PvP vs. PvE

Effendi Westland

Effendi Westland

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Isle of the dead

[DVDF][LDS]

P/W

60% PvE
20% PvP
20% Idling

PvE never seems to bore me, the new UW added to that + the fact that i never farm, just do missions alot (have a service to provide income). I count selling / buying as PvE activity.

PvP has increased a bit lately, but i find it easier to get bad PvP experiences then bad PvE ones, so I only did that alot for about a week (did it 100% then). I count looking for a PvP party as PvP time.

Idling and ingame chatting is a favorite of mine, especially late at nigth when the topics can be about anything and alot of ppl are round to chat with. Sorta like a 3d IRC

ArisB

ArisB

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

LowLand Lions

W/Mo

95% PvE
5% PvP

But im starting to play PvP more often.
I'm getting better at combining skills and trying out new builds.

generik

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

99% PvE
1% PvP.. I got 2 fame!

led-zep

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

100% pve

0% pvp

dont like pvp and dont think i could get into a team anyway especially not tombs with the rank elitism

T1Cybernetic

T1Cybernetic

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Wakefield, West Yorkshire, Uk, Nr Earth

Alternate Evil Gamers [aeg]

N/

PvE 99% Here too & almost never play PvP!

Coming from an unreal & unreal tournament 99/2003/4 background
playing guildwars feels sooo slow in comparison even though they
are completely different types of game it just doesnt feel right.

I'll probably give PvP another chance and see how it goes though!

Jas

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

Piken Square - American District 1

The Everchanging Path [lost]

Mo/E

99.99% PvE... 0.01% PvP (once a month, maybe)

Nevin

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

50/50

boxterduke

boxterduke

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Walking the ruins of Ascalon

DVDF

Me/

I would have to say that up to a month ago or even less I was 100% PvE.
You can say I'm a PvE person, if I want to play against people I would just load UT2004 or Quake.

But these days I see myself also playing PvP so I would say 80% PvE and 20% PvP give or take.

Gorebrex

Gorebrex

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

Always and forever, 100% PvE, have absolutely no interest in PvP(Just like joining a guild). If I could turn off chat message about "So and So has won favor for Blah blah blah", I would. Id rather just see messages from standard channels(Oficially requesting that option ).

kvndoom

kvndoom

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Communistwealth of Virginia

Uninstalled

W/Mo



Guess...

bebe

bebe

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

http://tinyurl.com/4g5ueb8

Put the peanut in the peanut hole!

75% idling/chatting
20% pve
5% pvp

D;

allience

allience

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/Me

now 95% pvp
5% pve

i used to play a lot of pve. i have 5 lvl 20 chars and i stopped doing pve when i found the last ecto and shard i needed for a fow set. i realised that the time i put in the pve is not worth the rewards.

i'm into pvp now, grinding my way to r6. yes grinding, even in pvp. i wouldn't do it but the only ppl that i saw creating interesting builds and following simple rules such as 'call-attak target' are r6+ and they don't accepts lower ranks.
i thought it will all be good when i hit r3 but i was wrong. r3 is almost the same as random unranked pug. the only difference is that they have more common sense such as bringing rez sig and not attaking/using skills through backfire or spiteful spirit.
wow, amazing improvement...

Loch

Loch

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
i thought it will all be good when i hit r3 but i was wrong. r3 is almost the same as random unranked pug.
Ranked IWAY = Unranked IWAY

Sorry, PvP is the one gametype where grinding through doesn't make you stronger, assuming you already have the skills for you builds.

Which brings up the UAX debate, which I won't get into.

Apple

Apple

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

N/Mo

80% Trade channel
15% PvE
5% PvP

asdar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

This thread truly astonishes me.

I can't imagine playing pve any longer and thought that of the two PvE would die out fast. I don't think I've ever been more wrong.

The part that makes me wonder is that there isn't anything left to do after the missions.

I haven't played much PvE for a long while but in no more than a few months I'd played through all missions on 3 characters, my last one with only hencemen. I've gone back and capped everything and done them all at least one more for that, and I've helped a lot of guild mates and friends through missions.

I've done Thunderhead Keep at least 50 times.

I just can't fathom what all the purely PvE players are doing. In my PvE time I unlocked every inch of the map from the northeast through the tar pits and down through the jungles and red dirt of the southwest.

The underworld and FoW are a bit better but still not remotely challenging, and not at all changing.

I love RP and have done it in many games but how do you RP something you've done so many times you can repeat the NPC text you're coming up on.

PvP is pretty straight forward and simple but there is developing, or at least changing strategy involved.

I'm not complaining or criticizing, I hope it doesn't sound like that. I'm just astonished at the sheer numbers of purely pve players.

actionjack

actionjack

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Kali

W/E

90% GW Forum
15% Thunderhead
5% De-dressing character

Sarus

Sarus

Ministry of Technology

Join Date: Feb 2005

Washington D.C.

Idiot Savants

Mo/

95% PvP
5% PvE

All the PvE I do is for the sole reason of making my PvP characters better and/or getting a special item like the pumpkin head.

Gorebrex

Gorebrex

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by asdar
This thread truly astonishes me.

I can't imagine playing pve any longer and thought that of the two PvE would die out fast. I don't think I've ever been more wrong.

The part that makes me wonder is that there isn't anything left to do after the missions.

I haven't played much PvE for a long while but in no more than a few months I'd played through all missions on 3 characters, my last one with only hencemen. I've gone back and capped everything and done them all at least one more for that, and I've helped a lot of guild mates and friends through missions.

I've done Thunderhead Keep at least 50 times.

I just can't fathom what all the purely PvE players are doing. In my PvE time I unlocked every inch of the map from the northeast through the tar pits and down through the jungles and red dirt of the southwest.

The underworld and FoW are a bit better but still not remotely challenging, and not at all changing.

I love RP and have done it in many games but how do you RP something you've done so many times you can repeat the NPC text you're coming up on.

PvP is pretty straight forward and simple but there is developing, or at least changing strategy involved.

I'm not complaining or criticizing, I hope it doesn't sound like that. I'm just astonished at the sheer numbers of purely pve players.
Some of us arent interested in PvP, for various reasons. Myself, I just cant see the appeal, Ive been told, "Oh, its more challenging", or other things, but it holds about as much appeal to me as cutting off my arm(slowly) with a rusty penknife.... PvP in RPGs... I dont get it.

WasAGuest

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gorebrex
Some of us arent interested in PvP, for various reasons. Myself, I just cant see the appeal, Ive been told, "Oh, its more challenging", or other things, but it holds about as much appeal to me as cutting off my arm(slowly) with a rusty penknife.... PvP in RPGs... I dont get it.
That sounds like me... I just don't get it. I've tried it... was so bored I apologized to the group and logged as soon as we were done. I've tried PvP in many online games and found the same results... dull. I've watched a few matches in the observe mode and after watching the poor monks and mesmers get "spiked" for the tenth time I thought to myself "This is fun?". I mean, when it happens from a AI creature and you get killed like that, it's rather funny (too me anyway) but for players to do that time after time...
It's just not for me it would seem.
So, 100% PvE still stands.

Isina Morden

Isina Morden

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2006

N/R

RIght now, it's 98% PvE, 2% PvP. The last time I got a metric buttload of faction was during the Wintersday snowball fights.

I liked PvPing with my guild in Guild Battles, but I my last one went inactive, and I haven't found one I've really liked since.

asdar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

I understand why people wouldn't like this PvP, I just don't understand why people would like the PvE.

Gorebrex

Gorebrex

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

Cant speak for anyone else, but I enjoy the character development, getting new abilities/skills, and trying to find out how to put them to best use(NOT in PvP! That would be WAY too much stress, trying to constantly keep up with new builds and such, especially when (unless new content comes soon enough, the builds will eventually stabilize a bit, as people figure out "the" build to PvP for a certain class). Personally, I think that in PvP(especially 1v1), all classes should have the EXACT same setup for that class. All of a particular class would have the same armor, weapons, offhands(if chosen), same exact health and energy levels. This wouldnt be a case of "Who can counter who better", but is TRULY a test of skill, as the opposition has the same things you do, and it comes down to who uses it better(strategy, timing, coordination, ect). Just my 2 cents.

STOP SHOOTING! /ducks, hides

Oronar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by asdar
I understand why people wouldn't like this PvP, I just don't understand why people would like the PvE.
I find that I progress through PvE at a rather glacial pace most of the time. Just doing a few quests can sometimes chew up a couple of hours without me realizing it. Anyway, there's always something I want to do next, it's just a matter of prioritizing. Also, I'm hoping that in the future they'll make it easier to form groups for specific tasks/quests that are somewhat unpopular, like the bonuses in every mission from riverside onwards, or the titan quests, etc. I've been wanting to do those since November, but can never find more than a couple people interested in starting a group. A new group creation system (something global maybe?) would really do away with a lot of wasted downtime.

Eugaet

Eugaet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

US

Righteous Apathy [RA]

Quote:
Originally Posted by asdar
I understand why people wouldn't like this PvP, I just don't understand why people would like the PvE.
I just prefer co-op over competitive play. It's more fun for me to play with someone than against someone. And, yes, I realize you're playing with a party in PvP, but still...it just doesn't interest me as much as exploring Tyria with a group of friends, even if it's the 200th time we've done so.

Everyone has a preference, not all of them the same as yours. Guild Wars caters to both.

Caged Fury

Caged Fury

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hearts Of Fury [HoF]

Quote:
I just can't fathom what all the purely PvE players are doing.
This, that and the other.

For me, the PvE side of the game have loads of things to keep me entertained and busy. I haven't finished the game yet and I'm working through it in a reasonable pace. Rather than getting one character through the story, I'm working on 3. When I get so far and fancy a break from being a warrior, I switch to mesmer or ranger and so on. Just got two of them ascended now. If I want a break from advancing the story, I would either join pugs to help other players with missions, or I go on an exploring trip. When I explore I tend to pick a town/out post, pick a direction from there and just go, and see where it takes me. I once joined someone on a long journey. The two of us met at Bergen Hot Springs, heard someone in Local Chat say that ToA was NW from there. So we did a road trip out from Bergen to find ToA. To make the journey more challenging, we didn't take any henchies - it was just the two of us. Once we got to ToA, we looked around, tried to get into FoW and UW but couldn't - wasn't ascended at the time. So we left ToA and continued with our adventure. We followed any paths that took our fancy, in between fighting we did some sightseeing. And our long walk ended at Fisherman's Haven. There's still many places on my map uncovered and I would like to explore those areas. I just find it enjoyable to go exploring.