style should be ditched and completely replaced (Rant rant rant). Well not entirely they put a lot of work into those models, I suggest just changing the textures a little for the current ones, tweeking them to look less futuristic and more feudal. Maybe a long coat or something to add bulk would be nice too, like the 15k Druid armor.
Woop, lightning just struck my head. A brilliant way to reduce the "skin tight" look, is to simply puff out the pants when they enter the boots.
And besides that, I know there aren't just 3 armors, I'm not complaining about that. I'm complaining about how bad those three armors look, The style should be ditched and completely replaced (Rant rant rant). Well not entirely they put a lot of work into those models, I suggest just changing the textures a little for the current ones, tweeking them to look less futuristic and more feudal. Maybe a long coat or something to add bulk would be nice too, like the 15k Druid armor.
Woop, lightning just struck my head. A brilliant way to reduce the "skin tight" look, is to simply puff out the pants when they enter the boots.
S H I N O B I
I'm all for keeping the 3 current assassin armors as is (for the people who love them), as long as we get more "traditional" (ninja) armor as one of the options... I also agree with a petition of having more available head types/hair styles, maybe other variations of the "naruto-headband" option...
Pics from Iga Ueno website: (link: http://www.k3.dion.ne.jp/~ashura/ ) Feel free to look around for some ideas...
With that said....
/signed
Pics from Iga Ueno website: (link: http://www.k3.dion.ne.jp/~ashura/ ) Feel free to look around for some ideas...
With that said....
/signed
LaserLight
Come on guys. Do you really want to be walking around in mottled, detail-less pajamas? Because that's what classic real-world ninjas wore on the job. Let me tell you, after putting four hundred hours into playing with that char, you're going to be begging for even a single shuriken to relieve the bedtime flavor :-P
I do wish they'd given the Assassin a different headgear piece, though...would really have liked a reed-hat thing instead of a particle mask with funky designs >_>. And I reiterate: you take away my Infiltrator's gloves and boots and I'm finding a new sheath for my butterfly knives.
Face it guys. People want flashy, stylistic, and outrageous more than they want historically accurate. Unless you play Koei games >_<
I do wish they'd given the Assassin a different headgear piece, though...would really have liked a reed-hat thing instead of a particle mask with funky designs >_>. And I reiterate: you take away my Infiltrator's gloves and boots and I'm finding a new sheath for my butterfly knives.
Face it guys. People want flashy, stylistic, and outrageous more than they want historically accurate. Unless you play Koei games >_<
Nevin
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Originally Posted by LaserLight
Come on guys. Do you really want to be walking around in mottled, detail-less pajamas? Because that's what classic real-world ninjas wore on the job. Let me tell you, after putting four hundred hours into playing with that char, you're going to be begging for even a single shuriken to relieve the bedtime flavor :-P
I do wish they'd given the Assassin a different headgear piece, though...would really have liked a reed-hat thing instead of a particle mask with funky designs >_>. And I reiterate: you take away my Infiltrator's gloves and boots and I'm finding a new sheath for my butterfly knives. Face it guys. People want flashy, stylistic, and outrageous more than they want historically accurate. Unless you play Koei games >_< |
S H I N O B I
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Originally Posted by LaserLight
Come on guys. Do you really want to be walking around in mottled, detail-less pajamas?
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Yes I do. I'd rather run around in w/ cool baggy ninja pajamas then strut around in Dominatrix armor (It might look ok on females, but it looks hella ghey on males... I mean c'mon? who wants to see a male belly button? Infiltrator's vest looks like a male bra...) But hey, if you like that look, then go for it. You don't have to wear the "mottled" ninja pajamas if you don't want to, we just want that option so we don't have to be forced to wear something we think looks nasty.
Teufel Eldritch
Frankly I find the whole "ninja thing" silly. They are assassins, not ninjas. If they were ninjas the profession title would be.... Ninja. And don't give me that crap about Ninjas being assassins because that was not there only function. If anything they were special op soldiers.
Hmmmm I wonder what female assassin FoW armor would look like?
Hmmmm I wonder what female assassin FoW armor would look like?
Rikimaru
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Originally Posted by Teufel Eldritch
Frankly I find the whole "ninja thing" silly. They are assassins, not ninjas. If they were ninjas the profession title would be.... Ninja. And don't give me that crap about Ninjas being assassins because that was not there only function. If anything they were special op soldiers.
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So, i'll say something like what i've already said; quit being a dumass!
Vilaptca
Have you guys not seen the armor we have on Necromancers? This armor fits in with the game more than a "typical ninja" garb would. And its very, very late for a petition to be started to change how an armor set looks. They are much busier with other things than to worry about pleasing people who want to be ninjas.
Rikimaru
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Originally Posted by Nevin
Heh, The hairs need more style, they need to be, say less realistic. Assassins should be mysterious but have their own sense of bizzare style. Thats why anime artists draw the hair the way they do, it gives people distinct looks.
And besides that, I know there aren't just 3 armors, I'm not complaining about that. I'm complaining about how bad those three armors look, The style should be ditched and completely replaced (Rant rant rant). Well not entirely they put a lot of work into those models, I suggest just changing the textures a little for the current ones, tweeking them to look less futuristic and more feudal. Maybe a long coat or something to add bulk would be nice too, like the 15k Druid armor. Woop, lightning just struck my head. A brilliant way to reduce the "skin tight" look, is to simply puff out the pants when they enter the boots. |
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boxterduke
Other than the cool skills the Assassin has I did not like its model for either the male of the female.
Female is just too skinny, and maybe thats why I never paid attention to the armor.
On the other hand, everything about the Ritualists down to their armor and animations are great.
Female is just too skinny, and maybe thats why I never paid attention to the armor.
On the other hand, everything about the Ritualists down to their armor and animations are great.
S H I N O B I
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Originally Posted by Teufel Eldritch
Frankly I find the whole "ninja thing" silly. They are assassins, not ninjas. If they were ninjas the profession title would be.... Ninja. And don't give me that crap about Ninjas being assassins because that was not there only function. If anything they were special op soldiers.
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LOL so an assassin should ONLY look like someone who goes to an S&M convention??? Give me a break. So in your opinion, if there were knights the profession should be KNIGHT, and not something vague like WARRIOR? Maybe they should add a GLADIATOR profession as well? You're not getting our point. We DID NOT SAY that assassins are ONLY NINJAS. We simply said that ninjas are assassins as well. We did not say that they were ONLY assassins. Are Warriors ONLY knights??? Can't a warrior be a Gladiator or Barbarian as well??? We'r petitioning to ADD a ninja theme armor, similar to how Warriors get the Gladiator, Knight, or Barbarian theme... Besides. take a look at the assassin's SKILL LIST. Most of the skills in Shadow Arts can be associated with ninja...
IMO, I find the whole butt hugger S&M assassin suits silly.... They are ASSASSINS, not p0rno stars....
Nevin
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Originally Posted by S H I N O B I
LOL so an assassin should ONLY look like someone who goes to an S&M convention??? Give me a break. So in your opinion, if there were knights the profession should be KNIGHT, and not something vague like WARRIOR? Maybe they should add a GLADIATOR profession as well? You're not getting our point. We DID NOT SAY that assassins are ONLY NINJAS. We simply said that ninjas are assassins as well. We did not say that they were ONLY assassins. Are Warriors ONLY knights??? Can't a warrior be a Gladiator or Barbarian as well??? We'r petitioning to ADD a ninja theme armor, similar to how Warriors get the Gladiator, Knight, or Barbarian theme... Besides. take a look at the assassin's SKILL LIST. Most of the skills in Shadow Arts can be associated with ninja...
IMO, I find the whole butt hugger S&M assassin suits silly.... They are ASSASSINS, not p0rno stars.... |
Warriors = Knights, Gladiators, Barbarians, Soldiers... A number of things...
So what we're saying is, there should be more options for the assassin as well.
Assassins = Thieves, Ninjas, Mercenary, Rogue... Etc etc...
Teufel Eldritch
No, I don't think a Assassin should only wear one type of armor/have one type of look(in fact I would LOVE a wide variety of types....don't know where the idea of me wanting only S&M stuff came from) but I do find everyones fascination with turning GW Assassins into ninjas from movies, anime, other games & even real life a bit to unoriginal & even stereotypical.
Can't we have a wide variety of Assassin armors/looks without replaying the same old same old ninja theme? C'mon now.
Can't we have a wide variety of Assassin armors/looks without replaying the same old same old ninja theme? C'mon now.
Rikimaru
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Originally Posted by Teufel Eldritch
No, I don't think a Assassin should only wear one type of armor/have one type of look(in fact I would LOVE a wide variety of types....don't know where the idea of me wanting only S&M stuff came from) but I do find everyones fascination with turning GW Assassins into ninjas from movies, anime, other games & even real life a bit to unoriginal & even stereotypical.
Can't we have a wide variety of Assassin armors/looks without replaying the same old same old ninja theme? C'mon now. |
Also, it's kindof ironic, but any class in the game could be considered a "warrior", thats as generic as it gets, lol.
SirJackassIII
We have seen the following armor sets:
- Zodiac (+ EN)
- Saboteur (forgot)
- Infiltrator (forgot as well)
We are missing:
- Regular base armor
- another armor with a special addition
- Collector's armor
- 15k versions of those 4
- FoW version
- Maybe they get 6 new armors as well, only available in Tyria (Chapter 1 land so to speak)
- Possible 15k versions of those 6 new armors as well
So that's 7 or maybe even 19 armors we still haven't seen. Though I doubt they'll get 6 more armors as well, since they get "only" 75 skills (or more if ANet was holding back during the Event).
So even if there's no ninja suit yet between the 6 armors we haven't seen, we can always keep nagging until we get 6 added armors which look like a ninja's pyjama because of "balance issues"
After all, the other classes would have more choice between their armors which might seem unfair...
I'll sign for ninja pyjamas though, as long as there are some things noticable (belt with a few sheathed knife,...).
- Zodiac (+ EN)
- Saboteur (forgot)
- Infiltrator (forgot as well)
We are missing:
- Regular base armor
- another armor with a special addition
- Collector's armor
- 15k versions of those 4
- FoW version
- Maybe they get 6 new armors as well, only available in Tyria (Chapter 1 land so to speak)
- Possible 15k versions of those 6 new armors as well
So that's 7 or maybe even 19 armors we still haven't seen. Though I doubt they'll get 6 more armors as well, since they get "only" 75 skills (or more if ANet was holding back during the Event).
So even if there's no ninja suit yet between the 6 armors we haven't seen, we can always keep nagging until we get 6 added armors which look like a ninja's pyjama because of "balance issues"
After all, the other classes would have more choice between their armors which might seem unfair...
I'll sign for ninja pyjamas though, as long as there are some things noticable (belt with a few sheathed knife,...).
S H I N O B I
Right on. Off course we don't want just plain old ninja PJ's... There's gotta be some detail or certain design to it. One can always liven up a dull ninja suit with some flair.
Take for example Both versions of Hattori Hanzo
(Samurai Warriors and Samurai Showdown),
Kotaro
(Onimusha),
and Ryu Hayabusa
(DoA/Ninja Gaiden series)
... All modified significantly but still derived from the same old common baggy ninja PJ :3
I trust Anet can and will pull through for us....
Take for example Both versions of Hattori Hanzo
(Samurai Warriors and Samurai Showdown),
Kotaro
(Onimusha),
and Ryu Hayabusa
(DoA/Ninja Gaiden series)
... All modified significantly but still derived from the same old common baggy ninja PJ :3
I trust Anet can and will pull through for us....
sartori
ninja pajamas......
you do realize that, with us able to dye our armor, this game would end up looking like an American Ninja sequel, dont you?
do you want to play American Ninja????? HUH????? DO YOU?????????????
as for the whole "what would an assassin really wear?" thing, am i the only one who noticed that the male necros would be stabbing themselves in the ears if they ever raised their arms? enough talk about the shiny blades alerting their prey and such things. our only concern should be: does it look good and fit their style?
practicallity is not really a factor.
you do realize that, with us able to dye our armor, this game would end up looking like an American Ninja sequel, dont you?
do you want to play American Ninja????? HUH????? DO YOU?????????????
as for the whole "what would an assassin really wear?" thing, am i the only one who noticed that the male necros would be stabbing themselves in the ears if they ever raised their arms? enough talk about the shiny blades alerting their prey and such things. our only concern should be: does it look good and fit their style?
practicallity is not really a factor.
Nevin
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We have seen the following armor sets:
- Zodiac (+ EN) - Saboteur (forgot) - Infiltrator (forgot as well) We are missing: - Regular base armor - another armor with a special addition - Collector's armor - 15k versions of those 4 - FoW version - Maybe they get 6 new armors as well, only available in Tyria (Chapter 1 land so to speak) - Possible 15k versions of those 6 new armors as well So that's 7 or maybe even 19 armors we still haven't seen. Though I doubt they'll get 6 more armors as well, since they get "only" 75 skills (or more if ANet was holding back during the Event). So even if there's no ninja suit yet between the 6 armors we haven't seen, we can always keep nagging until we get 6 added armors which look like a ninja's pyjama because of "balance issues" After all, the other classes would have more choice between their armors which might seem unfair... I'll sign for ninja pyjamas though, as long as there are some things noticable (belt with a few sheathed knife,...). |
S H I N O B I
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Originally Posted by sartori
ninja pajamas......
you do realize that, with us able to dye our armor, this game would end up looking like an American Ninja sequel, dont you? do you want to play American Ninja????? HUH????? DO YOU????????????? |
People have different tastes, and I'm all for the keeping the current armor you all so love, but not everyone likes what you like as you can see. In fact in your statement it seems you're implying that most people who choose assassin will PREFER the ninja armor over the current stuff and run around looking like "American Ninja". You don't have confidence in more people choosing your kind of armor over the boring ninja pajama armor?
As for ninja armor being "unoriginal" I find that the KNIGHT is the most unoriginal, stereotypical theme, since its been used on MMORPGs time and time again, yet no one complains.... From my recollection, only FINAL FANTASY XI has the "ninja" profession... and its a SUB-CLASS profession deriving from the core profession "Theif/Rogue" which is basically like an assassin... So to disqualify a "ninja theme" in GW simply because its "unoriginal/stereotypical" is null... Might as well disqualify the Warrior and Ranger professions too....
Teufel Eldritch
I'm not talking about getting rid of a whole profession...I just want some originality with the Assassin armor. Of course Rangers & Warriors are in the game, I'm not asking for a removal of the Assassin...just some original thought when it comes to the armor.
S H I N O B I
I understand where you're coming from, and I do awknowledge the current assassin armor being kind of original for an assassin (though I admit its not my cup of tea)... but I'm sure there are a great many people that appreciate a more homely "classic" look as well, much like how the people who have warriors want to build a more classic KNIGHT look (i/e buying Knights/Platemail over Gladiator, or Ascalon, etc...) ... I believe that having a choice of what type of armor "theme" to wear would be a great move for Anet, since it caters to both the people who like the current armor, and the people who want a more ninja-styled attire....
Rikimaru
I have a great idea for a type of assassin armor, or just an example of what it could be like, but I have no scanner, so I can't upload it, and I would have a pretty hard time describing it, lol.
So I guess this post is a little pointless. Except, since I was able to think of it, it is obviously possible to make a kindof half-ninja half-something else hybrid armor. Meh, maybe if anyone actually wants me to, I could try to desribe it.
-Edit- I'll try to make some use of this post, I agree with shinobi, they should make atleast 1-2 armors that are like Ninja armor, but different at the same time.
So I guess this post is a little pointless. Except, since I was able to think of it, it is obviously possible to make a kindof half-ninja half-something else hybrid armor. Meh, maybe if anyone actually wants me to, I could try to desribe it.
-Edit- I'll try to make some use of this post, I agree with shinobi, they should make atleast 1-2 armors that are like Ninja armor, but different at the same time.
Nevin
Shinobi, that edit should've been a new post. Nice images.
Rikimaru
Wow, I hope they get something similar to Kotaro.
S H I N O B I
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Shinobi, that edit should've been a new post. Nice images.
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Hibana of Oboro from Nightshade (Kunoichi)
The legs look good, since they're not as skinny as the female assassin in GW so it looks kinda baggy... (she got some thunder thighs)
S H I N O B I
This funny commercial also has an interesting but kind of dull ninja attire... still looks pretty cool though...
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/32967/good_partner/#top
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/32967/good_partner/#top
Rikimaru
I was looking through the fan art and came across one of the ones by Shinobi of a female R/W, and realized that it would be cool as HELL if one of the assassin dagger types are Kunai, even though you couldn't throw them.
Cjlr
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...they're usually wearing yamabushi monk, farmer or peasant style gear, acting as spies or what not. However, if you go to Mie Prefecture in Japan and visit the Ninja Museum you'll find that traditional ninja gear is baggy... Reason for this is that so the enemy cannot predict ninja movement in combat since he can't see the shape of his legs and arms (it sort of "blurrs" movement and makes him unpredictable)...
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That aside, I'd like to point out what so many others have: ninjas are merely one culture's assassin. I would be very, very surprised if ANet didn't include at least one ninja-style armour (and I mean, real ninja-style, which =/= black pajamas btw...) in the game. Of course, keep in mind THERE WILL BE MORE THAN ONE KIND OF ASSASSIN ARMOUR. The Weekend Preview obviously didn't include every armour type, but that certainly does not mean there won't be more than one. Everyone will be able to outfit their assassin how they want.. Unless it's like necro armours, and they all look kinda bad, but that's another rant thread.
Covenant
Rit armor rocks, but Assasain armor could be a little improved.
Charqus
I think theyve been very kind with the assasin armour health upgrades...
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SirJackassIII
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I think theyve been very kind with the assasin armour health upgrades...
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assassin shaun
how and where do you get the assassin ancient/obsidean/vabbi armor bin tryin 4 a while now but cant find it
thx guys
thx guys
Seren!ty
Old 02-01-2006, 06:49 PM
Wow, mr threadnecro, where'd you find this thing..?
But to answer your question: You can find Ancient Armor in the Bone Palace (Nightfall), Obsidian Armor in the Fissure of Woe and Vabbian Armor in the Kodash Bazaar (Nightfall -Vabbi).
Wow, mr threadnecro, where'd you find this thing..?
But to answer your question: You can find Ancient Armor in the Bone Palace (Nightfall), Obsidian Armor in the Fissure of Woe and Vabbian Armor in the Kodash Bazaar (Nightfall -Vabbi).
Shuuda
I do agree that some of the assassin armors are too pointy, and would look much better without them (like Anicent for example) But some armors I find rather nice, like:
Elite Canthan for Males: It has lots of equipment (all the mini daggers) but none of them are pointing out too much, all but a few of the dagger handles.
Shing Jea: The closest thing we have to PJ assassin armor, I'd consider buying some and dying it black, real stealth look.
Vabbian: Apart from the arm and leg blades, I love the leatheriness of this armor.
Obsidian: Nothing too pointy, other than a few mini daggers, alot like the elite canthan really. Certainly one of the better FoW sets IMO.
I would be nice if someone could make some text mods that removed the spikes, I do remember seeing someone do that with Vabbi and Anicent, and looked rather good.
Elite Canthan for Males: It has lots of equipment (all the mini daggers) but none of them are pointing out too much, all but a few of the dagger handles.
Shing Jea: The closest thing we have to PJ assassin armor, I'd consider buying some and dying it black, real stealth look.
Vabbian: Apart from the arm and leg blades, I love the leatheriness of this armor.
Obsidian: Nothing too pointy, other than a few mini daggers, alot like the elite canthan really. Certainly one of the better FoW sets IMO.
I would be nice if someone could make some text mods that removed the spikes, I do remember seeing someone do that with Vabbi and Anicent, and looked rather good.
gremlin
Got my Assassin and Ritulaist armour in wajjun bazarr from Voldo the exotic.
Assassins isnt bad but love the ritualist one.
still I always thought the point of an assassin is you don't look like an assassin.
They should be able to wear any armor or clothing and have it give the same benefits as their own.
never happen though
Maybe its just Canthans have a love of tradition and everybody must use the dress code.
Assassins isnt bad but love the ritualist one.
still I always thought the point of an assassin is you don't look like an assassin.
They should be able to wear any armor or clothing and have it give the same benefits as their own.
never happen though
Maybe its just Canthans have a love of tradition and everybody must use the dress code.