Hello, I was just curious, I see alot of trappers in Tombs (like IWAY groups) use an axe and a shield, why do they use these? They are a R/Me so they can't have points in Tactics to actually USE the shield/axe.
Also, shields like Lengthens Bleeding/Crippling/Blinding duration on foes does that imply on Traps aswell?
Axes/Shields on Ranger Trappers?
KitsunE81
Deathqueen
Probably a hp axe like the one I found that has +25Hps on it and you could add another +30 hps. And as for the shield there's some out there that lower the % time a condition remains on you. I found one yesterday that lowers deep wound duration by 33%. You don't have to have the shield requirements to get the bonus from them or any item for that matter only when it states so like w/enchanted or w/stance or w/hexed. Nor do you have to have the weapon requirements to get the bonuses like hit points unless it states w/enchanted or w/stance or w/hexed.
And of course there will be cries of nerf nerf NERF! when people find this out because this is just yet another advantage a person gets playing a PVE character up to PVP. So many things you can use from the PVE game that a pre-made or custom made cannot have. (smile)
And of course there will be cries of nerf nerf NERF! when people find this out because this is just yet another advantage a person gets playing a PVE character up to PVP. So many things you can use from the PVE game that a pre-made or custom made cannot have. (smile)
Valerius
because their noobs... simply put
u want as much energy as possible without negative degen... hence why all trappers should weild staffs imo... i can see maybe switching to a bow for Oath Shot {E}... but other then that... nope
u want as much energy as possible without negative degen... hence why all trappers should weild staffs imo... i can see maybe switching to a bow for Oath Shot {E}... but other then that... nope
Jetdoc
1. The axe is likely the Firey Flame Spitter located outside of Serenity Temple, which gives a 10% chance of a quicker recharge, which would be nice for trappers.
2. The shield may be the +5 energy shield available outside of Frontier Gate.
That combo would give them +5 energy and 10% chance of a quicker recharge, and give them a little armor to boot. I personally don't like that combo since other focuses/staves give better bonuses, but who knows...
2. The shield may be the +5 energy shield available outside of Frontier Gate.
That combo would give them +5 energy and 10% chance of a quicker recharge, and give them a little armor to boot. I personally don't like that combo since other focuses/staves give better bonuses, but who knows...
KitsunE81
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because their noobs... simply put
u want as much energy as possible without negative degen... hence why all trappers should weild staffs imo... i can see maybe switching to a bow for Oath Shot {E}... but other then that... nope |
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Originally Posted by Jetdoc
1. The axe is likely the Firey Flame Spitter located outside of Serenity Temple, which gives a 10% chance of a quicker recharge, which would be nice for trappers.
2. The shield may be the +5 energy shield available outside of Frontier Gate. That combo would give them +5 energy and 10% chance of a quicker recharge, and give them a little armor to boot. I personally don't like that combo since other focuses/staves give better bonuses, but who knows... |
EDIT: I checked both places out, and couldn't find anything, are you sure your information is correct?
Pardoz
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1. The axe is likely the Firey Flame Spitter located outside of Serenity Temple, which gives a 10% chance of a quicker recharge, which would be nice for trappers.
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KitsunE81
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Originally Posted by Pardoz
...if the +x% recharge items worked on skills, anyway. Since they don't, I don't much see the point, myself.
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cagan
I'm sure you mean to say 'he didn't say it was for skills', in which case .... so?, we are talking about a trapper here, the flame spitter really isn't liable to help them out much since the traps aren't ever being sped up.
E Power
crippling axe hafts work with spike trap and barbed trap. for the shield, it must be something really good :P. Trappers do not need as much energy as you think, energy saves you a load.
Pardoz
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aahhh, well, he didn't say it was for spells, now did he.
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Jetdoc
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Originally Posted by Pardoz
Given that the +recharge items now explicitly state they only work on spells, instead of the old, misleading, wording about "skills", there's no point to using them for a trapper.
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There were many in this thread...
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=93087
....that were under the same impression.
Hockster
NVM, already been stated.
tafy69
Check out their pve characters with their helms hidden
KitsunE81
So, if they changed the axe with the +x% recharge to make it for spells only it's useless for a Ranger Trapper, well, what do you reckon they use then? (Seeing as it never actually worked)
Also, I've heard if you have like a shield with armor 16 (req 9 Strength) and you don't have the requirements you still get SOME of the extra armor?
Also, I've heard if you have like a shield with armor 16 (req 9 Strength) and you don't have the requirements you still get SOME of the extra armor?
Seissor
You get a tiny bonus. But all the mods you get full bonus.
Shield 16 armor req 9. strength +45 hp enchanted
with 0 strength u might get 3armor and u will definately get +45 hp enchanted
Shield 16 armor req 9. strength +45 hp enchanted
with 0 strength u might get 3armor and u will definately get +45 hp enchanted
fiery
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Hello, I was just curious, I see alot of trappers in Tombs (like IWAY groups) use an axe and a shield, why do they use these? They are a R/Me so they can't have points in Tactics to actually USE the shield/axe. |
Hell Marauder
Hmmm R/Me trappers using axe/shield, wonder if they have Illusion Weaponry on their skill bar......
mortalis doleo
they might use it to get close to enemies easilly, but thatisnt tough with a ranged weapon...
KitsunE81
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Hmmm R/Me trappers using axe/shield, wonder if they have Illusion Weaponry on their skill bar......
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Cherno
I've been progressing my ranger to start getting into trapper groups and have been looking for the ideal staff. I thought that Flint's Fleshcleaver or Gorell's Staff would probably be the best options. But now that I am looking at the new green staves, I think they are technically better are they not? Especially compared to fleshcleaver which was my decision over Gorells because of the energy boost.
It has the 15 Energy, 30 health and 10% global chance to improve casting and recharge.
If my understanding is correct, I am surprised the new green staves aren't going for a little more than they are because they seem to be the perfect staff fit for a trapper.
It has the 15 Energy, 30 health and 10% global chance to improve casting and recharge.
If my understanding is correct, I am surprised the new green staves aren't going for a little more than they are because they seem to be the perfect staff fit for a trapper.
h22akord
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its still retarted and very useless for a trap weilding an axe and shield.. even if it does duration compleltey useless..that second or more of crippling..once the condition hits it will be mend ailment by the monk.. trappers NEEDS staffs cant express that enough... i flamed a guy in my group claming to be rank 6 and blah blah...and yet he uses a fire wand..staffs only.. for the +10 energy and any other mods would be great maybe another r health or armor or recharge/casting mods.. others wont just do.
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10/10 skill recharge, speed. As for the wand, I usually alternate between a green mesmer wand that also gives 10/10 skill recharge/ speed, and a fire wand that gives +5 energy;This in effect givis me either the option of a total 20/20 skill recharge/ speed and 12 energy OR 10/10 skill recharge, speed +17 energy.
KitsunE81
Ok, I just went in an IWAY group, and now I think I know why they are using axes/shields, the minute I started hitting people I saw that I was hitting for 10/12, and also gained 5/15 health, then it all made sense, with the spirits up (Winnowing and Predatory) and the Orders of the Order Necro you do +damage with Physical Damage, the staff doesn't do physical damage, but the axe does.
Also, when you have an Axe/Shield equiped you don't have much energy, you don't need much really, specially if you have Mantra of Resolve on you, and when Warriors melee you while you're trapping you lose LOADS of energy, (Same goes for Energy Denial) as soon as this happens you can relocate and equip a staff, so you get the +energy of the staff.
Also, when you have an Axe/Shield equiped you don't have much energy, you don't need much really, specially if you have Mantra of Resolve on you, and when Warriors melee you while you're trapping you lose LOADS of energy, (Same goes for Energy Denial) as soon as this happens you can relocate and equip a staff, so you get the +energy of the staff.
Valerius
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I've been progressing my ranger to start getting into trapper groups and have been looking for the ideal staff. I thought that Flint's Fleshcleaver or Gorell's Staff would probably be the best options. But now that I am looking at the new green staves, I think they are technically better are they not? Especially compared to fleshcleaver which was my decision over Gorells because of the energy boost. It has the 15 Energy, 30 health and 10% global chance to improve casting and recharge. If my understanding is correct, I am surprised the new green staves aren't going for a little more than they are because they seem to be the perfect staff fit for a trapper. |
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Actually a wand is better then a staff in my opinion. It's just not a versatile as a wand and focus. Im ranked 6 myself and often use a fire wand. What happens is that if your a r/me, you have put at least 9 points in inspiration for mantra of resolve as well as energy bonus requirment, you will get a total of 12 energy from the mesmer focus, I use specifically a green one that has req 9 in inspiration +12 energy 10/10 skill recharge, speed. As for the wand, I usually alternate between a green mesmer wand that also gives 10/10 skill recharge/ speed, and a fire wand that gives +5 energy;This in effect givis me either the option of a total 20/20 skill recharge/ speed and 12 energy OR 10/10 skill recharge, speed +17 energy. |
KitsunE81
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Originally Posted by Valerius
ermm... 10% global chance to improve casting and recharge is for spells only... not skills... which are wat traps are...
as i just said... 10% global chance to improve casting and recharge is for spells only... and btw... u only need 8 points into Inspiration for Mantra of Resolve... at 8 ur losing 4 energy and at 9 ur losing 4 energy... |
jaibas17
well, ppl use staes becuse they dont need attributes to get the 15 energy from the pvp insightful staff, so thats te reason they prefer staves, as for sword/shield, I got no idea