How to start a 55 Monk for poor folk

Rhuobhe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Less Crying is Key [kThx]

Here is how to get your monk started if you are broke and want to make a 55 farmer.

Take a set of armor - ANY ARMOR WILL DO - Armor rating does NOT matter (but tatoos are always prefered). It helps if your head peice is +1 to smiting, but this does not matter too much.

Major Runes ALWAYS cost 100g. Buy 1 of each monk attribute and 1 more of any atribute you like (except vigor) and put them on each of your 5 armor peices.
With 5 major runes (all monk runes - no vigor) you get your base health down to 230 AND you boost all your monk atts by 2.

Go on the Cities of Ascelon quest for the -50 offhand, and voila you have 180 health.

Get 3 encrusted loadstones (I could be wrong on the collector item) and pick up a Firey Flame Spitter south of Serenity Temple.
Go to Lions Arch and say "WTB Axe Grip of Enchanting 10-17%" and get someone to sell you, say a 15% one for 1-2K.

Optional: Next collect some Charr Carvings and go outside of Nolani and pick up the collectors fire wand for +5 energy, it will be useful in the future and is always nice when you're in a pinch for energy.

You now have a monk with:
"Halves Spell Recharge (chance: 10%)"
"Enchantments last 15% longer"
180 Health
+2 Devine Favor, Healing, Protection
+3 Smiting

You will need the "core 55 skillset" to be effective, even from the beginning.

It is highly advised that you get the following skills:
Balthazar's Spirit, Essence Bond, Mending, Devine Boon (to offset your high health), Blessed Aura, Protective Spirit, Blessed Signet, Healing Breeze,

You will need to cap Shield of Judgement in Mineral Springs.

Once you have all of that done, you will have spent approximatly 2-3K and have a pretty nice farming setup for the money.

Probably the easiest thing to do at this point is farm minotaurs at Elona for some cash and get used to the monk farming build. You won't need to worry about interrupts or knockdowns here.

With what you have, this build should work nicely for the minotaurs:
Healing Breeze
Protective Spirit
Shield of Judgement
Blessed Signet
Devine Boon
Mending
Balthazar's Spirit
Blessed Aura

You will have 0 energy regen, but every time you take damage you will gain 1 energy and when you use Blessed Signet you will gain 12 energy.

Throw up all of your enchantments (the last 4 in the list) and use Blessed Signet until you have full energy.

Get close (but not within agro) to some minotaurs and throw up Protective Spirit and Healing Breeze. Agro about 4 or 5 at first to get the hang of things.
Once they are all attacking you, use Shield of Judgement and watch them take damage and get knocked down.

Make sure Healing Breeze and Protective Spirit are up at all times. SoJ should be on you as often as possible, if you are being attacked.

Use Blessed Signet religiously if energy seems to be a problem.
At any point if you are in a pinch for energy, switch to the Nolani wand for a +5 energy boost.

If you are losing health too fast, cast Protective Spirit or Healing Breeze for a nice Devine favor/boon boost.

After you get the hang of minotaurs, move on to Griffons and Hydras.

Once you have enough money saved up, buy Droknar's Tatoos and Superior Monk Runes!

Questions and comments welcomed

cerb

cerb

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2005

Sept-Iles, QC, Canada

Les Tric??ratops Sont Nos [Amis]

Mo/

GJ, 180 hp is a little high though, I'd recommand dying for DP thus less health )

Rhuobhe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Less Crying is Key [kThx]

Dying would be good of course, but in a mission dying is not an option.

If you want to move on to griffons/minotaurs then dying would probably be necessary.

When I first started farming with my monk I had 4 superior runes and no -50 offhand, (180 health) and I was still able to farm 2-3 hydras For high health, Devine Boon really helps to keep you alive.

The Primeval King

The Primeval King

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Theres A Frog On My [Cape]

W/

Or you could just make a w/mo. Lol

Rhuobhe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Less Crying is Key [kThx]

The game has too many Wammos as it is, and only a small percentage of them actually know how to play.

Aside from that, I made this thread in response to people asking how they are to pay for the runes for a 55 monk. This, to me, means they already have a monk but not the money to afford the runes.
It would be a lot faster to start farming TODAY and saving up then it would be to get a wammo to the desert with all the needed skills and armor.

This is a guide for people who have a monk and want to start making money TODAY not next week, and for those who want to do so with thier monk.

If you have an improvement that pertains to the monk class, by all means please post it

If you'r going to say "Or you could just make a w/mo. Lol" please do not

kc99

kc99

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Scotland

Renaissance Desire

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhuobhe
Go to Lions Arch and say "WTB Axe Grip of Enchanting 10-17%" and get someone to sell you, say a 15% one for 1-2K. Excuse me for being stupid, but what do you need an axe grip for if you are using wands?

Rhuobhe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Less Crying is Key [kThx]

55 Monks generally do NOT kill things with thier wand, nor do they kill things with the axe I mentioned
There is no wand in the game that gives +% to enchantments, and virtually all of the skills you use are enchantments:
Healing Breeze, Shield of Judgement, and Protective Spirit to name a few.

Don't even think about using a staff with this setup - you need the -50 health item in this case, and it will make things a lot easier even with superior runes.

Having said that, it is a good idea to have a wand handy just incase SoJ kills all but 1 monster - you can wand him to death in the end, but for casting you want the axe.

At 15 smiting SoJ lasts about 20 seconds (IIRC) and if you have a 20% enchant mod with 35% bonus from Blessed Aura, you have a 55% bonus which means SoJ will last for about 31 seconds instead.
That extra time will make a huge difference in soloing monsters. Also helps with energy management.

The axe has an added advantage stated above: 10% chance for spells to recharge twice as quick. If you get this 10% on a SoJ you'll have SoJ recharged before it's even done!! (On a side note, this is why I prefer the flame spitter over the HoD sword)

Finally, I wanted to add that while the 15% enchant pommel is fine for the time being, try to shoot for a 20% after you have your superior runes with tatoo armor.

.killjoy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Mo/Me

Axe grips of enchants are cheaper than sword ones, i use a FDS with 19% enchant it the mod costed me 9k i got it at an ok price.... thats why people use axes also get an axe with lower req. to attack better also.. there is a quest that give you the -50 health focus weapon at asceolon quest.. forgot what it is, also its either you use sup. runes or ur not a 55 monk if your gonna do it do it right

heres some tips and build to follow on my website will help you finds skills and weapons and offhands to use for your 55 http://killjoy.bhxhost.com/killjoy/

Jammy

Jammy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Mo

Whats this Fiery Flame Spitter, I can't seem to find it

Rhuobhe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Less Crying is Key [kThx]

Quote:
Originally Posted by .killjoy
get an axe with lower req. to attack better
You're doing something wrong if you are attacking with an axe for anything aside from adrenaline

Quote: That is a completely inaccurate and uninformed post.

Fiery Flame Spitters NEVER HAVE come with a 20% enchant mod.
The reason for getting a FFS is for its BUILT IN mod:
"Halves Skill Recharge of spells (Chance: 10%)" (This was the mod that was "nerfed" from 15% to 10%)

Mine has been modded with a 20% enchant haft and a 10% furious hilt. LOOK:

Bloodied Blade

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

The FFS never came with an enchanting mod...you always had to add one.

To those of you worried about your armor:

Spend a day or two just farming, don't go normal monking in your 55 monk armor (it's do-able, just VERY VERY PAINFUL).

What I did was just go to Augury Rock and farm Hydras using Spell Breaker and Zealot's Fire (Spell Breaker is handy, but SoJ is better...SoJ is also much harder to get, and for a starting 55 monk, 5k for a run to droks isn't bad, then you just get a skill capping group from Rankor to get Spell Breaker, you can also get Signet of Judgement there, Spiteful Spirit...lots of goodness).

Zealot's Fire should hit ~20s and above on hydras when you use an enchantment, just use ZF, and start casting. Make sure that you space out your casts if you want the whole mob to die at once... it takes a little practice, but it's doable (you don't even need Spell Breaker, I just had it at the time).

morris willis

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2006

off duty soldiers

N/Me

Spell Breaker is handy, but SoJ is better...(quote from bloodied blade, i havnt yet worked out how to quote properly)
sb is much better than soj unless u have not other dmg dealer sb stops nightmare from killing u

BrotherGilburt

BrotherGilburt

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

USA

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhuobhe
That is a completely inaccurate and uninformed post.

Fiery Flame Spitters NEVER HAVE come with a 20% enchant mod.
The reason for getting a FFS is for its BUILT IN mod:
"Halves Skill Recharge of spells (Chance: 10%)" (This was the mod that was "nerfed" from 15% to 10%)

Mine has been modded with a 20% enchant haft and a 10% furious hilt. LOOK:

yes, yes, yes. I made that post before I new that. Not to much of a big deal.

sigh, I just didn't read the guide very well. Sorry bout that.

Brother Gilburt

Rhuobhe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Less Crying is Key [kThx]

Quote:
Originally Posted by BrotherGilburt
yes, yes, yes. I made that post before I new that. Not to much of a big deal.

sigh, I just didn't read the guide very well. Sorry bout that.

Brother Gilburt No problem. Reading FTW

eudas

eudas

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Tx, USA

The Infinite Monkeys [TYPE]

W/

All of this information should be obvious to anyone who has
a) been playing the game for any minimal amount of time;
b) has access to the 'net, and specifically guildwiki.org; and therefore has
b) 1) looked at the invincimonk build;
b) 2) looked at the items that are commonly referenced in connection with 55 monking;
c) has two brain cells to rub together.

i mean, come on.
"i can't afford the expensive top end items, so let me use cheaper substitutes instead -- ok, identify cheaper substitutes, and obtain them."
not exactly rocket science line of thinking.

FFS (collector), -50hp item (cities of ascalon quest), major runes (every capitol city)... copy 55 monk build aaaaaand... done. go farm, and upgrade your shit as you get richer. gee whiz, what genius!

:/
sorry, i'm not trying to be the dark cloud raining on y'all parade, but come on.

eudas

Rhuobhe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Less Crying is Key [kThx]

But it's not obvious eudas. That is why I started the thread originally - people commonly complained about 55 monks being impossible to make due to monitary restrictions.

Now though, Superior monk runes are what? Like 3-4K each? Shouldn't be too hard to make a 55... Just do the cantha quests and with the gold rewards (and selling drops) you'll have enough cash to make it.
Originally Posted by .killjoy
its either you use sup. runes or ur not a 55 monk if your gonna do it do it right The point of this thread is the average joe might not have 50K+ to buy the runes and start a 55 monk. The average joe will however have 2-3K startup money and will be able to make 50K to buy the runes eventually.

Rhuobhe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Less Crying is Key [kThx]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jammy
Whats this Fiery Flame Spitter, I can't seem to find it This is the one I use, I modified the haft to a furious one, since I do Mo/W sometimes.


Note the -10 armor while attacking DOES NOT matter since protective spirit works the same under any armor.

You can read up more on the FFS and it's location here:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=93087

Jammy

Jammy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Mo

Can u help me? I'll pay u if u take me to him.

Rhuobhe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Less Crying is Key [kThx]

Sure, is your IGN "Sleek As The Wind" ? I'll look for you when I'm online

Jammy

Jammy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Mo

Yer thats me, and Do u have any enchanted lodestones ^ ^ I buy them too if you do.

Rhuobhe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Less Crying is Key [kThx]

we'll get you some outside of serenity temple, unless you want to get them before we go.

kc99

kc99

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Scotland

Renaissance Desire

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhuobhe
The axe has an added advantage stated above: 10% chance for spells to recharge twice as quick. If you get this 10% on a SoJ you'll have SoJ recharged before it's even done!! (On a side note, this is why I prefer the flame spitter over the HoD sword) Ahh this clears things up! Great now am gonna go get me one.

Dwimmerlaik

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

LLJK

A/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhuobhe
Once you have enough money saved up, buy Droknar's Tatoos and Superior Monk Runes!

Questions and comments welcomed Why are you telling people to buy Droknar's Tatoos when you know damn well that they offer absolutely no benefit to a 55 monk over Ascalon tatoos?

Rhuobhe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Less Crying is Key [kThx]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwimmerlaik
Why are you telling people to buy Droknar's Tatoos when you know damn well that they offer absolutely no benefit to a 55 monk over Ascalon tatoos? There is a very clear reason why Drok's Tatoos are preffered for your Superior runes.

Im my situation, my monk has 2 sets of armor: Droks tatoos w/ superior runes and FoW with minor runes.

Most people will not use the monk for 100% farming, occasionally they will do a mission, a SF run, or perhaps even a new Tombs run.

The idea is that you match the runes up, here is what I do:
-=Tatoos=-
Head Peice: Superior Protection (was the cheapest at the time)
Chest: Superior Protection
Arms: Superior Smiting
Legs: Superior Devine Favor
Feet: Superior Healing
-=FoW=-
Head Peice: Superior Vigor
Chest: Minor Protection
Arms: Minor Smiting
Legs: Minor Devine Favor
Feet: Minor Healing

Do you see the point yet? If not:
This gives you flexibility. You can be a healer, smiter, protector all without needing to re-arange armor and/or runes. You will be using the tatoos w/ sup runes on them for non-farming purposes aswell.

So in a nutshell, you will probably NOT always have protective spirit on you and armor WILL matter when you don't.

Get it?

EDIT: I feel bad for any monk who does non-55 farming in addition to farming and put runes on ascelon tatoos. Hopefully they salvage for you!

RuPee

RuPee

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Los Angeles, CA

[RoD]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhuobhe
Once you have enough money saved up, buy Droknar's Tatoos and Superior Monk Runes!
i have a 55 monk and i just wanted to mention that the cheap lions arch tattoos have the same amount of energy bonuses as the droks tats have. agen armor doesnt matter since u will be taking only 10% damage from protective spirit.

i thought i would say this since this is a thread about a budget "55" monk.

Rhuobhe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Less Crying is Key [kThx]

Quote:
Originally Posted by RuPee
i have a 55 monk and i just wanted to mention that the cheap lions arch tattoos have the same amount of energy bonuses as the droks tats have. agen armor doesnt matter since u will be taking only 10% damage from protective spirit.

i thought i would say this since this is a thread about a budget "55" monk. True, but for reasons stated above you will be owned pretty fast if you try to reuse that sup rune on crappy armor with normal armor on a non-farming run.

If your sup healing is on your chest armor with low AL, then you'll be taking HUGE amounts of physical damage when you're out doing Tombs/FoW group/SF/Missions. Or you could always buy a second sup healing You decide what is cheaper.

In the long run, you'll be thanking yourself for buying DROKS tatoos

You'll save money now, but probably regret it later if you buy substandard tatoos. You're in it for the long run afterall, right?

Nameless

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhuobhe
Major Runes ALWAYS cost 100g. Buy 1 of each monk attribute and 1 more of any atribute you like (except vigor) and put them on each of your 5 armor peices.
With 5 major runes (all monk runes - no vigor) you get your base health down to 230 AND you boost all your monk atts by 2.

Go on the Cities of Ascelon quest for the -50 offhand, and voila you have 180 health.
Thank you so much for posting this, now I can finally use my Monk for farming. Also, I want to ask you something. When you said, "Buy 1 of each Monk Attribute, and 1 more of ANY attribute you like," do you mean like Fast Casting Major Rune, Blood Magic Major Rune, etc.? And, about the Cities of Ascalon quest. Did they change it again so the quest gives out the Grim Cesta that has -50HP? Thank you.

-Nameless

Tyrent Frath

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

[ECTO]

Mo/W



while building my 55 monk, i got lucky and a Sup Vigor dropped for me while capping Spell Breaker with henchies, so that's where my $ for runes came from.

Dwimmerlaik

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

LLJK

A/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nameless
Thank you so much for posting this, now I can finally use my Monk for farming. Also, I want to ask you something. When you said, "Buy 1 of each Monk Attribute, and 1 more of ANY attribute you like," do you mean like Fast Casting Major Rune, Blood Magic Major Rune, etc.? And, about the Cities of Ascalon quest. Did they change it again so the quest gives out the Grim Cesta that has -50HP? Thank you.

-Nameless He means to just buy another Sup/Maj rune to get the -50/-75 HP penalty. Any other rune. Also, you cannot use another classes runes - that's why they're MONK Superior Rune of Protection Prayers.

Also, i fully understand what you're saying Rhoubhe about swapping out armor, but i personally use my head-slot for that. I have a Healing, Divine, Prot, and Smite head tatoo with the corresponding superior rune on it, with Vigor on chest, then Prot/Heal/Divine on the other pieces. I do coordinate the same slots across armor.

Celeborn

Celeborn

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

England

Gameamp Guides [AMP]

Mo/Me

Or instead, you could just do some Sorrows Farming or Tombs farming and sell a green for about 50K and buy the runes...just a suggestion..

baz777

baz777

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

South East England

Leader: Lady Hairy Armpits S[mell]

E/

Nice thread this.

A cheaper way still would be to join our guild, I’ve already kitted out 2 55hp monks (3 including myself)

Jammy

Jammy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Mo

Sorry Rhuo, I had to go when you were coming to see me, Cann you tell me your IGN and I'll add you?

Human slayer

Human slayer

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Kentucky, USA

Passionate Kiss of Life [KISS]

W/

would it matter if u were lvl 20 or not, jw.

Anyways, ive always admired the 55 monk build, and i would like to thank everyone who took part in this thread, and thanx for helping the poorer gamers afford the more expensive luxuries of GW.

remmeh

remmeh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Apathy Inc [AI]

R/Mo

the best way to get money without a 55mo is to farm greens in SF, pve Tombs, and that new desert green

Yanman.be

Yanman.be

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

[ROSE]

A/

my 55 uses presearing armour..easiest/cheapest way

Mister Muhkuh

Mister Muhkuh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Germany

Ugly Ducklings [ugly]

P/

Quote:
Originally Posted by baz777
Nice thread this.

A cheaper way still would be to join our guild, I’ve already kitted out 2 55hp monks (3 including myself) and i read this now, 4 days after i bought all that stuff myself

i got my money from running people around desert(very easy), farming in tombs and buying candy canes low and sell it for normal price...

onerabbit

onerabbit

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Thanks to all the guru [mods]

yeh jus die twice and it takes ur health dwn thats what i did to get my 55 monk :P

Rhuobhe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Less Crying is Key [kThx]

Well you can get all 5 superior runes now for about 40K from the trader (total BS imo, but whatever ) so it shouldnt take long to get setup.

BrotherGilburt

BrotherGilburt

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

USA

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhuobhe
Get 3 encrusted loadstones (I could be wrong on the collector item) and pick up a Firey Flame Spitter south of Serenity Temple. first of all its scorched lodestones.
Second of all Anet nerfed the 20% enchant mod off the firery flame spitter. It is now useless for 55hp farming.

Brother Gilburt

Rhuobhe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Less Crying is Key [kThx]

Quote:
Originally Posted by BrotherGilburt
first of all its scorched lodestones.
Second of all Anet nerfed the 20% enchant mod off the firery flame spitter. It is now useless for 55hp farming.

Brother Gilburt