Just to start off with a small topic for us warriors, i am for one to make the tank more dangerous and usefull then they currently are (im not saying super man)
but skills like 100 blades, is an elite skill, but why?!
i like the skill personally, with conjure flame and a fiery sword you hit 4x some dmg..
but why is it called 100 blades?!
Id like to see the skill do allot more dmg or just do more! maybe something in the line of flurry, but faster and every hit x2
100 blades *ahem*
Daiken Beowulf
Ninjutsu Honor Code
Because cyclone sword wasnt a original name anymore -.-
boxterduke
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Originally Posted by Ninjutsu Honor Code
Because cyclone sword wasnt a original name anymore -.-
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But I wish that it was not an Elite.
Imagine having 100 blades and Gladiator defense.
fallot
I heard it was an elite due to Illusionary Weaponry but this is unconfirmed hearsay at best.
Racthoh
Hundred Blades is good at what it's suppose to do. If you don't know what that is, experiment with it some more and you'll find out it has its uses.
mortalis doleo
it's been discussed a million times before...
hundred blades used to not be elite, but IW mesmers were overpowered, so they made it elite (you cant get illusionary weaponry AND hundred blades now, unless you get arcane mimicry - not worth it)
hundred blades used to not be elite, but IW mesmers were overpowered, so they made it elite (you cant get illusionary weaponry AND hundred blades now, unless you get arcane mimicry - not worth it)
Zhou Feng
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Originally Posted by fallot
I heard it was an elite due to Illusionary Weaponry but this is unconfirmed hearsay at best.
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Deathqueen
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Originally Posted by Ninjutsu Honor Code
Because cyclone sword wasnt a original name anymore -.-
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SaintGreg
With Strength of Honor, Order of the Vampire, Order of Pain, Hundred Blades has the highest damage of any single warrior attack and its an area of effect, followed next by Final Thrust below 50%. And that is why 100 Blades is good.
Deathqueen
NM! (smile)
Mandy Memory
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That is true. When Hundred Blades was non elite it would combo very nicely (and therefore nastily) with Illusionary Weapon. Thus being an attack that hit twice and everyone adjacent to foes with the effects of IW which ignores Armor. This attack combo was therefore nerfed. However I believe the real treick would have been to make IW NOT gain adrenaline to fuel Hundred Blades but meh...
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With Strength of Honor, Order of the Vampire, Order of Pain, Hundred Blades has the highest damage of any single warrior attack and its an area of effect, followed next by Final Thrust below 50%. And that is why 100 Blades is good.
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B. Final thrust is overshadowed by Eviscerate and Executioners because you dont lose all your adrenaline. Final thrust is only good as a finishing move on the last person (Or an annoying one)
C. Frenzy would have more of an effect when coupled with those skills, wouldnt it?
Guardian of the Light
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Originally Posted by Mandy Memory
IW does not gain adrenaline. Hundredblades costs 10 energy. That is why they are both elite now. Mainly it is elite because ArenaNet thought that they could solve every problem by making skills elite. For a while we gained elites like mad. (have you tried IW with cyclone axe...same effect...not elite)
A. you forgot winnowing, judge's insight, brutal weapon, etc... B. Final thrust is overshadowed by Eviscerate and Executioners because you dont lose all your adrenaline. Final thrust is only good as a finishing move on the last person (Or an annoying one) C. Frenzy would have more of an effect when coupled with those skills, wouldnt it? |
A. Yep thats true. you can get a pretty good combo.
B. If final is the only adrenaline skill you have bring it. My friend who was an ax warrior had no idea how I was doing so much damage in a 1v1 (he was running ax)
C. True that would work both on the target and on you
100 blade isn't meant to come on its own its meant for combos with other skills.
Also I noticed I hit more ppl with 100 blades more often then Cyclone because of balling up bahavior of spike teams.
BigTru
Hundred Blades is just a non-ranged version of Dual Shot with a weaker weapon and slight AoE that sees minimal use. It definitaly needs a buff, imo. Atleast make it better than Dual Shot.
aB-
At the very least, added damage would be nice. As it stands, it is an elite cyclone axe that hits the target twice. Hitting twice, in my opinion, does not warrent it being an elite.
Murder In China
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Hundred Blades is just a non-ranged version of Dual Shot with a weaker weapon and slight AoE that sees minimal use. It definitaly needs a buff, imo. Atleast make it better than Dual Shot.
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Originally Posted by aB-
At the very least, added damage would be nice. As it stands, it is an elite cyclone axe that hits the target twice. Hitting twice, in my opinion, does not warrent it being an elite.
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ShadowStorm
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Originally Posted by Murder In China
You seem to forget that Hundred Blades strikes twice, which provides more damage then Cyclone axe.
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BigTru
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Originally Posted by Murder In China
LOL, Hundred Blades is WAY better than Dual shot. First off, for every enemy you hit, you gain 2 strikes of Adrenaline (i.e. you swing at 10 enemies, you gain 20 adrenaline). Plus, you don't suffer from any damage penalty. With just one enchantment, say order of pain, you double that enchantment's effect. All this for only 5 Energy.
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Check the official updates page. Each swing on Hundred Blades does 25% less damage than normal, or 75% of the a regular swing.
Enchantments effect Dualshot the same way Hundred Blades does.
Please don't try to argue energy efficiency here... Expertiese+Druid's Armor anyone?
Dualshot > Hundredblades
Murder In China
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Originally Posted by ShadowStorm
Provides more damage than cyclone axe to just 1 target. Think about how many enemies cyclone axe hits in PvE and then think about how many times Hundred Blades hits in PvE. Hundred Blades does not do more damage than cyclone axe as it stands now.
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Originally Posted by BigTru
You shoot 2 arrows with Dualshot and get twice the adrenaline, too. Go figure.
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Originally Posted by BigTru
Check the official updates page. Each swing on Hundred Blades does 25% less damage than normal, or 75% of the a regular swing.
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Originally Posted by Update - Wednesday, August 10
Corrected Hundred Blades skill to deal damage accurately; previously it was dealing only 75% of its intended damage.
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Enchantments effect Dualshot the same way Hundred Blades does.
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Please don't try to argue energy efficiency here... Expertiese+Druid's Armor anyone?
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Originally Posted by BigTru
Dualshot > Hundredblades
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BigTru
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Originally Posted by Murder In China
It does when mass amount of monsters are crowded around that one target you choose to use Hundred Blades.
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Originally Posted by Murder In China
You're a warrior, the only time you should use a bow is to pull.
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Originally Posted by Murder In China
True, but Dual shot suffers a 25% damage penalty while Hundred Blades doesn't.
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Rangers need a somewhat high Expertise to Dual shot to 5 energy or lower. Gladiator's armor anyone?
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Alright, let me rephrase this. Make Hundredblades more distinguishably better than Dualshot.
Nessaja
The #1 Guild in the world used Hundred Blades on all of its warriors (they had 3). I think that says something.
It's an efficient spike+adrenaline builder.
It's an efficient spike+adrenaline builder.
Ninjutsu Honor Code
Does anyone have a build that actually works with this skill?
Nessaja
You need to abuse "Fear Me" if you're going to use hundred blades.
Lets say you have for great justice on aswell - one fear me in one hundred blades sequence. Spamming Fear Me with 3 warriors in GvG will eat monks alive.
Alone it wont do much good, but with a warrior team based on adrenaline and fear me you can drain casters faster then a mesmer could cast Energy Surge
Lets say you have for great justice on aswell - one fear me in one hundred blades sequence. Spamming Fear Me with 3 warriors in GvG will eat monks alive.
Alone it wont do much good, but with a warrior team based on adrenaline and fear me you can drain casters faster then a mesmer could cast Energy Surge
The Acolyte
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Originally Posted by Nessaja
You need to abuse "Fear Me" if you're going to use hundred blades.
Lets say you have for great justice on aswell - one fear me in one hundred blades sequence. Spamming Fear Me with 3 warriors in GvG will eat monks alive. Alone it wont do much good, but with a warrior team based on adrenaline and fear me you can drain casters faster then a mesmer could cast Energy Surge |
Murder In China
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Originally Posted by BigTru
But it is underpowered in PvP
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Yes, but you also fail to see that Rangers don't need Adrenaline. So why didyou bring this arguement up in the first place.
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Ok, fair enough. But you do recognize that their Dualshot can have something that Hundredblades can't; Preperations (unless you can't Apply Poison) and that Bows have a higher max damage?
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But they don't need a high Expertise to make it more efficient than Warriors. Rangers have 3 pips of Energy Regan and 32 max Energy with Druid's armor. A Warrior has 2 pips of Energy Regan and 27 max Energy with full Gladiator's armor.
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Originally Posted by BigTru
Alright, let me rephrase this. Make Hundredblades more distinguishably better than Dualshot.
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Already is just underlooked.
JR
Hundred Blades is *fine*. Where it suffers, is that it is part of the sword line, which is already viable without an elite attack skill on your bar. Most guilds run Sword warriors for the utility they offer with the spare elite slot, i.e. have them take charge. An Axe chain without Eviscerate is a lot weaker than a sword chain without Hundred Blades. Sever, Gash, Galrath, Final is already a very effecive chain.
It is a good skill, just not as neccasary as other attack elites to make your character potent. People run it where it fits their build, not because it is as staple as Eviscerate is to an axe warrior.
It is a good skill, just not as neccasary as other attack elites to make your character potent. People run it where it fits their build, not because it is as staple as Eviscerate is to an axe warrior.
BigTru
Ok, I've seen the light. I guess I was going by what Hundred Blades was before it was fixed. When I used it then, it was fairly crappy, to say the least.
Now I've used it and see just how efficient it is, even if it's only a little bit better than Dual Shot.
Against a fleeing target (with 60 AL), I do 54+54 damage, not counting vampiric or enchantments. Plus I get double adrenaline and a small chance at AoE.
Now what I would like to see improved is the AoE itself. I think it's much too small to be useful. A cool effect I'd like to see, though not necissary, is this:
Hundred Blades - Swing twice at foe and foes adjacent to target. Foes adjacent to any target hit by Hundred Blades are swung at twice.
Basicaly... If you all your targets are standing in a straight line, and you hit the one on the end, it'd have kinda a cool domino effect
Now I've used it and see just how efficient it is, even if it's only a little bit better than Dual Shot.
Against a fleeing target (with 60 AL), I do 54+54 damage, not counting vampiric or enchantments. Plus I get double adrenaline and a small chance at AoE.
Now what I would like to see improved is the AoE itself. I think it's much too small to be useful. A cool effect I'd like to see, though not necissary, is this:
Hundred Blades - Swing twice at foe and foes adjacent to target. Foes adjacent to any target hit by Hundred Blades are swung at twice.
Basicaly... If you all your targets are standing in a straight line, and you hit the one on the end, it'd have kinda a cool domino effect
Murder In China
How would your sword reach a target that is 20 feet away?
Rainy Ico
Honestly, I could REALLY use hundred blades with a vampiric mod, but sadly, that's at the end of the game -_-.
But really, I heard they toned down illusionary weapon so it did normal damage rather than ignore.
But really, I heard they toned down illusionary weapon so it did normal damage rather than ignore.
Turbo Wombat
Nope, IW still ignores armor and stances. Or, it did last I checked about a week ago.
BigTru
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How would your sword reach a target that is 20 feet away?
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There's nothing wrong with unique or strange skills, imo. Have a little imagination.
Murder In China
I would say something but I'm not.
Sol_Vie
This has been quite entertaining to read. I'll stick by HB to the end. It's a great skill. It's amazing for adren gain, it's a miracle working for farming (I've posted my build several times) and it's still great in PvE. I haven't tried it in PvP but I would imagine it's still quite useful. For example, in Zaishen Challenge my war can solo the IWAY team with HB and a few other skills.
Mitsuko
i like using hundred blades with vigorous spirit, especially when hitting a large group. It's like a vamp. attack, but better...