No newbies Town

i have nothing against newbies , or less skilled people

Imagine a town only for people who have done all the 20 k and 50 k droks quests for exemple. or at least for after hells percipice.

we need a town for end game people only IMO.

this new tombs rocks everyday , but still lots of ascended yesterday people.
witch i have nothing against , im not asking to change that , just a new place for people that are playing for 8 months like me

What's the point of this, though? Its not like you'de find more interesting conversation there.

See, like here. You fail to say why we need this. Kind of confusing ^^

And while we're at it we can introduce PvE fame, just like in Tombs. Then we can all sit around in war camp shouting 'SF group forming, r6+ only, noobs go back to ascalon!'.

I actually saw someone in tombs yesterday, shouting to form a r6+ group. I PMed him and informed him that it was a PvE area now, and he replied 'yes, I know, but I don't want noobs'...... forum rules prohibit me from posting what I said back to him.

as i said i dont mean to send noobs to ascalon
or fame for pvers so they can send noobs to ascalon
i want a town after hells percipice with zones even harder then the new tombs , im not even asking for new greens for that zone , more experience , or better farming place or better conversation with people there

just as simple as , only people who can play as a team can reach.

like impossible to run there , all 8 players are needed as fighters with all atributes sup runes and best skill combinations.

im saying this becose the new tombs is out and i have already beat it 4 times .. also i have failed about 10 times becose people leave out of faith. just today we were doing so good , killing fast as i have never seen , i was amazed and happy , at that speed no one was dieing. we would beat it in less then 3 hours maybe less then 2. and then we reach the second wurm , we rush on them , i think wow , these people are crazy , we sould lure pop ups , about 3 pop up groups there , but no , we are fighting them all , plus the wurm , of corse all people die , only me a a monk survive , the monk tryes to rez someone and dies , so its me letf over with one rez sig . one of the monks imideatly leaves , and after 10 second the other 2 monks leaves ...

i mean , we had 3 monks , doing too good to be true . first time we die , and people leave ???

what do you call these people in gw ??? noobs

i didnt call them that , but i felt it was the biggest waste of all ... and the only conclusion i can make is that they are not experienced , i am sure we could have regrouped and beat it with that team , they lose faith out of experience.

so with this town for experienced people i dont mean to send noobs to ascalon , i mean to send experienced people to another place.

im also sure anet have think of this before , but they need experienced people mixed with non experienced , so they can teach each other experiences ...

anyway , this can be a sugestion for factions. since we had so many gifts.

i cant be more greatfull with this new tombs.

OMG YES

SERIOUSLY LETS GET THE ELITEST, ARROGANT, CONDESCENDING, JERKS CONCENTRATED AND LET THEM BRAG EACH OTHER TO DEATH.

FRESH AIR FOR EVERYBODY ELSE

/THOUSAND TIMES SIGNED

I can see your reasoning behind wanting more exp players. I do think it odd that people leave after a death though. I for one, am rather new to the game, it was a Christmas present, and I have found myself in a similar situation. People just up and leave after a death. Most often it was due to some carelessness on our part. Such as charging in. I find it odd that death even irks people in this game. Maybe it's the years in EQ where a death meant the next two weeks were spent regaining your exp (unless you knew a nice high level cleric).
Yea, so anyway, really can't say it has all to do with newer people that leave. I for one, would have probably laughed it off with an "Ooops" (which I've been screamed at for - even if it was no fault of mine... standing out of aggro range shooting) and stuck around to see how we get ourselves back into the action.

whats your IGN cheeessshhh

i dont mean to avoid anyone , i must be one of the few people that dont ever call anyone a noob and tryes to explain is knolage instead of leaving the team ...

you are not being fair ...

There is no way you could regulate that, doing quests missions etc doesn't equal matureness, the same way armour or whatever doesn't

when it is boiled down you want the equivalent of an exclusive social club to exclude anybody except your own lofty equals

you may be a polite wonderful helpful person but this exclusive keep out the new inexperienced people would gag a goat

/still in favor of concentrating them to clear the air elsewhere

i believe it does , one of my favorite mission is hells percipice becose people are afraid the first minute they go in , expecialy people that havent beat it yet .. its very easy to feel the diferent behaviurs from mission to mission. there is a learning curve. its very obvius.

the way tombs is located now , you can team up with someone that have not done any of the snow missions or any of the fire island missions.

thats why i think anet did on purpuse , to add the cumunity factor as a dificulty factor , once again , genius.

Even if they did add an area like this you would still have the same problem as you do now.

No I would call them bad players, but some time’s people leave for other reasons too, like lagged out, error 7, line drops, power outage, any number or reason.

Secondly how are people going to get experienced if no one likes playing with them, everyone has a different player style. It’s just an endless cycle.

/signed

well , im not a part of those people you talk ... elitists
im just playing this game i love for 8 months
you can find me in all towns doind all quests and missions , even in pre searing . so this place would not take me away from the whole game that i love , you have no point , sorry.

no

you have confirmed it.

you want to wander where ever you want to and then go to a place that would exclude a majority of the game population.

sorry but no newbies allowed

only the best players are allowed.

its ours ,you are not good enough, keep out

thats why you have guilds

if so , yes agree with you

becose if you are a noob , its your foult ... the same way many people cant ever reach tombs becose they cant beat the mirror.

1 you are not skilled
2 dont read skills
3 got the game this cristmas

its already a social club.

nothing new here.

If they did what you're suggesting, that would be discriminating against new players, or players with lesser skill which I believe would go agains EULA.
Also if all the good players gathered at one place who would teach the new players how to play? Suddenly every mission would be impossible to beat and eventuallly everyone would give up on the game and go play something else.

/not signed sorry

Horray for sarcasm.

I don't think OP is correct in saying there should be a separate place for 8 months people (I am one, but who cares). How about you just play with people and then decide if they are good or not, then add them to your friendlist.

We all had a start at SOME point. Some started later, it doesn't mean they are any less mature/experienced.

we can all meet in your guild hall and have tupperware parties!

I'm going to start a club for people who have played since the beta. You're not allowed in.

Just because you finished the game and have 150k armor, doesn't mean you're not a noob -.-;
We don't need a place for "elites" just live with it -.-;

i give up , members of this forum are just retarded ...

can you read ?

what im asking is no diferent from the actual Dragons Lar , where only people that have beaten the mirror can go in .

but instead of being after mirror , after hell percipice or droks 20 k quests ...

BOOOO to trols , go spam in off topic

Why is it needed? What's the point? Why seperate the PvE community like that? Why give 'oldbies' power?

And you're not even doing that. You could have someone run you through the ENTIRE GAME and get to this 'elite' area and you would STILL be a moron.

A clue, sir. Get one.

OMG , do you have brains ???

can anyone run you through mirror ??????

jesus crist

not wanting a new town is ok , now saying this would do harm to the game as it is i total , stupidity , all towns are like the one im saying.

if there was no hells percipice , the end game would be , abandom mounth ... do you hate anet becose they did hells ?

is it hells a place only for elitists that hate noobs ?

please go spam in off topic , you have destroided completely my thread with junk.

Well I'm all for this town if the players in it would be nice enough to give me 50K or so when I need it. It would save me having to beg for money in LA and Droknars.

First of all, neoteo, you're a moron.

Now that I got that out of the way, all Kakumei was talking about was that you can be run to pretty much every single place in this game. You can pretty much be ran to Hell's Precipe. You can get ran to Thunderhead Keep, join a party that pretty much does all the work, and there sir, you are on the fire islands. Then it is simply just being able to get your hand held and taken through the rest of the missions, and voila, you've technically have been ran through the whole game.

Just remember, you don't NEED to reach Ascension to get to the end of the story, therefore people can still reach pretty much any area by having their hand held. And about the mirror, every class has their own little "tricks" to killing him, so any newbie can take him out if they simply get taught how.

Any "Elitist" town will be filled with newbies who want to strap on the good ol' leash and get taken their by anyone for the right amount of money.

Furthermore, quit bitching about people spamming your thread, and saying how we've destroyed it with our junk. Your Elitist, and dare I say Facist views on what should be added to this game is considered spam on an extremely higher level than any reply in this thread.

/NOT BLOODY SIGNED FOR THE LAST TIME

It really isn't that hard to fight your mirror.

Its not that bad to have a extra town that only ppl go in if they have finished the game, maybe a second mirror but this time u must take all 8 skills and fight him with your own main pro and use no second pro skils. Now thats what I would like to see, it should be a garden and not a city. more like a place to chill and NO WTB/WTS/WTT or please help, please give, please join my guild o_O.
I dont say that I dont like to help ppl there are lots of ppl that know they can ask me for help any time lol I have given away more gold weapon and gold to new players and helped them with mission that its not healty any more , its just that some time I realy want to go to a town with ppl talking about something else, not the way it looks now in lions arch, droknar or ascalon.

If ppl really want some peace and quiet isn't there the international districts?

For intelligent discussion isn't that what these forums are for? IMO the chat facilities ingame are okay but when you look at some of the threads around guildwarsguru, can you really imagine any discussion like that happening in those chat channels?

ok , im sorry for my rude atitudes , even with so bad posts on my thread , i shouldnt say suchs things . now that i have taken that out of the way.
i never said anything about inteligent chat , or elitists only town , i would like to see a town for end game , we all now after hell percipice you are teleported to droknars forge.

the only place no one can run you to is dragons lar and tombs , you have to beat mirror , like someone said it is not that hard.

but atm i belive anet didnt do it on porpuse , the same way UW and FIssure are located in temple of the ages and not in hells percipice.

the comunity aspect must be always present.

but also they are making some changes in that aspect for pvp , in the factions event , new comers now had to beat 5 times random arenas to reach team arenas ... and then win i dont know how many to reach heros ascend ... this means that you wont find there a person that got the game from the store 5 mins ago.

i never said anything about kids , imature , elitists , inteligent chat ... noobs , non noobs .. etc etc

and i never said that in the end game town there wont be quiters , non skilled , etc etc , or just elitists inteligent persons ... just a ultra hard PVE zone for people that have done everything.

to gain access to that zone is the problem ... since there are runners for everything ... another mirror might be the only way ...

/no one can be run to dragons lar.

You mean a place like Marhans Grotto?

I think the flaming may have got a little out of hand here...

What Neoteo is suggesting is not elitist in the sense that many suggestions have been (scanning back over the forums in any given time period I am sure you can find bucket loads of truly mad ideas) in that what he suggests is already built in to the game ot some extent.

If you don't agree with what he is suggesting then fine- whatever your grounds for disagreement. That does not excuse being rude however, and looking at the style of his posts I don't think he is the elitist snob some people are branding him as. Just my opinion comparing his posts to others which I *have* thought elitist.

For my 2p, I think the new HoH is designed to achieve just what Neoteo is suggesting- an area you can only play in after ascension, which in theory ought to mean only reasonably experienced players.

To get there you need to have either played for a fair while or been run- a lot. That much running would usually indicate a large gold expenditure (how much would a LBSR charge to get you all the way to HoH?), which comes either from gameplay (in which case no problem) or buying in-game money. A really helpful guild *might* do the same, but if they are good enough to run someone that far, they are probably also good enough to know it isn't a healthy idea.

So to take a different perspective, ebay'd money is more of a problem to destroying game balance than anything else, IMO.

Yeah, whenever I tire of the sheer idiocy that plagues home districts sometimes, I go to international. Usually very few people there, peaceful, nice respite.

As far as this town for the elites.... bleh. No need to feed people's already over-sized egos with a 1337-only town.

/unsigned

Not really. Most of the people that ebay large quantities of gold either want some exclusive items or FoW armor. They have no interest in actually playing the game. It's extemely unlikely you'll ever have to cover for them in a mission/quest group. It's all about the bragging rights. here isn't much to brag about in a group of eight.

I should have closed this thread as soon as I saw "newbies" in the title. Don't know why I didn't earlier. Closed.